Edinburgh rugby

[Brightside]

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I heard somewhere that the SRU are skint. Having to get rid of their 7s sides - something like that. Can't imagine they've got a spare £800k to put a nice shiny new pitch down at Easter Rd.

Im confused - why do SRU pay for Edinburgh Rugby? Is that not the same as the SFA paying for Hibs?

[J-C]

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Im confused - why do SRU pay for Edinburgh Rugby? Is that not the same as the SFA paying for Hibs?

The SRU in there wisdom a few years back took control of the then 4 professional sides, all the players have contracts with the SRU and the pro team at the same time, club rugby is still played at league level but there is very little connection with the pro teams.

When pro rugby started we had 4 teams Edinburgh Gunners, Glasgow Warriers, Border Reivers and Caledonian Reds from Aberdeen, laterly they merged to make 2 teams, Edinburgh and Glagow.

[lord bunberry]

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The SRU in there wisdom a few years back took control of the then 4 professional sides, all the players have contracts with the SRU and the pro team at the same time, club rugby is still played at league level but there is very little connection with the pro teams.

When pro rugby started we had 4 teams Edinburgh Gunners, Glasgow Warriers, Border Reivers and Caledonian Reds from Aberdeen, laterly they merged to make 2 teams, Edinburgh and Glagow.

It also allows the SRU to have complete control over the 2 professional clubs, they don't want the clubs becoming too strong like the football clubs have. The 2 professional clubs regularly have to do without their best players for weeks on end due to international commitments.

[Golden Bear]

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It also allows the SRU to have complete control over the 2 professional clubs, they don't want the clubs becoming too strong like the football clubs have. The 2 professional clubs regularly have to do without their best players for weeks on end due to international commitments.

THE SRU also regularly "lend" professional players to Club rugby and often for key fixtures. Needless to say the method of allocation leads to a certain amount of animosity in Club rugby circles as it can cause disruption in the camp and is often seen as being unfair.

The 2 professional teams (Edinburgh & Glasgow) both contain many foreign players so as a consequence their own home based players sometimes struggle to get a game. It is little wonder that Scotland don't compete well at international level.

Seems like madness within the governing bodies is not confined to football.

[Mark79]

Why dont edinburgh rugby then play at the asbestos arena while its being redeveloped? If only getting 4000 then they could be accomodated in of their death trap steep stands. Egg chasers can then destroy the park they have.

Why do we have to be involved at all in this?

[liamh2202]

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Why dont edinburgh rugby then play at the asbestos arena while its being redeveloped? If only getting 4000 then they could be accomodated in of their death trap steep stands. Egg chasers can then destroy the park they have.

Why do we have to be involved at all in this?

Pitch won't be big enough for rugger. Its smaller than the average public park

[Brightside]

Would they be allowed beer?

[NYHibby]

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The 2 professional teams (Edinburgh & Glasgow) both contain many foreign players so as a consequence their own home based players sometimes struggle to get a game. It is little wonder that Scotland don't compete well at international level.

I think this is an outdated and/or Edinburgh-centric view.

Speaking as a Glasgow supporter, we need our non-Scotland qualifying players otherwise we wouldn't be able to field a team during the 6 nations. The alternative would be to play a team of basically call ups from the clubs. We would have dropped additional points playing those lower quality players and may not have qualified for the playoffs as a result.

[J-C]

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I think this is an outdated and/or Edinburgh-centric view.

Speaking as a Glasgow supporter, we need our non-Scotland qualifying players otherwise we wouldn't be able to field a team during the 6 nations. The alternative would be to play a team of basically call up from the clubs. We would have dropped additional points playing those lower quality players and may not have qualified for the playoffs as a result.

Here's an idea, why don't we allow the club scene in Scotland to become professional, it started out that way before SRU stuck there noses in. Teams like Wastonians, Boroughmuir, Heriots etc were all at the fore front during the 1st pro era, they were gatting sponsorship and backing, allowing them to pay certain players more money to go full time.

Funnily enough we've not had a winning Scotland team since the days of Hastings etc which was at the tail end of the old amateur scene, we had a system in place with a good league and a step up via the district teams, these district teams became the original pro teams and when that happened the league teams were neglected.

There's no development of our youngsters as there is no pyramid system in place for them to learn their skills and grow as players, we have a development squad at the pro teams where youngsters are put on huge training regimes to bulk up, then farmed out for a wee bit of game play now and then.

[southsider]

Stick up 2 or 3 temp stands (as per Castle gigs) at East Mains. Egg chasers play there. We get rent & no damaged to pitch at ER ......sorted.

[SanFranHibs]

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Pitch won't be big enough for rugger. Its smaller than the average public park

Is Meadowbank still on the go? (Yes, it's been that long since I was down there).

Not a bad location for Edinburgh rugby?

Actually just googled Meadowbank and see their new 'plans' and the mention Edinburgh rubgy.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...dium-1-3683304

[Golden Bear]

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I think this is an outdated and/or Edinburgh-centric view.

