Does he only have 1 year left?
May be quite hard convincing players to commit to 2 year deals when your manager is only signed up for a year...
I was talking about guys such as Allan, Fontaine, not those who have already signed on.
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10-06-2015 12:10 PM #1
Stubbs contract?
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10-06-2015 12:45 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I said this the other week Keith on another thread. Leanne should make sure that Stubbs is the priority. Players come and go but having a manager who has a vision, plays good football and KNOWS what he's doing is key to the club moving forward. Come on Hibs... Get him on a long term contract!!
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10-06-2015 01:31 PM #3
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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10-06-2015 01:43 PM #5
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I'm flabbergasted that anyone would even be considering us sacking Stubbs!
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10-06-2015 02:01 PM #6
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As for the chopping and changing managers, I think two season is more than enough time to get Hibs up.Last edited by Steve20; 10-06-2015 at 02:06 PM.
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10-06-2015 02:09 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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10-06-2015 02:13 PM #8
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Alan Stubbs has done ok so far. Nothing more and nothing less. He needs promotion this season.
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10-06-2015 02:14 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-06-2015 02:27 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Good players seem to want to play for Stubbs. The likes of Lewis Stevenson has said its the fittest hes ever been in his career. Alan Stubbs will go on to manage bigger clubs than Hibs, and it been 10 years and 7 managers since we've been able to say that
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10-06-2015 02:48 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hearts romped the league so we never got close to going up automatically and we lost our only playoff tie not even making it to the final.
Stubbs done the bare minimum (in league terms) by getting us into the playoffs.
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10-06-2015 02:58 PM #12
I don't get why we would get rid even if he never got us promoted, purely for the reason I don't know anyone who could do a better job on out budget
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10-06-2015 03:18 PM #14
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I'm all for AS getting an extension, but as I have said in a previous thread all our players seem to be getting 2 year deals and we are talking about giving certain players a year extension too.
If we give Stubbs a year extension there is nothing to stop him leaving and taking the backbone of our team with him for absoloutely nothing. This means that any championship side could have AS as manager and several very good players too and we would get nothing from any deal.
I personally would offer AS a 2 year extension and let's get some long term stability from a manager/ coach and players that could make us a team to be reckoned with once again in the premiership.
As for not getting us promoted well come to that bridge if and when it happens, but I believe we will this year.
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10-06-2015 03:35 PM #15
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Personally, I like 1 year rolling contracts for managers.
Long term contracts only benefit rubbish managers because you have to pay them off.
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10-06-2015 03:39 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think if we manage to keep AS here, it will be a coup for Hibs, if we don't it'll be to our detriment and bad for the long term health of the club.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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10-06-2015 03:45 PM #17
Think some people need to be careful what they wish for. Alan Stubbs is a VERY good manager, best we have had since Mowbray/McLeish, in fact, given time could prove best since Turnbull. lets see what he can do with a squad he built, with a good pre-season behind him, think we will all be delighted with him come end of the season, only fear I have is, he leaves us for a bigger club. For what it's worth, I think he is doing a fantastic job and we will win the league this year.
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10-06-2015 03:48 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire
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10-06-2015 04:07 PM #19
If we don't go back up either next season or the next again at the latest, I can see us becoming a dyed in the wool Championship club. As far as Stubbs is concerned, I don't think he would want to stay on for another year if that were the case.
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10-06-2015 04:32 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I like Stubbs, I think he'll do well next season but I don't see the urgency to extend his deal. If we fail to get promotion he's ultimately failed two years in a row, regardless of how you dress it up.
If we don't go up next season we'd have to give consideration to replacing him, hearts have shown what can be achieved in this league on a similar budget so we'll have a benchmark to compare against. If we have a similar season to them but rangers do as well I could handle missing out but another season like this one and we fail to go up wouldn't be good enough.
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10-06-2015 04:39 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not saying we will not go up but changes might occur especially if at the end of next season if we don't go up and Rangers don't go up and again there is at least one team dropping down? and what if we have a pretty bad season? that will take care of itself. Now I am not saying we sack him if we don't go up, but we have to be realistic in today's game. Most managers are on a short leash.
However, all that said, I am confident we can win this league! In fact i might stick a few quid on us to win it and I won't worry about 2016/16 until we get through 2015/16.
Stubbs can do it this year!
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10-06-2015 05:13 PM #22
If anyone else saw the Stubbs interview after Fyvie signed a 2 year deal, he spoke a bit about a Fyvies past with a change of management down south leading to his career dipping before coming back here.
Reading between the lines, the fact that AS highlighted that in particular, I'd take from that, a key factor of Fyvie staying and signing for us would be Stubbs assuring him that the current management would be constant for the foreseeable future.
Although there's a high chance that I have maybe looked too much into it, that's what struck me when I watched that particular interview!
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10-06-2015 05:15 PM #23
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He'll be getting an extension fairly soon I reckon.
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10-06-2015 07:00 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My point was in response to someone saying we just about went up last season which I don't agree with.
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10-06-2015 07:04 PM #25
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10-06-2015 07:09 PM #26
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11-06-2015 07:35 AM #27
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I like Stubbs, he comes across as a nice guy. But results wise, he's not achieved anything yet. We only beat Falkirk, QOS and Raith a grand total of 3 times in 12 matches. Chuck in a poor semi final which was there for the taking. "Oh but we dominated" doesn't make a difference, we lost.
Yes the football is easier on the eye, but give me scrappy 1-0 wins every week to get out this league please rather than well played defeats.
Stubbs deserves another shot at it, but to say he's done anything other than OK so far is pushing it. A lot of people are blinded by the 4-0 at Christmas over Rangers, IMO.
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11-06-2015 08:04 AM #28
Where do we draw the line? IF rangers spend big and win the league then what are we looking at. Is finishing 2nd enough, is it making the playoffs, is it making the playoff final?
People can't honestly believe he should keep his job no matter what. A line has to be drawn somewhere I'm affraid.
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11-06-2015 08:26 AM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't think it will get to that tho, as I reckon we may be looking at the top 4 being promoted through reconstruction.
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11-06-2015 09:09 AM #30
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I'm confident that when Stubbs leaves Hibs it will be his choice.
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