Stubbs saying Fringe players can leave in January Window

[Ronniekirk]

Stanton and Handling both mentioned again In evening News Article .Stubbs saying he won't stand in thier way if they want to pursue first team football elsewhere.
IGuess no real surprise there ,although with Danny s injury he hasn't been in a poisition to fight for a first team place .
Foster not mentioned ,but he is bound to be frustrated at lack of game time ,but you can't argue Hanlon Fontaine and McGregor are the first picks ,and to date Gray has managed to avoid the recurring hamstrings that occurred last season .
We know Eckersley is going perhaps without playing for the first team ,and
Feruz could well invoke his clause to cut short loan deal, given lack of Gane time to date .
Anier is another player that needs to either be given an opportunity to show what he can do in first team ,or see if United will take him back even if just to loan out to someone else ,although Stubbs has gone on record as saying he thinks he could do a job for us next year ,so he must be impressing him in Trainining .
Farid is clearly not yet able to play for any length of time and you would think that the back room team would have formed a view by now on the % age chances of him making a recovery to the point where he can play a part in team going forward
We will also get tested with bids for some players possibly

So while Stubbs is saying there may only be one or two coming in ,this could change if some of the above happens
Who else have we been linked with ,.Michael McGovern goalkeeper from Hamilton ,more likely to be a Pre Contract deal, if it's going to happen as out of contract next summer .

[Brightside]

Expect Feruz and Stanton to go. Handling prob not as he is still in recovery. I'd put Forster on loan to give him game time...im sure plenty teams in our league would take him. Anier is here for the year. I think Eck will be offered a deal for rest of year.

[Thecat23]

Stanton defo going. As you say underscore Feruz I can't see staying either! Forster is a tough one. He's a good defender and good cover but wants first team footy, I think he may go for good come the summer.

[Andy74]

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Stanton and Handling both mentioned again In evening News Article .Stubbs saying he won't stand in thier way if they want to pursue first team football elsewhere.
IGuess no real surprise there ,although with Danny s injury he hasn't been in a poisition to fight for a first team place .
Foster not mentioned ,but he is bound to be frustrated at lack of game time ,but you can't argue Hanlon Fontaine and McGregor are the first picks ,and to date Gray has managed to avoid the recurring hamstrings that occurred last season .
We know Eckersley is going perhaps without playing for the first team ,and
Feruz could well invoke his clause to cut short loan deal, given lack of Gane time to date .
Anier is another player that needs to either be given an opportunity to show what he can do in first team ,or see if United will take him back even if just to loan out to someone else ,although Stubbs has gone on record as saying he thinks he could do a job for us next year ,so he must be impressing him in Trainining .
Farid is clearly not yet able to play for any length of time and you would think that the back room team would have formed a view by now on the % age chances of him making a recovery to the point where he can play a part in team going forward
We will also get tested with bids for some players possibly

So while Stubbs is saying there may only be one or two coming in ,this could change if some of the above happens
Who else have we been linked with ,.Michael McGovern goalkeeper from Hamilton ,more likely to be a Pre Contract deal, if it's going to happen as out of contract next summer .

Eckersley I wouldn't be surprised to see staying for the season. A recent interview with him suggested he would be willing to look at dealying his US move.

[staunchhibby]

Sam wanted to go in the last window but i think hibs were being awkward.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Its a shame for the likes of Forster as he has been unlucky with injuries ... I would keep a hold of him because there is a decent defender in there if he could just stay fit ..... but I cant help thinking patience is probably wearing thin at ER with his seemingly never ending love affair with the treatment table.

You could say the same for Handling, though even when fit he never managed to establish himself in some pretty average first teams. As for Sam Stanton, he is obviously talented but he has been on the fringes for so long now its hard to see him making it with us, perhaps a move would kick start his career ... look at how its went for Spoony since he left.

