Cummings' Diving

[Hibernian Verse]

Thoughts?

I was less than impressed a couple of times. It's not how I want my team playing and this was a view shared around me at the game.

Happy to be proved wrong if they weren't dives? Just what it looked like from where I was.

[DaveF]

I didn't see them as dives at all.

Lack of strength leading to him being easily brushed off the ball = Yes. Dives = No.

[JimBHibees]

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I didn't see them as dives at all.

Lack of strength leading to him being easily brushed off the ball = Yes. Dives = No.

Agree.

[O'Rourke3]

The last time he went over (a few minutes before he scored) was as close to a dive as I can imagine. There was no need for him to go down. I'm not accusing him of diving. I think as a previous poster has stated he has no upper body strength. My personal plan for him over the summer would be working on that as well as kicking with the right foot.

[greenlex]

First one no. Second one was as good a dive as you'll see.

[wookie70]

When he went down in the box at the FF end it was a stonewall penalty. Not quite as stonewall as when Boyle was fouled but the defender had a clear pull at his arm.

[Stuarty27]

We just won 4-1 and he scored again and looks likely to finish top scorer in the league.

why

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

I didn't see them as dives. Might have missed something though. I thought his hand was pulled at one of the incidents

[iwasthere1972]

Goes down quicker than a hooker in leith.

[tamig]

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I didn't see them as dives at all.

Lack of strength leading to him being easily brushed off the ball = Yes. Dives = No.

That was my take on it.

[Eyrie]

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We just won 4-1 and he scored again and looks likely to finish top scorer in the league.

why

There were a couple of occasions today when he'd lost the ball and fell over before looking to the referee or linesman to help him out. He's too good a prospect so it's not something we want creeping into his game in case he gets a negative reputation with the officials.

[Swedish hibee]

Jeez... Yeah, Let's all get behind young Cummings for the next few games

[Ricky Bobby]

Brushed off the ball quite easily at times today and a pretty poor first touch throughout the game, but the lad just keeps going and has a great knack of being in the right place at the right time.
I don't think dives

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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Jeez... Yeah, Let's all get behind young Cummings for the next few games

impossible to do so without admitting he sometimes gets things wrong? he is certainly guilty of diving around when there is no need.

[Geo_1875]

Football commentators and pundits usually describe it as "There was contact so he's entitled to go down...."

I don't agree with that but too many players believe it. Just watch any Edinburgh derby and you'll see how prevalent it is.

[Hibernian Verse]

I don't understand the posts that insinuate this is a slating thread. My point was that it doesn't matter how many goals you score diving should be unacceptable at ER and I merely asked the question of what others thought of his actions today.

Winning and scoring doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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I don't understand the posts that insinuate this is a slating thread. My point was that it doesn't matter how many goals you score diving should be unacceptable at ER and I merely asked the question of what others thought of his actions today.

Winning and scoring doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked.

[hibee_girl]

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I didn't see them as dives at all.

Lack of strength leading to him being easily brushed off the ball = Yes. Dives = No.

That's how I saw it too, he just needs to toughen up!

[lyonhibs]

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That's how I saw it too, he just needs to toughen up!

How did he react to getting brushed off the ball ? Assuming it was fair and he got up and on with the game, no dive.

If he threw a huffy trying to get a foul,it's a dive IMO.

[iwasthere1972]

Thought it was more noticeable today for some reason. Most folk beside me were shouting for him to get up. Now if your own fans are saying that then there's something not quite right. Scott Allen gets bundled over loads of times during the match but as far as I can remember he normally gets straight back up.

I'd much rather see Jason doing the same rather than sitting there with his hand up claiming for a foul or a penalty. The officials aren't going to suddenly changed their minds.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Goes down quicker than a hooker in leith.

How do you know ;-)

I'd need another look at the incidents before making any judgement, but there are very few players who don't dive these days, sadly. It's an accepted part of the game by the players.

[greenlex]

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How did he react to getting brushed off the ball ? Assuming it was fair and he got up and on with the game, no dive.

If he threw a huffy trying to get a foul,it's a dive IMO.

Got to disagree Lyon. If he's brushed off the ball he's more likely to want a foul. Huffy reactions are neither here nor there.

[macca70]

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How did he react to getting brushed off the ball ? Assuming it was fair and he got up and on with the game, no dive.

If he threw a huffy trying to get a foul,it's a dive IMO.

This is the most annoying part, he does throw huffy, waving his hands, looking for a foul/pen.

They weren't dives though, just too easily and fairly muscled off the ball which causes him to go down.

He needs to learn to get up and get on with it as the game is going on around him rather than throw a strop.

[jabis]

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Goes down quicker than a hooker in leith.

Leith have a rugby team?

[cabbageandribs1875]

the laddie just needs to get a few muffins down his thrapple and pay more visits to the gym...and take sammy stanton with him

[lord bunberry]

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Leith have a rugby team?

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[Wilson]

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I don't understand the posts that insinuate this is a slating thread. My point was that it doesn't matter how many goals you score diving should be unacceptable at ER and I merely asked the question of what others thought of his actions today.

Winning and scoring doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked.

Why should it be unacceptable? If every other team in the league does it are we supposed to stand alone as some kind of beacon? That sounds like one way to put yourself at a disadvantage before a ball is even kicked.

If it is part of the game then we should be up on it. If you're going to dive do it better.

[Scottie]

The young lad needs to get in the gym and bulk up a little as he is too easily dispossessed atm.

Hes a fantastic looking talent and I trust AS and co know the right development path to lead him down.

[BSEJVT]

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The young lad needs to get in the gym and bulk up a little as he is too easily dispossessed atm.

Hes a fantastic looking talent and I trust AS and co know the right development path to lead him down.

Whilst I agree in part with what you are saying, it seems more to me that the guy is absolutely knackered.

He has played far more and we have been far more reliant upon him that I had ever expected and he looks to me like he is running on empty on what is after all his first full season of first team football.

The fact that he has had his socks round his ankles and been subbed a hell of a lot recently would tend to suggest that too.

[J-C]

Still young and needs to strengthen up but as he's only around 5'8" he aint gonna be leading the line. He needs to start using his brain more and finding space, remember when Griffiths was first here he was the same and was bullied a lot by the CH's but look at him now a few short years later and he won't get pushed around that often now.