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    Keep or let go?

    I'm aware some players will be out of contract and probably leaving anyway but who in the current squad would you want to retain or be happy to see go for next season?

    Oxley - Leave - too inconsistent, we could probably get better.
    Gray - Keep - must be captain next season.
    Hanlon - Keep
    Fontaine - Keep
    Forster - Keep
    Harris - Unsure - doesn't look to have impressed for Dundee, not sure if worth keeping on.
    Robertson - Keep - vastly improved this season and one of our key players.
    El Alagui - Keep
    Craig - Leave - whilst he has shown glimpses of the player he was at St Johnstone, it hasn't been often enough and he's probably one of our higher earners.
    Stanton - Unsure - don't think he's delivered on the promise he showed last season.
    Stevenson - Keep
    Boyle - Keep - our only player with pace.
    Watson - Leave - hasn't impressed and woud probably ask for fairly high wages considering he'd be backup to Gray.
    Handling - Leave - has had very few good games in a Hibs shirt IMO, sorry.
    Allan - Keep - if we hold on to this guy for next season then we can book our place in the 16-17 Premiership.
    Fyvie - Keep - class act.
    McGeouch - Keep - see above.
    Malonga - Keep - he has shown that there is an excellent player in there. He wouldn't be at us if he wasn't inconsistent.
    Dja Djedje - Leave - hasn't impressed.
    Cerny - Keep - did well at Hamilton and could be our first choice next season.
    Cummings - Keep

    What do you guys think?

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    Fontaine is an absolute must imo. Handling won't be going anywhere unless a bid comes in which is doubtful imo.

    I'd keep Djedje as I like the look of him and I wouldn't be against keeping Craig.

    I'd be happy to see Oxley go, he infuriates me. Not too bothered about McGeough due to his injury issues.

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    My thoughts are:

    Oxley - Leave - too inconsistent, we have got better in Cerny.
    Gray - Keep - must be captain next season.
    Hanlon - Keep
    Fontaine - Keep
    Forster - Keep
    Harris - keep, he's pacy and if the boo boys lay off him will be a good asset.
    Robertson - unsure - gives away far too many stupid fouls in dangerous positions.
    El Alagui - Keep - the only aerial threat we have as was proven again today, creates havoc wherever he goes.
    Craig - Leave - if we keep Fyvie
    Stanton - loaned out to a premier team he'll be an asset for the future.
    Stevenson -Leave I'm afraid - he's been excellent this season but we need more of a threat than he offers going forward.
    Boyle - Keep
    Watson - Leave - bring in a youngster, they should be good enough for the championship.
    Handling - Loan out - he is a tidy player but won't get a look in at present.
    Allan - Keep - above all else he must stay to show ambition from the club.
    Fyvie - Keep.
    McGeouch - probably leave, injury prone and dimmed after a bright start.
    Malonga - Keep and show JC how to hold up the ball and bring in other players.
    Dja Djedje - Leave - hasn't impressed.
    Cerny - see Oxley.
    Cummings - Keep - look forward to him getting better and stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas View Post
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    My thoughts are:

    Oxley - Leave - too inconsistent, we have got better in Cerny.
    Gray - Keep - must be captain next season.
    Hanlon - Keep
    Fontaine - Keep
    Forster - Keep
    Harris - keep, he's pacy and if the boo boys lay off him will be a good asset.
    Robertson - unsure - gives away far too many stupid fouls in dangerous positions.
    El Alagui - Keep - the only aerial threat we have as was proven again today, creates havoc wherever he goes.
    Craig - Leave - if we keep Fyvie
    Stanton - loaned out to a premier team he'll be an asset for the future.
    Stevenson -Leave I'm afraid - he's been excellent this season but we need more of a threat than he offers going forward.
    Boyle - Keep
    Watson - Leave - bring in a youngster, they should be good enough for the championship.
    Handling - Loan out - he is a tidy player but won't get a look in at present.
    Allan - Keep - above all else he must stay to show ambition from the club.
    Fyvie - Keep.
    McGeouch - probably leave, injury prone and dimmed after a bright start.
    Malonga - Keep and show JC how to hold up the ball and bring in other players.
    Dja Djedje - Leave - hasn't impressed.
    Cerny - see Oxley.
    Cummings - Keep - look forward to him getting better and stronger.
    How does that make sense? He has been excellent but isnt good enough??!?!?!!?!

