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    Anyone else in the same boat and, being selfish, 1% not too gutted??

    Firstly, let me specify that I was disappointed and upset that Hibs' habit of letting us down at Hampden continued unabated yesterday against Falkirk, a team that we should be aiming to beat every time we play them (I'm aware that's not how it had panned out this season prior to the match, but the fact remains, getting beat by them should not be seen as acceptable or understandable in the slightest).

    Distance has turned me into a bit of a part time fan (although I time my returns well, the last 2 games I've seen live were a 3-0 scudding of Kilmarnock under Butcher before it all went tits up, and then 4-0 against Rangers this season) but were I in or near Edinburgh I'd be down ER and at away matches as often as circumstances permitted.

    Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else found themselves in the same boat as me, in that they were guaranteed to miss the final for some reason and therefore - having attended almost every Hampden disappointment you care to mention in the past 10-15 years - the thought of Hibs winning the bloody thing without you there was simultaneously awesome but a bit grim from a selfish POV at the same time.

    Now, I don't have to scrabble around trying to find an Irish Bar in Medellin, Columbia, which is where I'll be on May 30th and won't spend quite so much of my time there before that thinking about the final (which would have wrecked my gfriend's head something awful!! )

    All in all, as well as the customary "oh FFS Hibs" and wry shake of the head that greeted the result on Saturday, there was a tiny bit of me that wasn't too upset, purely because the thought of not being there if/when we'd won this cursed cup makes me feel a bit sick in all honesty.

    Am I going to Jambo hell, or were there at least any other Hibbies feeling the same?


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    Nope I was gutted on Saturday and even more gutted now knowing that it would be Inverness we would have played and not Celtic.

    Saturday was just another in a very long list of disappointments following Hibs.

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    Nope I was gutted on Saturday and even more gutted now knowing that it would be Inverness we would have played and not Celtic.

    Saturday was just another in a very long list of disappointments following Hibs.
    We never just lose or are just crap. There is always a record to be broken, always hyped up or other factors which allow us to lose with style. Really fed up in being beaten in the games that really matter all the flipping time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonhibs View Post
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    Firstly, let me specify that I was disappointed and upset that Hibs' habit of letting us down at Hampden continued unabated yesterday against Falkirk, a team that we should be aiming to beat every time we play them (I'm aware that's not how it had panned out this season prior to the match, but the fact remains, getting beat by them should not be seen as acceptable or understandable in the slightest).

    Distance has turned me into a bit of a part time fan (although I time my returns well, the last 2 games I've seen live were a 3-0 scudding of Kilmarnock under Butcher before it all went tits up, and then 4-0 against Rangers this season) but were I in or near Edinburgh I'd be down ER and at away matches as often as circumstances permitted.

    Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else found themselves in the same boat as me, in that they were guaranteed to miss the final for some reason and therefore - having attended almost every Hampden disappointment you care to mention in the past 10-15 years - the thought of Hibs winning the bloody thing without you there was simultaneously awesome but a bit grim from a selfish POV at the same time.

    Now, I don't have to scrabble around trying to find an Irish Bar in Medellin, Columbia, which is where I'll be on May 30th and won't spend quite so much of my time there before that thinking about the final (which would have wrecked my gfriend's head something awful!! )

    All in all, as well as the customary "oh FFS Hibs" and wry shake of the head that greeted the result on Saturday, there was a tiny bit of me that wasn't too upset, purely because the thought of not being there if/when we'd won this cursed cup makes me feel a bit sick in all honesty.

    Am I going to Jambo hell, or were there at least any other Hibbies feeling the same?

    Sorry mate, it's just you and, yes, you are going to burn for eternity in the fires of a Maroon Inferno.




    p.s. I won't even ask what dodgy business it is you have in Colombia, drug capital of the world....

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    I wasn't at the game on Saturday, was at something through my work and to be honest barely gave the game a second thought. I was so detached from it I wasn't really all that bothered that we lost.

