Ben Williams

[Hibby_G]

Some rumours saying we might get him back... Would you take him back??

[Bostonhibby]

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Some rumours saying we might get him back... Would you take him back??

I would, liked him. I think he started to get disillusioned when he found himself having to deal with TB and Marsalla in particular.

[Jack]

[Hibby_G]

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I would, liked him. I think he started to get disillusioned when he found himself having to deal with TB and Marsalla in particular.

Would Take him back Too think he would be a decent keeper under stubbs

[DH1875]

Would be happy with that.

[iwasthere1972]

I think his form dipped as soon as the Butcher became manager and instructed him to kick the ball upfield at every opportunity. Before that I thought that he was alright.

Not fussed either way.

[Diclonius]

Didn't he leave because he didn't get on with Marsella?

I'd take him back. Our best keeper in years.

[we are hibs]

The Williams from August 2012-November 2013 yes, the Williams from November 2013 - may 2014 then no. Great shot stopper but like Oxley, not great at coming out for crosses

[StevieC]

As said on the transfer thread .. I wouldn't be keen on taking back any players that were part of that team that got us relegated under Butcher.

[scoopyboy]

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The Williams from August 2012-November 2013 yes, the Williams from November 2013 - may 2014 then no. Great shot stopper but like Oxley, not great at coming out for crosses

Your dates are virtually the same as the Butcher era.

[bingo70]

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As said on the transfer thread .. I wouldn't be keen on taking back any players that were part of that team that got us relegated under Butcher.

Don't see why not, there's plenty examples of good players being relegated. Hanlon and Stevenson are still good members of the squad despite relegation.

[3pm]

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I think his form dipped as soon as the Butcher became manager and instructed him to kick the ball upfield at every opportunity. Before that I thought that he was alright.

Not fussed either way.

Don't forget being stripped of the captaincy wouldn't have helped his mindset.

[StevieC]

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Don't see why not, there's plenty examples of good players being relegated. Hanlon and Stevenson are still good members of the squad despite relegation.

I did say "taking back" so that's not a slight on players that stayed with us and battled in the Championship. Ben chose to leave and head down south. He then had 2 potential deals fall through and ended up on a temporary contract and second choice to a youth keeper on loan from Sunderland. It seems like a move would benefit Ben more than it would Hibs, so I'd expect Stubbs to be setting his sights a bit higher.

Personally, I rarely think it's a good idea to bring players back.

[Scottie]

No thanks as we need to be progressively looking to the future not behind us.

I trust AS will have a suitable goalie lined up for the upcoming season. Better options out there surely.

[3pm]

If you look through the tweets, it said he gave the club an 'open letter' to send to the fans but wasn't published.

Poor if true.

[O'Rourke3]

Generally don't look back. IMHO Ben's form was already poor before the Butcher era. The keeper that started that season was not the same keeper that finished the previous one. Undoubtedly the introduction of SM didn't help. By far and a way the best shot stopper we have had in years but Mark Oxley is a better all round goalie and I'm not Oxley's greatest fan.
We should have someone new of whom we have no preconceptions. While generally the support is better at home I still fear the howls of I told you he was pish -with small errors. New season - new team.

[Pretty Boy]

Wouldn't be against Williams coming back. Nowhere near as good as some make out but solid enough.

[Michael]

Oxley was better. Has his flaws, but better than Williams.

[GreenCastle]

It's hard to fully compare Ox and Williams.

Williams played under a terrible manager in a struggling team.

Ox - better manager and team winning more than losing.

Both struggled with crosses.

Both were pretty solid shot stoppers - Williams but better.

Ox was better with ball at feet - playing out from back.

Both vocal and spoke with the defence.

Ox less experience and younger at 24 compared to Williams 32.

When Williams came in I think he looked better as previous keepers were that bad. I don't remember Ox making any serious blunders last season...he wasn't perfect but seemed steady enough and good for the changing room.

I wouldn't be against him coming back - would be interested to hear from Bradford fans how his form was and why he isn't staying there longer ?

[Caversham Green]

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If you look through the tweets, it said he gave the club an 'open letter' to send to the fans but wasn't published.

Poor if true.

Depends what was in it. If it was simply 'Goodbye and thanks for all the pish' then yes, that's poor but if it was in any way critical of the three stooges (Moe, Terry and Burly) or anyone else at the club then they wouldn't have been able to publish it. Confidentiality agreements run both ways.

Anyway there are plenty of other media Ben could have used for the letter.

[blackpoolhibs]

Very average keeper but a decent shot stopper who's quite poor on crosses.

[JimBHibees]

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Very average keeper but a decent shot stopper who's quite poor on crosses.

Agree Celtic cup final springs to mind.

[Sergey]

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Some rumours saying we might get him back... Would you take him back??

Those supposed rumours aren't doing the rounds with the Barnet supporters that I know.

He's first name on their team sheet and isn't going anywhere.

Just relaying a conversation I had a moment ago with folks who would most likely know.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Those supposed rumours aren't doing the rounds with the Barnet supporters that I know.

He's first name on their team sheet and isn't going anywhere.

Just relaying a conversation I had a moment ago with folks who would most likely know.

Are you on about Graham Stack?

[Nando™]

So I guess these folk that don't look back also don't want Griffiths back

[Hibby_G]

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Very average keeper but a decent shot stopper who's quite poor on crosses.

Also Saved 2 pens against Aberdeen one in the cup and one in the league

[leggeto]

Please be true,a safe goalie

[liamh2202]

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Very average keeper but a decent shot stopper who's quite poor on crosses.

Yeh think we should either aim higher or sign oxley

[Thecat23]

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Very average keeper but a decent shot stopper who's quite poor on crosses.

He is far better at crosses than Oxley. Better shot stopper than Oxley as well. No brainer tbh if he's willing to come back. In this league he will find it far easier imo.

[Green Fish]

He saved alot of pens!!