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    Need to keep Allan and Fontaine and maybe Gray - we will no doubt keep others but build the team round these boys and a proven goalscorer - someone like Adam Rooney - who's failed down south but good enough for us....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianhibee View Post
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    Need to keep Allan and Fontaine and maybe Gray - we will no doubt keep others but build the team round these boys and a proven goalscorer - someone like Adam Rooney - who's failed down south but good enough for us....
    The same Adam Rooney who has been back at Aberdeen for 18 months and was in the Scottish Premier League Team of the Season??

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    I'm aware some players will be out of contract and probably leaving anyway but who in the current squad would you want to retain or be happy to see go for next season?

    Oxley - Leave - too inconsistent, we could probably get better.
    Gray - Keep - must be captain next season.
    Hanlon - Keep
    Fontaine - Keep
    Forster - Keep
    Harris - Unsure - doesn't look to have impressed for Dundee, not sure if worth keeping on.
    Robertson - Keep - vastly improved this season and one of our key players.
    El Alagui - Keep
    Craig - Leave - whilst he has shown glimpses of the player he was at St Johnstone, it hasn't been often enough and he's probably one of our higher earners.
    Stanton - Unsure - don't think he's delivered on the promise he showed last season.
    Stevenson - Keep
    Boyle - Keep - our only player with pace.
    Watson - Leave - hasn't impressed and woud probably ask for fairly high wages considering he'd be backup to Gray.
    Handling - Leave - has had very few good games in a Hibs shirt IMO, sorry.
    Allan - Keep - if we hold on to this guy for next season then we can book our place in the 16-17 Premiership.
    Fyvie - Keep - class act.
    McGeouch - Keep - see above.
    Malonga - Keep - he has shown that there is an excellent player in there. He wouldn't be at us if he wasn't inconsistent.
    Dja Djedje - Leave - hasn't impressed.
    Cerny - Keep - did well at Hamilton and could be our first choice next season.
    Cummings - Keep

    What do you guys think?
    Agree with most. I don't think should try to get Boyle though. Not done enough whilst on loan. McGeouch was only on loan so we probably won't keep. Sad fact is core of squad was good but we didn't have good enough squad in the end so I would expect some to move on anyway. Plus club really need to think about getting some youngsters playing 1st team next season, it'll bring them on leaps and bounds getting 1st team games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madhatter View Post
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    Agree with most. I don't think should try to get Boyle though. Not done enough whilst on loan. McGeouch was only on loan so we probably won't keep. Sad fact is core of squad was good but we didn't have good enough squad in the end so I would expect some to move on anyway. Plus club really need to think about getting some youngsters playing 1st team next season, it'll bring them on leaps and bounds getting 1st team games.
    Boyle came on strong in the last couple months and single-handedly set us on our way to beating Falkirk. I'd give him a 1 year deal at least.

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    Boyle came on strong in the last couple months and single-handedly set us on our way to beating Falkirk. I'd give him a 1 year deal at least.
    Personally still not sure about him. There is potential there but is he even out of contract at Dundee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RagingReality View Post
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    Boyle came on strong in the last couple months and single-handedly set us on our way to beating Falkirk. I'd give him a 1 year deal at least.
    I'd give him a 1 year deal but I'd want him used as a squad player, I'm hoping for better in the first team.

    I want us to play with two proper wingers next season, If they're Harris and Boyle then we're in bother imo.

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    I'd give him a 1 year deal but I'd want him used as a squad player, I'm hoping for better in the first team.

    I want us to play with two proper wingers next season, If they're Harris and Boyle then we're in bother imo.
    Boyle was instrumental in the game against the puddledrinkers and great against Falkirk as well - how do you think this would be disastrous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas View Post
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    Boyle was instrumental in the game against the puddledrinkers and great against Falkirk as well - how do you think this would be disastrous?
    He's been here since January, I've made my opinion on him based on his time here and not got carried away with a couple of good performances.

