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    Safe Standing at Games

    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.


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    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.
    Poor wee soul having to stand up for 90 minutes and your legs are sore

    Go back 20 years and the atmosphere was 100 times better because you weren't sitting on your hands. Mind you I don't miss having my legs pished on by by some pissed up man behind me these days.

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    I like standing at a game and have enjoyed the likes of Alloa and Cowdenbeath this season but I can't get on the safe standing bandwagon.

    The money for that would have to come from somewhere and if I had the choice between ripping seats out of ER and installing barriers or a 20 goal a season striker then it's a no brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarty27 View Post
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    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.
    We had to stand every match so i suppose our legs were stronger than the big girls poor wee legs these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarty27 View Post
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    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.
    Until you've experienced a game where it's packed and you're standing up in a great atmosphere, then you're not really going to get it. The away days this season don't compare to some of the real big games. I remember when we equalised in the League cup final against Rangers at Parkhead, I was near the back but by the time the celebrations finished I was at the front.

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    The attraction of standing was that - say you were stuck next to a radge, or you wanted to move to get a better view of the game, or go and talk to some mates you met at the pie stand, you could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarty27 View Post
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    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.
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    Sitting is for me too now, but I support the idea of a standing area as it would definitely improve the atmosphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Sitting is for me too now, but I support the idea of a standing area as it would definitely improve the atmosphere.
    And delay the inevitable tragedy that is coming if people continue to stand in seated areas. There are no crush barriers and it's a matter of time till there is a big fall somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    And delay the inevitable tragedy that is coming if people continue to stand in seated areas. There are no crush barriers and it's a matter of time till there is a big fall somewhere.
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    I like standing at a game and have enjoyed the likes of Alloa and Cowdenbeath this season but I can't get on the safe standing bandwagon.

    The money for that would have to come from somewhere and if I had the choice between ripping seats out of ER and installing barriers or a 20 goal a season striker then it's a no brainer.
    But what if a standing area increases attendance? ER is rarely full - a safe standing area could put some of that spare capacity to good use. Hardly a 'no brainer' at all.

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    There are no crush barriers and it's a matter of time till there is a big fall somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomoseven View Post
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    But what if a standing area increases attendance? ER is rarely full - a safe standing area could put some of that spare capacity to good use. Hardly a 'no brainer' at all.
    Not against standing. But average attendances increased when all seated stadia were introduced.

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    But what if a standing area increases attendance? ER is rarely full - a safe standing area could put some of that spare capacity to good use. Hardly a 'no brainer' at all.
    Are there really people refusing to attend games because they can't stand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    And delay the inevitable tragedy that is coming if people continue to stand in seated areas. There are no crush barriers and it's a matter of time till there is a big fall somewhere.

    Whats your view on the folk that stand in section 43, should they be made to sit down? I personally think they should be moved to behind the goal in the FF.

    I have seen us have a full stand at Kilmarnock and tynecastle where everyone stand, i have also seen us wildly celebrate goals in those stadiums without any tragedies.

    As long as there are only the correct amount of fans in each area, the days of overcrowding and folk being squashed together are over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Whats your view on the folk that stand in section 43, should they be made to sit down? I personally think they should be moved to behind the goal in the FF.

    I have seen us have a full stand at Kilmarnock and tynecastle where everyone stand, i have also seen us wildly celebrate goals in those stadiums without any tragedies.

    As long as there are only the correct amount of fans in each area, the days of overcrowding and folk being squashed together are over.
    I think the lower tier in one of the other stands, should be a designated standing area, with proper crush barriers.

    It doesn't sit easy with me people standing and jumping around in these steep stands. I do take your point that it hasn't been a problem so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Are there really people refusing to attend games because they can't stand?

    Maybe be one or two but I doubt there's enough not attending to boost the attendance significantly.

    I very much support the idea of safe standing areas at grounds. Would love to see the FFL converted to safe standing. I would get my season ticket in there if it was converted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    Not against standing. But average attendances increased when all seated stadia were introduced.

    Take into account the skimming that was going on at the turnstiles. In the days before tickets etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Are there really people refusing to attend games because they can't stand?
    I wouldn't think so.
    It's just another excuse like Petrie and the food etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarty27 View Post
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    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.
    If you ever experienced the old east with standing or the main stand enclosure you would understand the wish to get it to return.
    Safe standing in a section if the east or north has to be worth a trial.
    Always made for a better atmosphere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    Take into account the skimming that was going on at the turnstiles. In the days before tickets etc.
    It's probably a blatant lie*. But there is a story that a former chairman of Hibs had one turnstile where the proceeds went direct to him, and didn't count towards the attendance.


    *it's not a lie, but I don't like to upset the dewy eyed youngsters who hold this man in reverence as if he was Jesus. He wasn't Jesus, he was just a fella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    It's probably a blatant lie*. But there is a story that a former chairman of Hibs had one turnstile where the proceeds went direct to him, and didn't count towards the attendance.


    *it's not a lie, but I don't like to upset the dewy eyed youngsters who hold this man in reverence as if he was Jesus. He wasn't Jesus, he was just a fella.

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    Morning chaps, my legs are still tight as two coats of paint and I didn't enjoy the game anymore than I would sitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarty27 View Post
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    This may be a generation thing, I am 30 and most of my football memories are of sitting down watching football.

    Since we have been relegated I have been to QOS x2, Alloa x2, Cowdenbeath x2 and stood and watched and I just don't see the love in for it.

    I'd much rather watch Hibs in the nice comfy seats in the east. I came home last night and my legs were in bits!!

    Not sure of the obsession for it tbh.
    Haha what a sap. I am a 34 year old out of shape woman! And I love the standing. Gives the calf muscles a good work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarty27 View Post
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    Morning chaps, my legs are still tight as two coats of paint and I didn't enjoy the game anymore than I would sitting.
    You've had nearly 24 hours to think about this. I think it's fair play to call you a sap now.

    What was the problem, were you not able to find a place for your tartan rug, or was it that you didn't know where to put your flask.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Albanian Hibs View Post
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    Haha what a sap. I am a 34 year old out of shape woman! And I love the standing. Gives the calf muscles a good work out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D. Rolls View Post
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    You've had nearly 24 hours to think about this. I think it's fair play to call you a sap now.

    What was the problem, were you not able to find a place for your tartan rug, or was it that you didn't know where to put your flask.


    Plenty crush barriers to hang the rug over and put the flask on

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