hibs.net Messageboard

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 64

Thread: Andy Halliday

  1. #1
    Testimonial Due TamHibs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Fauldhouse
    Age
    36
    Posts
    2,647
    Gamer IDs

    Gamertag: TamHibs PSN ID: tamhibs22

    Andy Halliday

    I see his Red has been downgraded to a yellow.

    Good to know you can kick out & escape a red card


  2. Log in to remove the advert

  3. #2
    @hibs.net private member SteveHFC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Age
    31
    Posts
    22,168
    ****ing ridiculous.

    Nice to see the SFA bending their rules again to help them.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16

  4. #3
    @hibs.net private member Scouse Hibee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Age
    56
    Posts
    22,365
    I can only assume the red was given for the supposed headbutt then?

  5. #4
    While Fyvie's reaction was poor, it was still a red card.

    Kicking out reduced to a yellow but Fyvie gets a two game ban

  6. #5
    @hibs.net private member Bostonhibby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    lincolnshire
    Age
    64
    Posts
    24,139
    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I can only assume the red was given for the supposed headbutt then?
    Yeah; kicking an opponent is fine.

    "I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"

    Sir Matt Busby

  7. #6
    Testimonial Due Franck Stanton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Dunbar
    Age
    64
    Posts
    3,584
    Surprised he even got a yellow to be honest - don't get me wrong - he deserved one, but, after all, he does play for THE Rangers and they usually get away with this sort of offence.

  8. #7
    @hibs.net private member Col2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Age
    53
    Posts
    6,044
    Superb. So he kicks out, raising his head, acts aggressively and gets a yellow.

    Meanwhile our fans are abused, various sectarian songs clear to everyone and nothing happens.

    And our guy gets a two match ban.

    Yup seems fair.

  9. #8
    Testimonial Due TamHibs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Fauldhouse
    Age
    36
    Posts
    2,647
    Gamer IDs

    Gamertag: TamHibs PSN ID: tamhibs22
    It honestly beggars belief.

    Should he have been sent off for a headbutt? No. Should he have been sent off for kicking out at an opponent off the ball & then showing aggressive behaviour? Yes.

  10. #9
    Left by mutual consent!
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    5,029
    He's anyway

  11. #10
    Coaching Staff Thecat23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    45
    Posts
    19,713
    If the red was for the head butt then it's 100% the correct decision. If he's not seen the kick then he can't send him off. But surely the tv evidence is enough to punish him for that?

  12. #11
    Coaching Staff Thecat23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    45
    Posts
    19,713
    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Superb. So he kicks out, raising his head, acts aggressively and gets a yellow.

    Meanwhile our fans are abused, various sectarian songs clear to everyone and nothing happens.

    And our guy gets a two match ban.

    Yup seems fair.
    Fyvie deserves the ban. He cheated and we don't need that crap. I agree with you about the fans though, disgrace they get away with what they do. I hope we pelt them with coins and eggs at ER because surely we can do that without expecting to be punished!

  13. #12
    @hibs.net private member Kojock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Dalkeith
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,550
    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    If the red was for the head butt then it's 100% the correct decision. If he's not seen the kick then he can't send him off. But surely the tv evidence is enough to punish him for that?
    If it was for the "headbutt" then why is it downgraded to a yellow? Surely a red or nothing.

  14. #13
    Testimonial Due kaimendhibs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Kaimend
    Age
    60
    Posts
    4,500
    Absolutely no surprise😡

  15. #14
    @hibs.net private member Jim44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Age
    76
    Posts
    22,159
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by Kojock View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    If it was for the "headbutt" then why is it downgraded to a yellow? Surely a red or nothing.
    The only possible explanation (wrong and unjustifiable) is that Fyvie's histrionics have strangely mitigated the actions of the Hun in the eyes of the compliance officer and his colleagues. He would be hard put to, to explain the decision, given the cast iron evidence on video. Am I right in thinking that he is not answerable to anyone and not duty bound to explain his fiction?

  16. #15
    @hibs.net private member Bishop Hibee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Leith Links
    Age
    57
    Posts
    8,218
    Premiership and Championship games which are all filmed should be referred to a review panel post match to check yellow and red cards in conjunction with the officials report.

    Cards can then be rescinded or upgraded and incidents not seen by the officials dealt with.

    Simple really you would think. Happens in Aussie rules, rugby league and NFL I think.
    "Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire

  17. #16
    @hibs.net private member lapsedhibee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    20,971
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    The only possible explanation (wrong and unjustifiable) is that Fyvie's histrionics have strangely mitigated the actions of the Hun
    Yes, Fyvie's simulation caused the hun to kick at him. In hun/GFAworld, the future can determine the past. Nothing to see there, move on.

  18. #17
    @hibs.net private member J-C's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Age
    65
    Posts
    31,118
    Quote Originally Posted by Kojock View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    If it was for the "headbutt" then why is it downgraded to a yellow? Surely a red or nothing.