    Should point out, I didn't see his performances against falkirk and hearts, was on holiday for hearts game and don't go to away games. Happy to take your word for it he played well in those games though.

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    Why the back lash against oxley?

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    Why the back lash against oxley?
    Not a backlash from me but I think we could get better. He's done a job this season but there must be better out there.

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    If Hull go down, Oxley might well stay. They'll be looking to offload fringe players and there's two GKs ahead of him in pecking order - one a regular international.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayern Bru View Post
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    If Hull go down, Oxley might well stay. They'll be looking to offload fringe players and there's two GKs ahead of him in pecking order - one a regular international.
    He's out of contract anyway.

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    Some of the Goal-Keepers we have had at Hibs.. And yet some Want Rid of Oxley..

    Who would/Should you Replace Him With ???
    Last edited by mca; 23-05-2015 at 10:04 PM. Reason: Just read the above post so added a question !!!

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    Boyle has tweeted this, reads like he'll not be signing permanently......"Would like to thank every @HibsOfficial members of staff, players & fans for the last 6 months. Learned a lot and gave it 100%. #Hibees⚽️👍🏼"

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    Re: Oxely

    I feel he's been the most reliable, steady goalie we've had in a long time.

    For the first time in a long time I never get nervous when a ball goes into our box.

    For where we are and what we can pay, I think we should be happy to have him.

    I'd be delighted if we could keep him.

    My opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Re: Oxely

    I feel he's been the most reliable, steady goalie we've had in a long time.

    For the first time in a long time I never get nervous when a ball goes into our box.

    For where we are and what we can pay, I think we should be happy to have him.

    I'd be delighted if we could keep him.

    My opinion.
    Mine too. Don't see the fuss about him. Doesn't make me worried at all which you can't say about most Hibs keepers in recent years!

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    Re: Oxely

    I feel he's been the most reliable, steady goalie we've had in a long time.

    For the first time in a long time I never get nervous when a ball goes into our box.

    For where we are and what we can pay, I think we should be happy to have him.

    I'd be delighted if we could keep him.

    My opinion.
    Opinions eh? Personally I crap myself every time the ball goes in the box. He constantly drops crosses and I don't think he is a good shot stopper.

    I'd go a step further and say I think he lets in lots of shots that you'd expect him to save.

    Im not anti-Oxley, I just think we should aim for someone better, he has great distribution and isn't Zibbi-esque with the awful errors. That being said just because we went through a few error prone keepers doesn't mean we should settle for some who isn't a bombscare.

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    Opinions eh? Personally I crap myself every time the ball goes in the box. He constantly drops crosses and I don't think he is a good shot stopper.

    I'd go a step further and say I think he lets in lots of shots that you'd expect him to save.

    Im not anti-Oxley, I just think we should aim for someone better, he has great distribution and isn't Zibbi-esque with the awful errors. That being said just because we went through a few error prone keepers doesn't mean we should settle for some who isn't a bombscare.


    I like Oxley and like others have said he's been our best keeper in a while. But I think we have a better keeper in Cerny. Better shot stopper. Oxley's distribution is great though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high bee View Post
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    Opinions eh? Personally I crap myself every time the ball goes in the box. He constantly drops crosses and I don't think he is a good shot stopper.

    I'd go a step further and say I think he lets in lots of shots that you'd expect him to save.

    Im not anti-Oxley, I just think we should aim for someone better, he has great distribution and isn't Zibbi-esque with the awful errors. That being said just because we went through a few error prone keepers doesn't mean we should settle for some who isn't a bombscare.
    I agree about the balls into the box, if only he would use his physique when coming for a ball and come with belief and take the feckun thing. Instead of his half arsed flappping/punching that he all too often reverts to. Other than that reasonably happy with him, a great organiser, very vocal too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high bee View Post
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    Opinions eh? Personally I crap myself every time the ball goes in the box. He constantly drops crosses and I don't think he is a good shot stopper.

    I'd go a step further and say I think he lets in lots of shots that you'd expect him to save.