Speaking as a Glasgow supporter, we need our non-Scotland qualifying players otherwise we wouldn't be able to field a team during the 6 nations. The alternative would be to play a team of basically call ups from the clubs. We would have dropped additional points playing those lower quality players and may not have qualified for the playoffs as a result.

Once a Border Reiver, always a Border Reiver!


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[NYHibby]

For those who think Scots are being squeezed out by foreign players, 13 of the starting 15 for what is potentially Glasgow's biggest game so far this season are eligible to play for Scotland in the World Cup.

http://www.glasgowwarriors.org/match...-16052015-1500

[Ozyhibby]

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Why dont edinburgh rugby then play at the asbestos arena while its being redeveloped? If only getting 4000 then they could be accomodated in of their death trap steep stands. Egg chasers can then destroy the park they have.

Why do we have to be involved at all in this?

I don't think the two are connected. We are involved because we want the rent. It is a way of funding better players for Hibs.

[Jamesie]

This all seems to have gone a bit quiet...

[Jamesie]

I'm guessing if this was happening we'd have known about it by now.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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I'm guessing if this was happening we'd have known about it by now.

Nah they're waiting to drop it in with the small print in the Scott Allan extension announcement.

Great day to bury bad news.

[s.a.m]

BBC report:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/33039431

[SunshineOnLeith]

BBC website carrying a story this morning that Edinburgh Rugby hope to play 'a couple of games' at Easter Rd next season.

If the impact on the pitch can be properly mitigated, I'm all for it. A nice little earner.

[zlatan]

This destroyed the pitch last time so would need to be funny money to get folk on board with the idea.

[hfc rd]

My biggest concern about this is the pitch.

Why don't they use Meadowbank for the egg chasing?

[Jamesie]

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BBC website carrying a story this morning that Edinburgh Rugby hope to play 'a couple of games' at Easter Rd next season.

If the impact on the pitch can be properly mitigated, I'm all for it. A nice little earner.

The article is quite confusing - starts off with "a couple of games" but goes on to state:

"We hope we can come to some sort of arrangement for the coming season," added Dodson - which I interpret as the SRU being keen to keep the door open for more than a couple of games.

Like you though, if the pitch can handle it then I'm all for it. The more usage and income we can make out of Easter Road the better.

[jdships]

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It also allows the SRU to have complete control over the 2 professional clubs, they don't want the clubs becoming too strong like the football clubs have. The 2 professional clubs regularly have to do without their best players for weeks on end due to international commitments.

That is the root of all problems in Scottish rugby
Pro players are told which club (Edinburgh/Glasgow) they will play for
I know of one who was returning to play in Scotland and had signing talks with Edinburgh as that was where he wanted to live.
NO - he was told by SRU he had to sign for Glasgow !!

[weonlywon6-2]

BBC reporting they are looking to play a couple of games at Easter Road next season

Thoughts???

[Keith_M]

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BBC reporting they are looking to play a couple of games at Easter Road next season

Thoughts???

I think any Football Team visiting ER should have to play a forty minutes rugby match against Edinburgh Rugby, then a full game against Hibs directly after.

[E10 Rifle]

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Here's an idea, why don't we allow the club scene in Scotland to become professional, it started out that way before SRU stuck there noses in. Teams like Wastonians, Boroughmuir, Heriots etc were all at the fore front during the 1st pro era, they were gatting sponsorship and backing, allowing them to pay certain players more money to go full time.

Funnily enough we've not had a winning Scotland team since the days of Hastings etc which was at the tail end of the old amateur scene, we had a system in place with a good league and a step up via the district teams, these district teams became the original pro teams and when that happened the league teams were neglected.

There's no development of our youngsters as there is no pyramid system in place for them to learn their skills and grow as players, we have a development squad at the pro teams where youngsters are put on huge training regimes to bulk up, then farmed out for a wee bit of game play now and then.

Club scene wouldn't be able to afford it I feel even if Edinburgh is still very strong on the club front. The SRU want amateur clubs to take more of the financial risk in terms of developing stars and facilities over the next few years but there's no income to offset this unless you're a one community club like Ayr or a few others.

I think a few games at ER would be good. I can't remember the state of the pitch after rugby matches stopping us winning the league or the cup last time? We have a huge facility that lies idle for many, many weeks of the year and need to make it work commercially for the club.

[Iggy Pope]

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BBC reporting they are looking to play a couple of games at Easter Road next season

Thoughts???

I was just thinking that the playing surface is looking better at this stage than it has for years.

[weonlywon6-2]

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I was just thinking that the playing surface is looking better at this stage than it has for years.

True, not bothered if we do it, good media coverage for the ground and some money

[Golden Bear]

A hybrid pitch similar to the one at Murrayfield could be the answer. Maybe the SRU would be kind enough to fund it.

[bod]

they should be told to bolt if they contact hibs regarding playing at ER this season & whichever board member votes for it should bolt anaw
NO NO NO NO NO