I would hate to ever see Hibs become a club that bins players with long term injuries. But on the other hand players cant be allowed to stick around the club for season after season missing 1 out of every 3 games through injury. I also don't think we can afford to have guys sitting around the fringes of the first team into their early 20s .... by the time a player is 22 or 23 and has been at the club for 10 years, if he hasn't made a reasonable dent its unlikely he ever will .... I have a feeling Hibs may soon start to take a harder line on that.

[Mikey09]

Forster will be going nowhere!

[woodythehibee]

Forster has the makings to be a future Hibs captain. Cannot see him leaving permanently.

[Smartie]

Forster has been shockingly unlucky.

He's a very good player and did well to re-establish himself in the side towards the end of last season before injuring himself again.

Whilst it's hard to argue that Fontaine, Hanlon and McGregor are our first choice centre-halves, he's not far behind them (if at all).

It would be a very dangerous game to let him go - that would leave us unable to play 3 at the back if any of the other 3 got injured. I'd imagine McGregor is our first choice reserve for Gray as well so allowing Forster to leave - even on loan - would be madness imo. Had Forster and Boyle been fit for last year's play-off it might have ended very differently. We gave McCall credit for sussing our tactics last year but by losing those players we lost the option to mix it up with the 3 at the back which worked out well for us at times last season.

We have decent cover in our squad for a reason.

[jdships]

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Forster has the makings to be a future Hibs captain. Cannot see him leaving permanently.

That's exactly what I have heard from more than one source

[HappyHanlon]

I'm expecting Carmichael to leave during the window - likely on loan.

[bigwheel]

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Forster has the makings to be a future Hibs captain. Cannot see him leaving permanently.

Whilst he has some strong attributes , his lack of mobility and pace will stop that happening . If Stubbs stays I'd be surprised to see him here next summer


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[Andy74]

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Sam wanted to go in the last window but i think hibs were being awkward.

I think the opposite is more likely - Hibs clearly want the likes of Stanton to look elsewhere. I doubt we would have been saying they should go and then not allow them to do so. He hasn't been involved so no reason for us to be stopping anything.

[bigwheel]

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Sam wanted to go in the last window but i think hibs were being awkward.

Well. As they were touting him to different clubs , that would surprise me


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[scoopyboy]

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I think the opposite is more likely - Hibs clearly want the likes of Stanton to look elsewhere. I doubt we would have been saying they should go and then not allow them to do so. He hasn't been involved so no reason for us to be stopping anything.

Hibs weren't being awkward with Sam in the slightest.

He was close to going to Dundee Utd and something happened at their end is my understanding.

When I was first told about it Anier was mentioned in an exchange, I don't know if it was a loan exchange or a permanent move.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Whilst he has some strong attributes , his lack of mobility and pace will stop that happening . If Stubbs stays I'd be surprised to see him here next summer


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Central defenders do not need to be quick if they can read the game well and play around it. You see examples of this all around the world every week yet some people still believe otherwise. Rob Jones captained Hibs to a league cup win and was extremely slow. Mertesacker over 100 caps for Germany and a world cup win. Daniel Van Buyten over 250 games for Bayern Munich winning a champions league and 4 league titles. Puyol, Koeman, Terry, Vidic etc. the list goes on.

[bigwheel]

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Central defenders do not need to be quick if they can read the game well and play around it. You see examples of this all around the world every week yet some people still believe otherwise. Rob Jones captained Hibs to a league cup win and was extremely slow. Mertesacker over 100 caps for Germany and a world cup win. Daniel Van Buyten over 250 games for Bayern Munich winning a champions league and 4 league titles. Puyol, Koeman, Terry, Vidic etc. the list goes on.

Those are fair points ...it's his lack of mobility that is harder to replace with game awareness - don't think Stubbs rates him that much - other managers might want to work with the positive assets he has ...


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[KeithTheHibby]

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Forster has the makings to be a future Hibs captain. Cannot see him leaving permanently.

I think he is a very good centre half however how long does he hang about for? Both Fontaine and more recently McGregor have joined the club and have moved ahead of Forster in the pecking order.
He has been unlucky with injuries, granted however given the last couple of years perhaps he sees his future away from the club.