    I watched the whole game back on i-player yesterday afternoon and the reality of it kicked in big-time. The fact that we did control so much of the game, the fact that it felt like I'd seen that game many times before and the fact that Celtic were by then out just made it so much harder to take.

    It must have been an absolute heartbreaker to be at and I've been at enough of them over the years to know what they're like.

    Unfortunately I have more work things on at weekends over the next few weeks so I'll miss some more huge games. But I would be absolutely 100% devastated if we did not go up. Personally I feel like I've invested quite a lot into this season emotionally so whether I'm there or not, this counts big time for our club.
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    I'm sure I speak for the rest of us in saying I'm delighted for the OP. FFS!

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    If I was told that if I didn't attend a Scottish Cup Final then Hibs would win it I would take that without hesitation.

    I could live with that quite happily for the rest of my life in that my mates and fellow supporters would have seen it live, I would buy the DVD and other items so I could have my own wee souveniers.

    Suppose from my angle then you were being selfish.

    On another related issue I'm not sure I could handle a Scottish Cup Final if we were winning with a few minutes to go, I could well collapse in a heap. I would definitely collapse if we lost it from there.

    The saddest bit for me on Saturday was coming out of the ground and seeing the dejected faces of guys that were either in their late seventies or eighties. There was a resigned look on their faces as if to say I'm never going to see it.

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    Its just you Lyon ..........

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    I was asked before getting on the bus to go to the game if I was nervous. In all honestly, I had to reply NO, I really had no great feeling of any emotion, which was very strange. Whilst I got a bit agitated at times during the game, (might even have thrown in a wee sweary word every now again, sorry), the result came as no surprise to me and I was nowhere near as angry as I have been so many times in the past, hardly had any emotional reaction to it at all.

    I think I am becoming immune to being booted in the bollocks by Hibs, it's happened so many times I actually expect it, build you up one week, boot you in the gonads the next, that's just being a Hibs supporter, I'm used to it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    If I was told that if I didn't attend a Scottish Cup Final then Hibs would win it I would take that without hesitation.

    I could live with that quite happily for the rest of my life in that my mates and fellow supporters would have seen it live, I would buy the DVD and other items so I could have my own wee souveniers.

    Suppose from my angle then you were being selfish.

    On another related issue I'm not sure I could handle a Scottish Cup Final if we were winning with a few minutes to go, I could well collapse in a heap. I would definitely collapse if we lost it from there.

    The saddest bit for me on Saturday was coming out of the ground and seeing the dejected faces of guys that were either in their late seventies or eighties. There was a resigned look on their faces as if to say I'm never going to see it.
    I'm the same age as you mate and I'm starting to feel like that now

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    Not quite the same, but I too will be overseas on the 30th May, i was almost hoping that Sod's Law would come into effect and we WOULD win when I couldn't be there.

    Here's to next year !

    GGTTH

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    I wasn't too gutted you could see the way the game was going to go right up until they scored, it was disappointing but it's hibs and the Scottish Cup.

    I am 32 now, we have had plenty of good opportunities to win this cup and we throw them all away, as a fan there is nothing I can do to ensure hibs will win this cup.

    Even a few years ago I still used to dream about the day we win that cup, now I think of winning cup games as a nice bonus and that's about it, I can't get carried away with anything to do with the Scottish Cup.

    I am sure in the future we will find plenty of ways to defeat ourselves out of silverware.

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    I tried to console myself with the thought that I'd now be able to attend my sons 2nd birthday party (and that I wouldn't now have the job of telling the other half that I was going to Hampden instead)!

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    I wouldn't have been able to go on May 30, but for my dad, my brother, my nieces and nephews and all the thousands like them I would have gladly given up the chance to see the jinx junked!! Was gutted on Saturday, and am really starting to feel the jinx is real...!

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    I've come to accept this as normal, I wasn't even surprised we lost. The team on Saturday could have play till next week and still not have scored, how I wish we had some steel in the team.

