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    The situation described above is one that caused all kinds of issues when I managed a bar.

    We treated non alcoholic beers in the exact same way as we treated alcohol. There were 2 key reasons but they are largely connected and a lot of shops and bars do similar. The packaging of non alcoholic beer and the regular thing is pretty much indistinguishable. From a social responsibility point of view that could be seen as encouraging brand recognition in a minor (think branded candy cigarettes). Secondly that similar packaging makes it hard to track who is drinking what at a table. A bottle of Becks Blue and regular Becks could easily be swapped between parent and child at a table without staff noticing. That potentially leaves an individual open to legal trouble. At weddings and the like it wasn't uncommon for an irate dad to kick off because his son had been refused service for a non alcoholic beer.

    For most shops and bars it is company policy to treat beer and it's non alcoholic cousin as one and the same. Whilst legally someone under 18 can buy NA beer, the big supermarkets would all refuse service and the challenge 25 would activate on self service tills. Likewise if the barriers on the alcohol aisle are up pre 10am the NA beer will be within that boundary. Whether they would sell you it if you took it to the till is another matter, I'd suspect not as the barcode will belong to the licensed group and much like the challenge 25 activating for NA beer so it will flag up when being scanned 'out of hours'.

    It comes back to the same issue as I encountered in bars. The easiest way to avoid encouraging people to attempt to buy alcohol outwith licensed hours is to treat alcohol substitutes as alcohol. I'm not talking about orange juice that has fermented slightly in the carton or whatever but rather items that are packaged to resemble and marketed as comparable alternatives to alcohol.

    It sounds like the shop in question suffered from poor training, poor communication and confused or perhaps non existent policy but you would encounter the same answer in many shops and pretty much all the major supermarket groups. I think it's entirely possible the supervisor just didn't know the answer and was uncomfortable with the situation and looked for an easy out. Not an ideal way to deal with it but those selling licensed products are always wary of being caught out because the responsibility is on the person as well as the company.


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    The situation described above is one that caused all kinds of issues when I managed a bar.

    We treated non alcoholic beers in the exact same way as we treated alcohol. There were 2 key reasons but they are largely connected and a lot of shops and bars do similar. The packaging of non alcoholic beer and the regular thing is pretty much indistinguishable. From a social responsibility point of view that could be seen as encouraging brand recognition in a minor (think branded candy cigarettes). Secondly that similar packaging makes it hard to track who is drinking what at a table. A bottle of Becks Blue and regular Becks could easily be swapped between parent and child at a table without staff noticing. That potentially leaves an individual open to legal trouble. At weddings and the like it wasn't uncommon for an irate dad to kick off because his son had been refused service for a non alcoholic beer.

    For most shops and bars it is company policy to treat beer and it's non alcoholic cousin as one and the same. Whilst legally someone under 18 can buy NA beer, the big supermarkets would all refuse service and the challenge 25 would activate on self service tills. Likewise if the barriers on the alcohol aisle are up pre 10am the NA beer will be within that boundary. Whether they would sell you it if you took it to the till is another matter, I'd suspect not as the barcode will belong to the licensed group and much like the challenge 25 activating for NA beer so it will flag up when being scanned 'out of hours'.

    It comes back to the same issue as I encountered in bars. The easiest way to avoid encouraging people to attempt to buy alcohol outwith licensed hours is to treat alcohol substitutes as alcohol. I'm not talking about orange juice that has fermented slightly in the carton or whatever but rather items that are packaged to resemble and marketed as comparable alternatives to alcohol.

    It sounds like the shop in question suffered from poor training, poor communication and confused or perhaps non existent policy but you would encounter the same answer in many shops and pretty much all the major supermarket groups. I think it's entirely possible the supervisor just didn't know the answer and was uncomfortable with the situation and looked for an easy out. Not an ideal way to deal with it but those selling licensed products are always wary of being caught out because the responsibility is on the person as well as the company.
    Yeah, I guess my main peeve was looking for an easy out rather than being straightforward and saying "Y'know, I don't know so I'd rather play safe". I also sell licensed products and also was responsible for dealing with car finance in the past and if I had someone who asked for something I'd just be honest and go "I'm not sure I can do that" and look to find out for the future or if that person is willing and happy to wait for an answer.

    I can't remember one customer who perhaps after an initial gripe didn't appreciate the open, honest answer of "I don't know". It's three words that are quite frankly quite reassuring.