    Although no headbutt, it may have been yellow for his aggressive manner, or even for the kick itself, we need to see the refs report and the SFA official statement regarding this.

  19. #18
    Coaching Staff Thecat23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    45
    Posts
    19,713
    Quote Originally Posted by Kojock View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    If it was for the "headbutt" then why is it downgraded to a yellow? Surely a red or nothing.
    Confronting Fyvie in an aggressive manner? Or just for barging him. It's not a red. The kick is though. Anyone who thinks that the head butt was red is wrong.

  20. #19
    @hibs.net private member Jim44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Age
    76
    Posts
    22,159
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Confronting Fyvie in an aggressive manner? Or just for barging him. It's not a red. The kick is though. Anyone who thinks that the head butt was red is wrong.
    Surely if you aim a punch, a kick or a head butt towards an opponent, even if you miss, it is violent conduct and a red card.

  21. #20
    @hibs.net private member J-C's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Age
    65
    Posts
    31,118
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Surely if you aim a punch, a kick or a head butt towards an opponent, even if you miss, it is violent conduct and a red card.
    Yes he aimed a kick and for that it was a red but not for standing in an aggressive manner in front of Fyvie, you'll only get a yellow for that, remember he was red carded for a headbutt which didn't happen.

  22. #21
    @hibs.net private member SouthMoroccoStu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Easter Road
    Age
    39
    Posts
    4,980
    Quote Originally Posted by kaimendhibs View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Absolutely no surprise
    Sadly not

    It does put pay to the argument that Fyvie didn't have to play act on the head butt (although it was wrong) - there was no chance Halliday would get sent off for a kick out.

    We're still waiting on Waghorn's ban for the 2-1 game at Easter Road

    That was conveniently forgotten about

    Anyone who truly believes the Refs and SFA/SPFL arent out to help The Rangers at every and any turn needs a reality check
    Last edited by SouthMoroccoStu; 07-01-2016 at 03:54 PM.

  23. #22
    Coaching Staff Thecat23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Age
    45
    Posts
    19,713
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Surely if you aim a punch, a kick or a head butt towards an opponent, even if you miss, it is violent conduct and a red card.
    He didn't even move his head though. As I said the kick out for me was a red but the ref hasn't seen that by sounds of it. He was rightly cleared of the head butt though.

  24. #23
    2 deliberate hand balls, kicks out at a player and barges into him, no red card. Only in Glasgow.

  25. #24
    @hibs.net private member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Posts
    12,991
    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    He didn't even move his head though. As I said the kick out for me was a red but the ref hasn't seen that by sounds of it. He was rightly cleared of the head butt though.
    Cat , as the kick was clearly caught on camera - if the ref didn't see it - shouldn't he get a retrospective red for it through TV evidence ? Or are they treating it as a yellow offence ?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  26. #25
    @hibs.net private member Stevie Reid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Prestonfield
    Age
    46
    Posts
    10,176
    Don't have any issue with this, or Fyvie's ban.

  27. #26
    Testimonial Due kaimendhibs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Kaimend
    Age
    60
    Posts
    4,500
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Sadly not

    It does put pay to the argument that Fyvie didn't have to play act on the head butt (although it was wrong) - there was no chance Halliday would get sent off for a kick out.

    We're still waiting on Waghorn's ban for the 2-1 game at Easter Road

    That was conveniently forgotten about

    Anyone who truly believes the Refs and SFA/SPFL are out to help The Rangers at every and any turn needs a reality check
    Hope you meant to write ARENT out to help the Rangers

  28. #27
    @hibs.net private member SouthMoroccoStu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Easter Road
    Age
    39
    Posts
    4,980
    Quote Originally Posted by kaimendhibs View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Hope you meant to write ARENT out to help the Rangers
    Oops - the rant anger took over

  29. #28
    First Team Breakthrough
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    353
    Irrespective of the personalities involved in this case I find the rule regarding simulation to be lacking in fairness.
    Now had the referee spotted Fyvie's simulation he would have been given a yellow card. However it could be argued that because of the referee's failure in this respect the player receives a heavier punishment (2 game ban).
    I agree that this may be construed as harsh criticism of the referee in a situation where he has been conned but nevertheless it means that there are 2 levels of punishment for the same offence, the implementation of which is determined by the ref's competence.

  30. #29
    Testimonial Due GreenOnions's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    1,821
    Halliday is a journeyman pro who wouldn't get in the Hibs team and, if The Rangers get promotion, will probably be one of the guys they look to improve upon. He wasn't headbutted so the review decision is correct.

  31. #30
    @hibs.net private member R'Albin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,478
    Gamer IDs

    Gamertag: Razza96
    Even if they have reversed the decision based on the fact the referee sent him off for the Fyvie headbutt, surely the kick out should be treated as a separate incident and Halliday should be retrospectively punished for that?

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
hibs.net ©2020 All Rights Reserved
- Mobile Leaderboard (320x50) - Leaderboard (728x90)