    There is something very wrong at Hibs that still need sorted, we are weak as club from top to bottom. Its all too nice, we have a nice ground, a nice training ground, we were nice to Butcher, Fenlon, Calderwood etc., Stubs is nice, we are nice to the opposition, we are nice to the press, we are nice to the referees, as fans we are nice, we bend over and take everything with out complaining. The BBC has slated us for years and we nice to them as well, we are nice to the SFA so Petrie can be included in the SFA gang. Dempster is nice, I though she was different but since she meekly accepted the Dumbarton game on the same day as Scotland home game proved she hasn't got the steel to fight for us, she gives wee sound bits but nothing that changes things.

    Its time we became a bunch of b****ds, we need direction from the top to change our nice attitude but we fail because there is no one there that will stand up and be counted, they are all a soft touch and just along for an easy ride, that why we get walked over time and time again.
    Until this changes we will accept high cost low level football and we will because we are all nice.

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    I actually take back half of what I said, I just watched the highlights of the game and now feel sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickShoes View Post
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    I actually take back half of what I said, I just watched the highlights of the game and now feel sick.
    I don't think I could do that to myself! Still feel sick after the game.

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    Nah, for me that was as sickening as any Hampden defeat.

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    I've come to accept this as normal, I wasn't even surprised we lost. The team on Saturday could have play till next week and still not have scored, how I wish we had some steel in the team.

    There is something very wrong at Hibs that still need sorted, we are weak as club from top to bottom. Its all too nice, we have a nice ground, a nice training ground, we were nice to Butcher, Fenlon, Calderwood etc., Stubs is nice, we are nice to the opposition, we are nice to the press, we are nice to the referees, as fans we are nice, we bend over and take everything with out complaining. The BBC has slated us for years and we nice to them as well, we are nice to the SFA so Petrie can be included in the SFA gang. Dempster is nice, I though she was different but since she meekly accepted the Dumbarton game on the same day as Scotland home game proved she hasn't got the steel to fight for us, she gives wee sound bits but nothing that changes things.

    Its time we became a bunch of b****ds, we need direction from the top to change our nice attitude but we fail because there is no one there that will stand up and be counted, they are all a soft touch and just along for an easy ride, that why we get walked over time and time again.
    Until this changes we will accept high cost low level football and we will because we are all nice.
    After the events of last week, are you sure about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c31 View Post
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    I've come to accept this as normal, I wasn't even surprised we lost. The team on Saturday could have play till next week and still not have scored, how I wish we had some steel in the team.

    There is something very wrong at Hibs that still need sorted, we are weak as club from top to bottom. Its all too nice, we have a nice ground, a nice training ground, we were nice to Butcher, Fenlon, Calderwood etc., Stubs is nice, we are nice to the opposition, we are nice to the press, we are nice to the referees, as fans we are nice, we bend over and take everything with out complaining. The BBC has slated us for years and we nice to them as well, we are nice to the SFA so Petrie can be included in the SFA gang. Dempster is nice, I though she was different but since she meekly accepted the Dumbarton game on the same day as Scotland home game proved she hasn't got the steel to fight for us, she gives wee sound bits but nothing that changes things.

    Its time we became a bunch of b****ds, we need direction from the top to change our nice attitude but we fail because there is no one there that will stand up and be counted, they are all a soft touch and just along for an easy ride, that why we get walked over time and time again.
    Until this changes we will accept high cost low level football and we will because we are all nice.
    Nah, I don't agree with this.

    Whether we are nice or nasty, we can turn this all around by being able to put a decent ball in the box, show a bit of composure in front of goal and defend for 90 minutes without losing concentration.

    I agree that we need to be more ruthless, but that ruthlessness only needs to improve on the park.

    The way Dempster has gone about her business with the SFA recently has been perfectly judged - assertive and demanding, standing up for our club without being unreasonable or arsey about it. And Petrie is even less popular with fans of other clubs than he is with ours so I don't think he's exactly been a pushover in the past either.

