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    Take a bow Ian Murray

    Last year's Dumbarton side played with 10 behind the ball and fouled all through the games we played. This year's St Mirren team are exactly the same.
    Grim stuff from a manager who spent the last 5 mins today looking at his watch while the thugs on the pitch played anti football.
    Not a future Hibs manager in a million years!


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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Last year's Dumbarton side played with 10 behind the ball and fouled all through the games we played. This year's St Mirren team are exactly the same.
    Grim stuff from a manager who spent the last 5 mins today looking at his watch while the thugs on the pitch played anti football.
    Not a future Hibs manager in a million years!
    Tend to agree actually thought they should have had a bit more belief they could have nicked a winner.

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    I thought they had 2 very disciplined banks of 4 but always left 2 up top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Tend to agree actually thought they should have had a bit more belief they could have nicked a winner.
    Got his tactics spot on. They took the lead after all and I reckon he would have taken a point before the game. Underestimated as a manager. Got some impressive results with limited resources at Dumbarton. Still to develop in his role as a full time manager at the saints. Too early to be quoted or otherwise for the hibs job I think.

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    Yeah, poor show playing for a point and getting it away from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    I thought they had 2 very disciplined banks of 4 but always left 2 up top.
    At times it was a back eight, but no matter how many people decry it,it had us stumped.

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    Op harsh, we were poor and I thought st mirren were worth a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookert View Post
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    Op harsh, we were poor and I thought st mirren were worth a point.
    You must have watched a different game from me

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    Looks like I am in a minority then it seems.

    If some think setting out for a point and getting it through sitting behind the ball and fouling is great management then each to their own but I could not disagree more.

    It's certainly not what I want to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookert View Post
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    Op harsh, we were poor and I thought st mirren were worth a point.
    fair assessment, st Mirren and ian murray done their job today and we weren't good enough to beat them, we need a plan b, but our plan b up front are all injured.

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    Looks like I am in a minority then it seems.

    If some think setting out for a point and getting it through sitting behind the ball and fouling is great management then each to their own but I could not disagree more.

    It's certainly not what I want to watch.
    These teams are playing to their strengths though. They know that if they come out and attack and play an expansive game against us then they'll most likely lose by several goals.

    It's terrible to watch but you can't really blame the players and managers for playing that way.

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    Yeah, poor show playing for a point and getting it away from home.
    You would like to see Hibs playing like that???

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    We couldn't break them down. Only time we got a decent ball across goal at 1-1 Henderson squaffed. Final ball was really poor today and maybe Cummings and Boyle should have got in better positions.

    Stevenson and Gray didn't play badly and had great energy to constantly be a wide option but we shouldn't expect them to have precision crossing, they are defenders first and foremost.

    MotM for me today was big Marv, no attacking player deserved more than a 5-6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    These teams are playing to their strengths though. They know that if they come out and attack and play an expansive game against us then they'll most likely lose by several goals.

    It's terrible to watch but you can't really blame the players and managers for playing that way.
    "These teams" what sets St Mirren apart from some of these teams is that I'm sure st Mirren hope to be at least in the play offs this season. That won't happen if they play like that.

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    "These teams" what sets St Mirren apart from some of these teams is that I'm sure st Mirren hope to be at least in the play offs this season. That won't happen if they play like that.
    The current St Mirren side isn't good enough to play an attacking style of football against us and come away with a victory.

    That was my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    The current St Mirren side isn't good enough to play an attacking style of football against us and come away with a victory.

    That was my point.
    they didn't play attacking football against Morton or Raith either.

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    Perhaps, we need to stop complaining about teams sitting in at ER. I recall quite a few Hibbies saying they would be happy with a point at Ibrox not too long ago. Had we got one there we would not have complained.

    Also, if St. Mirren, who it must be remembered scored, got a point then they deserved it. Not their fault we were not good enough to break them down more than once.

    We got a point because we did not deserve 3 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    Yeah, poor show playing for a point and getting it away from home.
    That's not the point though. Depends what you consider "playing" means. It's the manner by which that point was "won" - cheating - make no mistake time wasting is a form of cheating.

    That's why a strong referee will take action early doors when he knows it's happening. Unfortunately, most referees seem to tolerate it, and basically turn a blind eye to it, or don't take action until the game is almost over. Too late by then of course as it's mission accomplished.

    Add in every spoiling tactic, fouling, play acting, and trying to con the referee near the end into awarding a penalty, the yes you got that part right, it was indeed a very "poor show".

    I just cannot understand how anyone who watched that today can defend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emerald green View Post
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    That's not the point though. Depends what you consider "playing" means. It's the manner by which that point was "won" - cheating - make no mistake time wasting is a form of cheating.

    That's why a strong referee will take action early doors when he knows it's happening. Unfortunately, most referees seem to tolerate it, and basically turn a blind eye to it, or don't take action until the game is almost over. Too late by then of course as it's mission accomplished.

    Add in every spoiling tactic, fouling, play acting, and trying to con the referee near the end into awarding a penalty, the yes you got that part right, it was indeed a very "poor show".

    I just cannot understand how anyone who watched that today can defend it.
    Completely agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    You would like to see Hibs playing like that???
    Where did I say that???

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    I don't want to see my team play that kind of football.

    Sorry Murray but you're no longer my pick for next Hibs manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Completely agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    You would like to see Hibs playing like that???
    I don't think he even suggested that. Just stating what looks like a valid point. They came for a draw and got it.

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    St Mirren are ****ing rank. Bunch of cloggers, and that's being kind.
    Agreed. Seen them a few times this season and they are very average. Problem is Hibs did not have the quality to break them down. St M were not our problem today, Hibs were just not smart enough to find the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    Last year's Dumbarton side played with 10 behind the ball and fouled all through the games we played. This year's St Mirren team are exactly the same.
    Grim stuff from a manager who spent the last 5 mins today looking at his watch while the thugs on the pitch played anti football.
    Not a future Hibs manager in a million years!
    there results to date have not been great. To come to our place and get a point is a good result, much like us getting a point at ibrox would be. We are kidding ourselves if we think teams home or away are going to play the way we want them to. Their keeper also had next to nothing to do all game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion Hibs View Post
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    there results to date have not been great. To come to our place and get a point is a good result, much like us getting a point at ibrox would be. We are kidding ourselves if we think teams home or away are going to play the way we want them to. Their keeper also had next to nothing to do all game.
    I think the problem might have been with St Mirren looking to get into the play offs and just relegated we might have actually watched a proper game of football today sadly that wasn't to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion Hibs View Post
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    there results to date have not been great. To come to our place and get a point is a good result, much like us getting a point at ibrox would be. We are kidding ourselves if we think teams home or away are going to play the way we want them to. Their keeper also had next to nothing to do all game.



    That is the most worrying point in my opinion. Don't think he had a difficult save to make in the entire game.

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    That is the most worrying point in my opinion. Don't think he had a difficult save to make in the entire game.
    If we want to get promoted we need to work this one out. I don't know of any team in any league that was won the title without being able to break down teams that sit in and defend. Realistically we are not used to being on this end of it, but it is part and parcel of being a team pushing to win the league. I am pretty such it will be very familiar ground for the Rangers. FWIW I thought St Mirren were worth there point, they came with a plan, got the first goal and took away a good point.

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    Looks like I am in a minority then it seems.

    If some think setting out for a point and getting it through sitting behind the ball and fouling is great management then each to their own but I could not disagree more.

    It's certainly not what I want to watch.
    So if we did that at Ibrox or Parkhead and got a point u would be disappointed?

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