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    Scottish Premiership play-offs

    So Hibs, Falkirk and QOS still have the possibility of reaching a Scottish Cup final and the SFA release the Scottish Premiership play-offs schedule? The Scottish Cup final is on Saturday 30th May and the Play-off final on 31st May. So does anyone know what the Play-off schedule will look like if Hibs and/or Falkirk and/or QOS make it to the final? I take it all the games of the Play-off's will be squeezed together and played in May and being completed on Saturday 23rd?

    Saturday May 9
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 1st leg
    Wednesday May 13
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 2nd leg
    Saturday May 16
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    Saturday May 23
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    Thursday May 28
    Premiership play-off final, 1st leg
    Sunday May 31
    Premiership play-off final, 2nd leg


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn Sandwich View Post
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    So Hibs, Falkirk and QOS still have the possibility of reaching a Scottish Cup final and the SFA release the Scottish Premiership play-offs schedule? The Scottish Cup final is on Saturday 30th May and the Play-off final on 31st May. So does anyone know what the Play-off schedule will look like if Hibs and/or Falkirk and/or QOS make it to the final? I take it all the games of the Play-off's will be squeezed together and played in May and being completed on Saturday 23rd?

    Saturday May 9
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 1st leg
    Wednesday May 13
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 2nd leg
    Saturday May 16
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    Saturday May 23
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    Thursday May 28
    Premiership play-off final, 1st leg
    Sunday May 31
    Premiership play-off final, 2nd leg

    More than likely run into June for the final play off matches.

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    No need for concern. Rangers are out the cup and have been appointed as championship play-off Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    No need for concern. Rangers are out the cup and have been appointed as championship play-off Club.
    That's what it seems like to me. 😉

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    Knowing the absolute clueslessness of those who run the game up here it wouldn't surprise me if there was any conflict a club being made to choose between the SC and a play off place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn Sandwich View Post
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    So Hibs, Falkirk and QOS still have the possibility of reaching a Scottish Cup final and the SFA release the Scottish Premiership play-offs schedule? The Scottish Cup final is on Saturday 30th May and the Play-off final on 31st May. So does anyone know what the Play-off schedule will look like if Hibs and/or Falkirk and/or QOS make it to the final? I take it all the games of the Play-off's will be squeezed together and played in May and being completed on Saturday 23rd?

    Saturday May 9
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 1st leg
    Wednesday May 13
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 2nd leg
    Saturday May 16
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    Saturday May 23
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    Thursday May 28
    Premiership play-off final, 1st leg
    Sunday May 31
    Premiership play-off final, 2nd leg
    The SFA have SFA to do with the SPFL play-offs.

    However, one would think that the SPFL admin pricks would wander down the corridor at Hampden and ask their counterpart pricks... "ehhh..... who's left in the diddy Cup, by the way?"

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    I expected to have had more midweek games this season than we've had. If they gave us 2 or 3 more midweek league fixtures this would bring the end of the season earlier and fix this problem.

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    Season running into June and the first Europa League games first week of July. Magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Season running into June and the first Europa League games first week of July. Magic.
    Dont think so. To qualify for Europe we have to win the cup. Think we'd be playing around 16th July

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Dont think so. To qualify for Europe we have to win the cup. Think we'd be playing around 16th July
    Celtic beat us in the final and they win the league do we not go in a round earlier as cup runners up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Celtic beat us in the final and they win the league do we not go in a round earlier?
    Not this year, would go to 4th in the premiership, if Celtic win the League and the cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Not this year, would go to 4th in the premiership, if Celtic win the League and the cup

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    Accordig to spfl site runners up do qualify

    http://spfl.co.uk/spfl/europe-201415/

    The entry of Scottish clubs to UEFA’s club competitions for Season 2014/15 is determined by reference to the UEFA Country Ranking at the end of Season 2012/13.

    At that time, Scotland was ranked 24. This provides access for three clubs through their Scottish Professional Football League position at the end of this Season and one club through this Season’s Scottish Cup.

    As a result of that ranking, Scottish entrants to UEFA’s competitions for 2014/15 will be as follows:

    Scottish Premiership Champions
    Champions League qualifying round 2 (Champions pathway)

    Scottish Cup winners
    Europa League qualifying round 2

    Scottish Premiership runners-up
    Europa League qualifying round 2

    Scottish Premiership third place
    Europa League qualifying round 1

    In the event that the Scottish Cup winners have qualified for the Champions League, the Scottish Cup runners-up will qualify for the Europa League but will enter at qualifying round 1. If this happens, then the Scottish Premiership third place club will enter the Europa League at qualifying round 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    Accordig to spfl site runners up do qualify

    http://spfl.co.uk/spfl/europe-201415/

    The entry of Scottish clubs to UEFA’s club competitions for Season 2014/15 is determined by reference to the UEFA Country Ranking at the end of Season 2012/13.

    At that time, Scotland was ranked 24. This provides access for three clubs through their Scottish Professional Football League position at the end of this Season and one club through this Season’s Scottish Cup.

    As a result of that ranking, Scottish entrants to UEFA’s competitions for 2014/15 will be as follows:

    Scottish Premiership Champions
    Champions League qualifying round 2 (Champions pathway)

    Scottish Cup winners
    Europa League qualifying round 2

    Scottish Premiership runners-up
    Europa League qualifying round 2

    Scottish Premiership third place
    Europa League qualifying round 1

    In the event that the Scottish Cup winners have qualified for the Champions League, the Scottish Cup runners-up will qualify for the Europa League but will enter at qualifying round 1. If this happens, then the Scottish Premiership third place club will enter the Europa League at qualifying round 2.
    So I've been taking ****
    I thought the rule had changed this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    So I've been taking ****
    I thought the rule had changed this season?
    Think Platini is keen to build up Cup competitions and is the driving force.