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    I don't know if it's just me but there seems to be an awful lot of people who are not that bothered we lost a cup semi to Falkirk. I don't care if we're a championship club, we should never accept losing to Falkirk in a cup semi. I understand that people might not want to dwell on the defeat given that we have a big game on Wednesday, but it seems more than that to me. Apathy could end up being our downfall.

    United we stand here....

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    I spent the whole month in advance knowing on the 30th I'd be in Liverpool at a mates stag. Thought it would dilute the whole experience and act as a silver lining. Did it hell.

    The lost income hurts as much to be honest.

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    I still feel absolutely gutted.

    I think I want to blame someone / something. But it's not like we were outplayed or didn't show up or a bad referee decision (apart from his great break up play). We played well enough (could have done better obviously) and got beat by a sucker punch.

    Watched the Arsenal match - and they get a flukey goal, we get Farid's flukey effort not quite going in. Watched Celtc score off the post, we get an off the post that stays out.

    Was there with a non Hibs friend who was saying that there's only one team going to win this after 70ish minutes. I did explain that Falkirk would score in 87 minutes and this is Hibs etc - he didn't believe me (he does now).

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    Same boat as the OP. Put spin on it immediately, all the money I'd save not going to the final, etc.

    But that was just front, I'd have loved a chance to have a shot at ICT.

    Ho hum onto the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    I don't know if it's just me but there seems to be an awful lot of people who are not that bothered we lost a cup semi to Falkirk. I don't care if we're a championship club, we should never accept losing to Falkirk in a cup semi. I understand that people might not want to dwell on the defeat given that we have a big game on Wednesday, but it seems more than that to me. Apathy could end up being our downfall.
    On this point, how does one go about refusing to accept losing to Falkirk in a cup semi final?

    It happened, I wasn't happy about it but I'm not sure how I can do anything other than accepting it. If I say I'm not accepting it, what happens next?

    Are you suggesting some form of action to show that it wasn't acceptable? What would work?
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    This has gone a little bit off course.

    Hopefully it was clear that, from a footballing performance point of view, I was as disappointed as - almost - anyone (perhaps excluding the 17,000 Hibs fans who attended the game, as there's nothing quite like being there to really sharpen up the feelings after another Hampden disappointment)

    Losing to Falkirk (or FalkIRk as the guy on the telly insists on accentuating it) is never acceptable. End of discussion.

    However, as I felt a bit weird not being totally gutted as it meant there wouldn't be a SC Final for me to miss (gloryhunter alert: high I accept), I was just wondering if any Hibbies, far-flung or not, would have found themselves in the same set of cirumstances as me and how they felt when they found out we'd lost.

    Clearly, people at the game or ST holders etc etc are not and never would have been in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    Its just you Lyon ..........
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    I don't know if it's just me but there seems to be an awful lot of people who are not that bothered we lost a cup semi to Falkirk. I don't care if we're a championship club, we should never accept losing to Falkirk in a cup semi. I understand that people might not want to dwell on the defeat given that we have a big game on Wednesday, but it seems more than that to me. Apathy could end up being our downfall.
    Refusing to accept. ...how do I do this??? I would like to know.

    Also, reading this post and other posts...would you have went to final if we won. Because not in a month of Sundays SHOULD a SPL team lose a Scottish cup final to a lower division team. No...of course you would go because upsets happen. IT beat celtic, villa beat Liverpool. Reading very nearly frightened Arsenal. It happens more in football than any other team sport in the world, underdogs beat the favourites. Why bookies rake it in because of it.

    People starving, food banks on the rise and inequality at an all time high.

    But nah, I shouldn't accept hibs dominating a game and getting beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonhibs View Post
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    Nae worries mate ... I get where you are coming from really. Anybody who makes the effort to come all the way from Switzerland to watch Hibs cannae be all bad

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    I expect nothing from Hibs anymore and still get let down. Bottled it in every big game I've seen us play. I didn't really feel angry or sad on Saturday, I think I've become immune from so much experience. I've decided not to renew my ST as I'm feeling incredibly apathetic towards the club right now, and I suspect I'm not the only one in that boat.

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