    It really, really didn't help that there was one person working the till properly choosing to have a big long conversation with the people in front who she clearly knew, but that's a gripe all in itself.


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    A bit like "rolling out" the vaccine? It must come in big barrels or something.
    FFS it's "cohort" now when referring to different groups to be vaccinated.
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    Frozen 1 & 2, specifically those films as I like all the Pixar films and you can’t beat the Disney classics but my 2 year old is obsessed with Frozen at the minute. I don’t get it, why was this such a behemoth?

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    Frozen 1 & 2, specifically those films as I like all the Pixar films and you can’t beat the Disney classics but my 2 year old is obsessed with Frozen at the minute. I don’t get it, why was this such a behemoth?
    Cos they're aimed at bairns?

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    Frozen 1 & 2, specifically those films as I like all the Pixar films and you can’t beat the Disney classics but my 2 year old is obsessed with Frozen at the minute. I don’t get it, why was this such a behemoth?
    It mystifies me as well.

    I have a 3 year old who runs about dressed as Elsa 'singing' Let it Go for about 90% of the week.

    I love Disney films and I'd happily watch most Pixar films again and again but I don't get Frozen at all. Obviously it's aimed at kids but that doesn't usually stop me enjoying a film. Both films are slow and boring.
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    Frozen 1 & 2, specifically those films as I like all the Pixar films and you can’t beat the Disney classics but my 2 year old is obsessed with Frozen at the minute. I don’t get it, why was this such a behemoth?
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    Cos they're aimed at bairns?
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    It mystifies me as well.

    I have a 3 year old who runs about dressed as Elsa 'singing' Let it Go for about 90% of the week.

    I love Disney films and I'd happily watch most Pixar films again and again but I don't get Frozen at all. Obviously it's aimed at kids but that doesn't usually stop me enjoying a film. Both films are slow and boring.
    You’re all wrong

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    It mystifies me as well.

    I have a 3 year old who runs about dressed as Elsa 'singing' Let it Go for about 90% of the week.

    I love Disney films and I'd happily watch most Pixar films again and again but I don't get Frozen at all. Obviously it's aimed at kids but that doesn't usually stop me enjoying a film. Both films are slow and boring.
    My niece has an 8 year old who loves frozen, and he also has the dolls, and wants to be a hairdresser when he grows up. 🤔😁
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    Women that put the toilet seat down. I mean, wtf!!

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    Women that put the toilet seat down. I mean, wtf!!
    Urmm I think you’ll find that it’s kind of useful for them to do so

    If you mean the lid then it’s only good manners and hygiene to close that after use. It is after all what it’s there for!

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    Getting asked how to do something that you don’t know how to do, then the person keeping asking you even after you’ve explained you don’t know to the point that you decide to just have a go and then they don’t do what you suggest anyway.
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    People who refer to pints as jars.

    I've no idea why but it's just always annoyed me.
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    People who talk through good TV or films. And then when you hit pause on the remote, complain like you’re the one who’s rude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    People who refer to pints as jars.

    I've no idea why but it's just always annoyed me.
    Agree. Also ‘going for beers’ instead of ‘going for a few pints’. Ditto ‘Going out for some wines’. Horrendous chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    People who talk through good TV or films. And then when you hit pause on the remote, complain like you’re the one who’s rude.
    Happens to me all the time. If I'm watching the TV late at night I'll have the sound low so as not to disturb anyone. Then my wife or one of my daughters appear for a drink of water or something, start talking to the cat making high pitched baby talk noises while banging cupboard doors etc.

    But as soon as I hit pause the comments start...

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    Happens to me all the time. If I'm watching the TV late at night I'll have the sound low so as not to disturb anyone. Then my wife or one of my daughters appear for a drink of water or something, start talking to the cat making high pitched baby talk noises while banging cupboard doors etc.

    But as soon as I hit pause the comments start...
    I was watching The Odd Couple last week. Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon. One of my all time favourite movies. Made the mistake of suggesting we all watch it. There’s a scene where the 5 male characters break off from their poker game to have sandwiches, which Lemmon has cut off the bread crusts, evidence of Lemmons obsessive nature. Really funny scene, the men like the sandwiches but hate the way their poker night has been sanitized. Great dialogue, classic script. Instead of watching properly, wife and daughter start a conversation about favourite sandwich fillings. I honestly only threw about three dirty looks before hitting pause and waiting for quiet. But you’d have thought I’d have shat myself or declared myself a neo nazi or something.

