Was having a wee looks at this earlier and was surprised where some of the managers placed in win %
For example, how high PF was considering the stick he got, and that Calderwood was higher than Jim Duffy. Feel bad that Franck is bottom, but taking him out, those next 3 are horrible horrible football managers
Alan Stubbs 56.76%
Tony Mowbray 48.15%
Alex Mcleish 46.95%
John Collins 42.59%
Bobby Williamson 36.56%
Pat Fenlon 35.63%
John Hughes 35.19%
Alex Miller 34.88%
Mixu Paatelainen 30.65%
Colin Calderwood 24.49%
Jim Duffy 20.83%
Terry Butcher 20.69%
Franck Sauzee 6.67%
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Thread: Managers win % since Alex Miller
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10-06-2015 02:41 PM #1
Managers win % since Alex Miller
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10-06-2015 02:43 PM #2Elephant StoneLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-06-2015 02:54 PM #3
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Pat did ok, not a great job but not a terrible one either. He did his best and I will always be grateful for that. We all know how they ended but at the end of the day he did ok in the league and got us to two cup finals in a row.
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10-06-2015 02:57 PM #4
Let's not forget pat had Leigh griffiths! Without him we would of really struggled. I get he was the one that signed him etc etc
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10-06-2015 03:14 PM #5
And some say that JC was a crap manager for us...
Anyway I'm prepared to excuse Sauzee's record as he was untried and moved from the team to the dugout however as for Butcher...the worst manager I've ever witnessed in charge of my team.
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10-06-2015 03:15 PM #6
Bobby Williamson also had a decent record despite having to get rid of the majority of our best players and basically took over a relegation threatened team.
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10-06-2015 03:20 PM #7hfc rdLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It was Calderclown that signed him.
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10-06-2015 03:22 PM #8
So Tony Mowbray has the best stats as his were all in the top division. What a good team we had then.
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10-06-2015 03:26 PM #9
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How is Mixu so low? We were always top 6 under him I think.
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10-06-2015 03:35 PM #11
It also shows that last 2 times we've been relegated the percentage around 20 mark, Duffy and Butcher, how the hell can any manager only get 20% win ratio
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10-06-2015 03:46 PM #12
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10-06-2015 04:52 PM #13
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I didn't think I'd ever dislike a manager as much as Jim Duffy...Butcher proved me wrong though
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10-06-2015 05:17 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think it would only be fair to take Franck out - he had too few games in charge, so the effects of a "small sample size" will be amplified and his results will seem worse than they actually were.
The thing that is strange about it is that results really don't lie - it is probably the exact order I would rate our managers in during my time watching the club. Not much between the bottom three but I must admit I really didn't like Calderwood so he'd probably be bottom.
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10-06-2015 05:20 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Without managers having good players they struggle. Yogi and Mixu kinda did regardless.
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69 Days is not a fair kick o'the baw in my book
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10-06-2015 05:33 PM #17
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McLeish also has a season in the Championship.
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10-06-2015 05:41 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Surely Stubbs' win ratio is out of context, as every match has been in the second tier.
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10-06-2015 05:50 PM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Time will tell, obviously, but so far I really like him. He totally changed our style of play, he attracted good players for the level we're at, unfortunately he just had too much too improve in his first year so we fell a bit short.
I have confidence that if he stays long enough then he'll earn his place at the top of that list.
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10-06-2015 06:56 PM #20
I'd be interested to see that stats for both JCs and Yogis first 30 games in charge and their last 20 odd. My guess is the difference would be very clear.
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10-06-2015 07:05 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Different times I accept. Miller, Stokes and Riordan. On the rare occasions they were all up for it and in form, that was a very decent team.
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10-06-2015 07:18 PM #22
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TB being below the worst manager we'd ever seen at ER (Duff Jimmy), says everything that needs saying about Butcher and his dream team - utterly horrendous.
Duff Jimmy was semi interesting to listen to, Calderdud was a useless, boring and gormless.
If you remove PF's cup wins, would show a very different picture.
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10-06-2015 07:26 PM #23
Fenlon did okay in the grand scheme of things IMHO. Two cup finals in a row can't be sniffed at, but it was the 1-5 and 0-7 that killed him, and by the end he knew he could go no further.
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As regards Blobby, none of us will really look back on that time with a great deal of fondness but I actually think that with hindsight Blobby did a very decent job and deserves our respect. He had to dismantle a highly-paid (and hopelessly underachieving) team and throw in the youngsters, and whilst it wasn't exactly inspiring at least we were never really threatened by relegation. I know that is faint praise given the size and ambitions of our club but you only need to see our current predicament (and that of The Rangers and Hearts) to see that this needn't necessarily be taken for granted. And there was probably a fair bit of "financial doping" going on elsewhere at that time so he was working with one arm tied behind his back.
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10-06-2015 10:05 PM #26
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10-06-2015 10:25 PM #27
If you only include wins then you won't see a true picture, the draw and loss percentages are equally revealing.
Re Fenlon, he made some dreadful mistakes with Hibs friendly media and I think his biggest failing was a lack of confidence in his own ability - I think he knew how bad our problems were and I think he could have fixed them. I suppose that's why he's back in Ireland.
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10-06-2015 10:34 PM #28hfc rdLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Kinda surprised how Blobby is 5th.
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10-06-2015 10:51 PM #30
Mowbray wasn't perfect but all things being equal, he is rightly top of that list. Mcleish had a better team but we paid for it and they petered out in 2001.
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