i don't agree that we need pace in this Division as TBH we won't get a chance to use it as teams will just sit in against us more often than not, so not as if we'll be hitting on the break. What we need is players with invention and/or wingers who can get past people and make things happen as currently all too often Hibs pas across the 18 yard line and struggle to create anything in the final 3rd.
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30-05-2015 06:03 PM #31
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31-05-2015 06:35 AM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you watched Motherwell break v the orcs, or ICT in the Scottish cup final, you see that pace breaks teams and turns pressure into goals.
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31-05-2015 06:41 AM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Remember what hearts did this year? Level on points in derby games v us, but over 20 points ahead overall - largely due to destroying smaller teams home and away. They got the first goal more often than not, then it was game over.
Tippy tappy nice fitba won't win us the league, and if we consistently beat the smaller teams, the 4 games v The Rangers may not be as crucial.
IMO if we add pace on both wings, plus one penalty box poacher, we have the basis of it.
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31-05-2015 07:41 AM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think the way we packed the midfield against the pish teams was unnecessary and left us short on the wings where they were vulnerable.
We were too reliant on full backs for width and that showed at the end of the season.
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31-05-2015 07:44 AM #36
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I think what we need is a midfielder that can ping one in from 20 yards on a frequent basis.
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31-05-2015 08:44 AM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think its one of the reasons we drew so many games this season.
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31-05-2015 09:21 AM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Lack of goals from midfield was a factor, as was lack of width and a plan B. When we got Farid back that added another dimension to our game, albeit with a traditional twist.
How did Hearts do it so effectively, one wonders? 20 points gap says they were better tactically?
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31-05-2015 09:47 AM #39
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Where we struggled was breaking teams down - that gave them encouragement to dig in even more and made out square balls across the 18 yard line even more ineffective.
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31-05-2015 07:28 PM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I only saw Hibs in half a dozen games last season so I suppose I can't really say I have any major insight into it, but lack of cutting edge is a factor. The times we dominated play, with some really lovely football and a fair bit of grit too, but didn't get a goal suggests we lacked something up front, despite the good goals tally from Cummings and Malonga. However, I also realise our midfielders didn't score too many either( I think Robertson had the most?).
Anyways, if ŵe don't get to keep Boyle then it's a must that we sign a decent wide player. I reckon that will be a crucial signing for Stubbs, alongside the re-signing of all the key guys from this season. We need proven quality, not a young loanee and I reckon Stubbs will ensure we have that position sorted for the start of the next season.
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31-05-2015 07:42 PM #41
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We also need to be more productive at corners and throw ins. How many corners did we get in games and how many goals did we score at corners or free kicks for that matter
Set pieces need to be better.
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31-05-2015 08:09 PM #42
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And a midfielder or 2 that chip in with 8-12 goals a season.
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31-05-2015 08:24 PM #43
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We'd be patient trying to pass a team to death when teams would just park the bus, the Yams would chuck a cross in from deep and score, or crack one in from 20 yards, and once they got the first goal they were able to pick off teams and pass the ball into the net.
It was very effective, and something we definitely lacked. Getting someone that can chip in with goals from midfield is essential, IMHO.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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31-05-2015 08:37 PM #45
I predict Alex Harris will play a big part in Stubbs plans next season. I would like to see him pushed inside more and play on the right of a diamond. Get him more involved in the game.
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Imo it's essential we replace some of our centre midfielders with wingers, if we do that it'll stretch the opposition and midfielders will be able to make runs into the box. It'll mean we might not keep having 70 or 80% possession but Maybe we just need to trust our defence more.
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Instead of that we tried to do it all centrally so teams would pack the midfield and defence knowing that's where our attacks would come from. When we did get it wide our full backs would swing it in to the area they'd crowded out.
Obviously I'm generalising about our play but I do think if we were to try and stretch the game a bit more we'd get more success against the smaller teams.
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31-05-2015 11:19 PM #50
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01-06-2015 10:42 AM #52
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How about Gregg Wylde? Out of COntract at St Mirren. I seem to remember him bveing pretty rapid. Just been relegated with St Mirren but could do a job as a squad player in thge championship for us?
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01-06-2015 11:02 AM #53
Pace is needed but stamina and tempo was what Hertz brought to many of those fixtures that they scooshed. If you are fitter and press relentlessly from the off, teams like Livi, Alloa, Raith cannot live with you
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01-06-2015 12:11 PM #54
More by chance than by design but Hearts tore the opposition apart last season by using two wingers who could cut inside and score in addition to beating their FB and crossing into the box.
Motherwell showed over 2 legs how pace and wingmen beat the slow Sevco defence. Against Sevco, Hibs played it too central into a congested box which the experienced, if slow, Sevco defence could cope with. To often trying to walk the ball into the goal ended in blockage.
Of course it will be a totally new Sevco next season but where Hibs lost out last season was the inability to put lesser teams away. We must hit the ground running next season and not drop points to teams we should be beating.
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although they scored 26 more goals than us, the goals were spread throughout the team. I read somewhere that all outfield players in their squad scored. While Cummings and Malonga topped the charts they were far too erratic.
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01-06-2015 04:19 PM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He said he was pretty shocked at the condition if the players when he arrived last summer. I'm sure players will return from their holidays in better shape and go from there.
Goals from midfield a definite weakness though and needs to be addressed.
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My local newsagent does not stock it.
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09-06-2015 07:38 PM #59
I see Ricky Foster has been released by Sevco.
would definately add some pace to the team as one of the only players i've ever seen keep pace with Sproule when he was with Aberdeen
versatile as well as he can play full back as well as a winger on either side i think.
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