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    This is going to be weirdly specific but the type of 21 / 22 year old ******** who has had "mama and papa" bankroll everything in their cushy lives which for some reason leads them to believe they can treat other people without respect or manners.


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    Agree. Also ‘going for beers’ instead of ‘going for a few pints’. Ditto ‘Going out for some wines’. Horrendous chat.
    Girls/women who say things like "we must meet for a glass of fizz soon" or "need to share some bubbles".just say Prosecco or Champagne!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    People who talk through good TV or films. And then when you hit pause on the remote, complain like you’re the one who’s rude.
    You’re married, eh?
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    I was watching The Odd Couple last week. Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon. One of my all time favourite movies. Made the mistake of suggesting we all watch it. There’s a scene where the 5 male characters break off from their poker game to have sandwiches, which Lemmon has cut off the bread crusts, evidence of Lemmons obsessive nature. Really funny scene, the men like the sandwiches but hate the way their poker night has been sanitized. Great dialogue, classic script. Instead of watching properly, wife and daughter start a conversation about favourite sandwich fillings. I honestly only threw about three dirty looks before hitting pause and waiting for quiet. But you’d have thought I’d have shat myself or declared myself a neo nazi or something.
    Always.

    I can't remember what we were watching the other week but I got the inevitable 'who's that guy?'.

    That guy is the guy who was introduced in the pub called the Kings Head in Manchester which for some reason prompted you to enquire if I remembered when we went to that pub called the Queens Arms in London 8 years ago and then spend 5 minutes recounting the cocktail menu and spitting venom about the woman sitting behind us who barged past you on her way out.

    Just watch the ****ing film.

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    Always.

    I can't remember what we were watching the other week but I got the inevitable 'who's that guy?'.

    That guy is the guy who was introduced in the pub called the Kings Head in Manchester which for some reason prompted you to enquire if I remembered when we went to that pub called the Queens Arms in London 8 years ago and then spend 5 minutes recounting the cocktail menu and spitting venom about the woman sitting behind us who barged past you on her way out.

    Just watch the ****ing film.
    Worse when they spend 5 minutes farting about with their phone at the start of the movie then complain they don’t know what’s happening with the film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Always.

    I can't remember what we were watching the other week but I got the inevitable 'who's that guy?'.

    That guy is the guy who was introduced in the pub called the Kings Head in Manchester which for some reason prompted you to enquire if I remembered when we went to that pub called the Queens Arms in London 8 years ago and then spend 5 minutes recounting the cocktail menu and spitting venom about the woman sitting behind us who barged past you on her way out.

    Just watch the ****ing film.
    😂

    I do this all the time, drives my wife crazy. Just pause it!!

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    After catching up watching loads of box set series since last March, we've spend far too long trying to figure out what other shows most of the actors are in and end up having to pause or rewind after googling them, it seems like there's only about 40 British actors and they just rotate the roles to keep them all in work.

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    Agree. Also ‘going for beers’ instead of ‘going for a few pints’. Ditto ‘Going out for some wines’. Horrendous chat.
    surely if you're drinking beer in any other measure than a pint or you're actually going out to drink wine than those are correct?

    folk who drink nonsense coffees. Starbucks and the like have a lot to answer for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy View Post
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    surely if you're drinking beer in any other measure than a pint or you're actually going out to drink wine than those are correct?

    folk who drink nonsense coffees. Starbucks and the like have a lot to answer for.

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    If you wanted to be really w**ky, you could argue that any amount of drink/liquid can be measured in pints (fractions or multiples thereof) so "pints" still works.

    As for "wines", it's only correct if you're going to drink different types. If you're sticking to the same type then it's just wine - it's the glasses that become plural.

    If we start to speak about pints of wine, we sound like we're in a folk song.

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    Twice recently I've heard younger people interviewed on TV talk about their "friendship group". When did this become a thing? What's wrong with pals, mates or even just friends?

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    Thinking about the Sunderland documentary on Netflix and the disco lights at Celtic - football becoming more of an "experience". I don't want a "Balearic vibe" or blaring music, I want to watch a good game of football, fair enough have some music on when the teams run out but if I wanted ***** music and irritating lights I'd go to a nightclub.


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