[easty]

I'd like to keep Forster long term, though it might not be a bad thing for him to get a short term loan somewhere. Can't be doing his development any good not playing first team football.

The others, Feruz, Carmichael, Stanton, Handling, Eckersley, Anier - I'd not be disappointed to see all/some of them leave and be replaced.

[jacomo]

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I think the opposite is more likely - Hibs clearly want the likes of Stanton to look elsewhere. I doubt we would have been saying they should go and then not allow them to do so. He hasn't been involved so no reason for us to be stopping anything.

Do you think the protracted Scott Allan saga and Danny Handlings injury complicated the issue? Sam Stanton got some game time early in the season as Hibs were suddenly short in midfield.

I agree that he now looks unlikely to break through into a regular starter.

[Michael]

Really hope we hang onto Forster. Not fussed about the rest.

[Bishop Hibee]

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I'm expecting Carmichael to leave during the window - likely on loan.

Out of all our summer signings he has turned out to be our strangest. I assumed he was signed as a winger but apparently prefers playing infield where he has no chance of getting a game.

Stanton, Eckersley, Feruz and Anier to go. I hope Malonga stays until the end of the season. Maybe bring 1 or 2 in on loan.

[Big_Franck]

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Really hope we hang onto Forster. Not fussed about the rest.

Pretty much sums it up for me. Although I don't think we've seen enough of the likes of Carmichael to really form an opinion.

[jacomo]

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Out of all our summer signings he has turned out to be our strangest. I assumed he was signed as a winger but apparently prefers playing infield where he has no chance of getting a game.

Stanton, Eckersley, Feruz and Anier to go. I hope Malonga stays until the end of the season. Maybe bring 1 or 2 in on loan.

I hope Malonga stays a lot longer than that.

[snooky]

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I'm expecting Carmichael to leave during the window - likely on loan.

Alistair Carmichael? Can I pick the window he's leaving through?

[southern hibby]

Watched Handling against Wigan and was good, don't know why but I believe with a few good players around him he will flourish.

However if I was him id ask to go on loan ( when fit) to get more game time, really believe if we let him go we will regret it .

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[StevieBoyKdy]

I'd say out the door permanently Stubbs is referring to. Feruz, Stanton, Harris, reguero, Carmichael, anier. 6 players no where near the first team. Would rather they were replaced with 2 bodies who would push for a start. Forster imo is a captain in waiting, but it's down to him if he wants to sign a new contract, with 3 centre Halfs ahead of him he might think it's time to move on. I really hope not.

[Smartie]

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Watched Handling against Wigan and was good, don't know why but I believe with a few good players around him he will flourish.

However if I was him id ask to go on loan ( when fit) to get more game time, really believe if we let him go we will regret it .

GGTTH

I can never make my mind up about Handling.

I feel sorry for him - his injury came at a terrible time for him. Even if he wasn't to play here he'd have benefitted from playing a lot of first team football - somewhere, anywhere. We had a lot of our best performances with him in the side last season although I have felt that he's flattered to deceive at times.

I can't really see him ever being much more than a handy squad player although we will always need those.

It is hard to see him as the kind of player who would go elsewhere and we'd live to regret it as he cranked it up a notch (Vaz Te, Clayton Donaldson, Steven Dobbie Richie Towell).

I could see us regretting losing Forster though as he's looked excellent at times and it has been bad luck with injuries rather than anything else that has stopped him becoming a first pick for us.

[Ozyhibby]

This is going to be a massive January window for us. Hopefully Stubbs has the funds to get in the quality we need.


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[bigwheel]

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This is going to be a massive January window for us. Hopefully Stubbs has the funds to get in the quality we need.


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Am I the only one who thinks we have enough as is?? I'd be happy for no change...think we have enough to win, as long as we keep performing..maybe one centre forward - depending of Farid and Anier's fitness