    Im not anti-Oxley, I just think we should aim for someone better, he has great distribution and isn't Zibbi-esque with the awful errors. That being said just because we went through a few error prone keepers doesn't mean we should settle for some who isn't a bombscare.
    he worries me every time a ball comes into the box as he's either rooted to his line or he decides to come for it then changes his mind leaving him in no mans land. Plus he fumbles/punches the ball too often for my liking.

    His time wasting antics annoy me too.

    I do think he's a good shot stopper though

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    Re: Oxely

    I feel he's been the most reliable, steady goalie we've had in a long time.

    For the first time in a long time I never get nervous when a ball goes into our box.

    For where we are and what we can pay, I think we should be happy to have him.

    I'd be delighted if we could keep him.

    My opinion.
    Oxley is a mixed bag for me but probably in credit overall.

    Poor in his command of the area which has cost us points.
    Some excellent saves which have saved us points.

    Most important thing is his distribution which I think is the key to us playing actual football.
    Doesn't mean we have to keep him but I don't want anyone in as a replacement who doesn't look to play out from the back either through the centre backs or the wing backs. Punting the ball forward as the default is not what I want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Leith Dutch View Post
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    Oxley is a mixed bag for me but probably in credit overall.

    Poor in his command of the area which has cost us points.
    Some excellent saves which have saved us points.

    Most important thing is his distribution which I think is the key to us playing actual football.
    Doesn't mean we have to keep him but I don't want anyone in as a replacement who doesn't look to play out from the back either through the centre backs or the wing backs. Punting the ball forward as the default is not what I want to see.
    That is more to do with managerial led tactics rather than keeper preference I would think. Mixu had the same keepers as John Collins when he took over. The keepers nearly always rolled the ball out to a defender under Collins. The same keepers nearly always lumped it up to Nish under Mixu. In fact I can remember the crowd going mental at this tactic under Collins as it quite often put us under a lot of pressure as the defence clearly wasn't comfortable with this.

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    That is more to do with managerial led tactics rather than keeper preference I would think. Mixu had the same keepers as John Collins when he took over. The keepers nearly always rolled the ball out to a defender under Collins. The same keepers nearly always lumped it up to Nish under Mixu. In fact I can remember the crowd going mental at this tactic under Collins as it quite often put us under a lot of pressure as the defence clearly wasn't comfortable with this.
    Probably spot on in which case I really hope we keep hold of Stubbs.

    What's truly terrifying is that I look back to Michael Nelson and McGivern (sorry for dredging up bad memories) and their lumping it up the park and the conclusion must be that it was what Butcher and Fenlon wanted them to do. Given that it almost always resulted in us losing the ball it brings to mind Einstein's definition of insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.....

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    Reckon Djedje and Malonga are offski, we should be doing everything we can to sign John Sutton IMO.

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    Reckon Djedje and Malonga are offski, we should be doing everything we can to sign John Sutton IMO.
    Would rather keep Malonga, far far better player than Sutton.

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    Oxley - Keep. Not been so bad or inconsistent as some claim. Also, need more than 1 keeper.
    Gray - Keep.
    Hanlon - Undecided but would not be upset if he stayed.
    Fontaine - Keep
    Forster - Keep
    Harris - Worth another go but quite a short leash though. Fulfill the promise or then let go.
    Robertson - Tough one. Good bench player??? Mmmm. No let go even for his career.
    El Alagui - Keep - With good crosses from the wings he might even get a chance facing the goal instead of back to the goal like yesterday.
    Craig - Keep. I actually think next season will see more from him now the 'hangover' season from Butchers glorious tenure has passed.
    Stanton - Loan him out or let go.
    Stevenson - Don't get the love-in with him. He's ok but frankly is just workmanlike.
    Boyle - Keep....I think.
    Watson - Undecided.
    Handling - Loan out or let go but as he has a long contract the former is more likely. Or maybe just keep him to do nothing on the bench.
    Allan - Keep.
    Fyvie - Keep.
    McGeouch - A reasonable bench player but might find himself in and out too much for his own liking.
    Malonga - Keep.
    Dja Djedje - Undecided but probably needs more opportunities. Will he get them?
    Cerny - Keep. Need more than one keeper..
    Cummings - Dump. Can't handle the Sangria.
    Messi - Dump him. Does not like the manager.


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