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    Accordig to spfl site runners up do qualify

    http://spfl.co.uk/spfl/europe-201415/

    The entry of Scottish clubs to UEFA’s club competitions for Season 2014/15 is determined by reference to the UEFA Country Ranking at the end of Season 2012/13.

    At that time, Scotland was ranked 24. This provides access for three clubs through their Scottish Professional Football League position at the end of this Season and one club through this Season’s Scottish Cup.

    As a result of that ranking, Scottish entrants to UEFA’s competitions for 2014/15 will be as follows:

    Scottish Premiership Champions
    Champions League qualifying round 2 (Champions pathway)

    Scottish Cup winners
    Europa League qualifying round 2

    Scottish Premiership runners-up
    Europa League qualifying round 2

    Scottish Premiership third place
    Europa League qualifying round 1

    In the event that the Scottish Cup winners have qualified for the Champions League, the Scottish Cup runners-up will qualify for the Europa League but will enter at qualifying round 1. If this happens, then the Scottish Premiership third place club will enter the Europa League at qualifying round 2.
    We`re talking about 2015/16 here. As for play off dates doubt police would be happy about 3 days`notice for a Hibs v Rangers .

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    So I've been taking ****
    I thought the rule had changed this season?
    The rules are changing from next season.

    http://www.uefa.org/about-uefa/execu...d=1999120.html

    Cup runners up will no longer qualify for Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    The rules are changing from next season.

    http://www.uefa.org/about-uefa/execu...d=1999120.html

    Cup runners up will no longer qualify for Europe.
    So I wasn't talking ****

    I actually agree with this. Should be given to league placings

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    So do we know for sure when the Scottush Cup winners actually play their first game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    So do we know for sure when the Scottush Cup winners actually play their first game?
    Try and work it our for us. Our co-efficient is 23


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_UEFA_Europa_League

    Edit, looks like 2nd qualifying round on 16th/23rd July, think we might be away 1st!
    All hypothetical at this stage
    Last edited by Billy Whizz; 01-03-2015 at 08:34 PM.

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    So do we know for sure when the Scottush Cup winners actually play their first game?
    They would enter at the second qualifying round stage and the first leg would be 16th July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Try and work it our for us. Our co-efficient is 23


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_UEFA_Europa_League

    Edit, looks like 2nd qualifying round on 16th/23rd July, think we might be away 1st!
    All hypothetical at this stage
    No wonder football is in a mess. Looks like you need a lawyer to work that out. lol I'll worry about it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    They would enter at the second qualifying round stage and the first leg would be 16th July.

    That would be good. I'm on holidays then. Long way away from that and only a very slim chance of that happening anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    So I wasn't talking ****

    I actually agree with this. Should be given to league placings

    Oops I am a

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    Interesting bit in the Sun today from Bill Leckie. Laying into the SPFL about the dates for the play offs. Suggesting that they don't think any of the Championship sides will get to the Scottish Cup Final, or Rangers are a stick on for the play off final.
    The interesting think from the article, in his opinion, the play offs can't go past 31st May as players could be out of contract that day. The simplest way would be to end the premiership season, bottom 6 a bit earlier. Maybe they will look at that if any one of the sides get to the Cup Final/play off final. Will also disadvantage the championship club who will have 2 play 2 games a week before a major final
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    When I was involved in youth football the reason why the season had to end in May was the cooncil took the posts doon...maybe that's it ;-)

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    Was at the 'Hibernian tunnel' tour at Easter road last night and this was brought up to Stubbs during the Q&A, he said that hibs actually had to bring this up to the SPFL who gave an answer along the lines of 'well it might not happen'... Funnily enough both he and George Craig wouldn't be surprised if they made us or Falkirk/QOS play Thursday Saturday Sunday.. But hoped, obviously, that common sense prevailed... Meeting have been taking place with clubs this week regarding this also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Interesting bit in the Sun today from Bill Leckie. Laying into the SPFL about the dates for the play offs. Suggesting that they don't think any of the Championship sides will get to the Scottish Cup Final, or Rangers are a stick on for the play off final.
    The interesting think from the article, in his opinion, the play offs can't go past 31st May as players could be out of contract that day. The simplest way would be to end the premiership season, bottom 6 a bit earlier. Maybe they will look at that if any one of the sides get to the Cup Final/play off final. Will also disadvantage the championship club who will have 2 play 2 games a week before a major final
    Okay, who knows which of our players are either out of contract or have their loan expire on 31st May?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupppa Lu Cha View Post
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    Okay, who knows which of our players are either out of contract or have their loan expire on 31st May?
    I'm not sure anyone will know other than what's been registered with the league. We have a few players on loan, Oxley, Boyle and McGeough, and a few out of contract, Craig, Fyvie,Watson, Cerny and Fontaine.
    Someone with contacts with players agents, may have a better idea if contracts end on the 31st May or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Interesting bit in the Sun today from Bill Leckie. Laying into the SPFL about the dates for the play offs. Suggesting that they don't think any of the Championship sides will get to the Scottish Cup Final, or Rangers are a stick on for the play off final.
    The interesting think from the article, in his opinion, the play offs can't go past 31st May as players could be out of contract that day. The simplest way would be to end the premiership season, bottom 6 a bit earlier. Maybe they will look at that if any one of the sides get to the Cup Final/play off final. Will also disadvantage the championship club who will have 2 play 2 games a week before a major final
    Okay, who knows which of our players are either out of contract or have their loan expire on 31st May?

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