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    Cummings offered ban - Hibs reject offer and win!

    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=14155

    Complaint 1

    Alleged Party in Breach: Jason Cummings (Hibernian)
    Match: Heart of Midlothian v Hibernian - 3rd January 2015 (SPFL Championship)

    Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached:

    Disciplinary Rule 200: In that the above match you made an offensive gesture

    Fixed Suspension offer: Yes – one match (applied immediately with SPFL Premiership)

    Principal Hearing date: Thursday, 8th January 2015

    Mr Cummings has until 3pm on Wednesday, 7th January 2015 to respond to the complaint.


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    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=14155

    Complaint 1

    Alleged Party in Breach: Jason Cummings (Hibernian)
    Match: Heart of Midlothian v Hibernian - 3rd January 2015 (SPFL Championship)

    Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached:

    Disciplinary Rule 200: In that the above match you made an offensive gesture

    Fixed Suspension offer: Yes – one match (applied immediately with SPFL Premiership)

    Principal Hearing date: Thursday, 8th January 2015

    Mr Cummings has until 3pm on Wednesday, 7th January 2015 to respond to the complaint.
    Walker gave it the big GIRFUY arm gesture at the end of his celebration to us, not a peep of any action against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=14155

    Complaint 1

    Alleged Party in Breach: Jason Cummings (Hibernian)
    Match: Heart of Midlothian v Hibernian - 3rd January 2015 (SPFL Championship)

    Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached:

    Disciplinary Rule 200: In that the above match you made an offensive gesture

    Fixed Suspension offer: Yes – one match (applied immediately with SPFL Premiership)

    Principal Hearing date: Thursday, 8th January 2015

    Mr Cummings has until 3pm on Wednesday, 7th January 2015 to respond to the complaint.
    Was Cummings not booked at the time after his celebration.

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    Pretty sure the yellow card means the ref dealt with it on saturday.

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    I thought this wasn't allowed if the referee had already taken action at the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itslegaltender View Post
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    Walker gave it the big GIRFUY arm gesture at the end of his celebration to us, not a peep of any action against him.
    I hope Leeann Dempster goes public and mentions this, as you said he gave the GIRUY after his goal, or are the SPFL feared of the backlash from Queen B.

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    Not like the SFA to make up their own rules now is it?

    The referee booked him at the time so I believe that's the end of the matter.

    Or has that rule been changed recently?

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    Dealt with at the time, except when it wasn't. Shambolic SFA refereeing as usual, on and off the park.

    Put it this way - is a GIRUY a sending off offence? Is it ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R'Albin View Post
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    I thought this wasn't allowed if the referee had already taken action at the time?
    Perhaps booked for leaving the pitch, and the ref didn't see the girfuy, therefore that's what's being dealt with by the ban offer.

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    In the second half he was getting it tight when there was a stoppage in play and turn around and done a fat belly sign to the boy maybe that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Perhaps booked for leaving the pitch, and the ref didn't see the girfuy, therefore that's what's being dealt with by the ban offer.
    Ah didn't realise he had left the pitch. To be honest without the gesture it seems a bit harsh to book him at the time.

    Hopefully Djedje is cleared in time.

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    Probably depends what the ref put in his report as to why he was booked. If it wasn't for that gesture then that will be their way round it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Perhaps booked for leaving the pitch, and the ref didn't see the girfuy, therefore that's what's being dealt with by the ban offer.
    Unfortunately this. I didn't think the ref was going to book him til he left the pitch. Craig seemed to protest that it was his team mates momentum that caused him to go trackside. Can't see Hibs appealing. Downside of cameras being there.
    "Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire

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    Dealt with at the time, except when it wasn't. Shambolic SFA refereeing as usual, on and off the park.

    Put it this way - is a GIRUY a sending off offence? Is it ****.
    It probably is to be honest, however anything that's been seen by the referee at the time and dealt with by him cannot be dealt with retrospectively, as far as I am led to believe.

    Sending-off offences
    A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences:
    • serious foul play
    • violent conduct
    • spitting at an opponent or any other person
    • denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
    • denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick
    • using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
    • receiving a second caution in the same match

    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish....cfm?page=3605

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    What a ****ing joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    Not like the SFA to make up their own rules now is it?

    The referee booked him at the time so I believe that's the end of the matter.

    Or has that rule been changed recently?
    It's Hibs rather than the innocent put upon yam that they are dealing with here so the application of the rules have to take that into account, they are "famous" and "big".

    You never know maybe the Compliance Officer hasn't finished watching the game yet and he is still to reach Walkers gesture? I am sure he will rectify all this in the interests of the much trumpeted fair play mantra we keep hearing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    It's Hibs rather than the innocent put upon yam that they are dealing with here so the application of the rules have to take that into account, they are "famous" and "big".

    You never know maybe the Compliance Officer hasn't finished watching the game yet and he is still to reach Walkers gesture? I am sure he will rectify all this in the interests of the much trumpeted fair play mantra we keep hearing about.
    Probably couldn't see Walker's gesture from the hertz end.

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    It's Hibs rather than the innocent put upon yam that they are dealing with here so the application of the rules have to take that into account, they are "famous" and "big".

    You never know maybe the Compliance Officer hasn't finished watching the game yet and he is still to reach Walkers gesture? I am sure he will rectify all this in the interests of the much trumpeted fair play mantra we keep hearing about.
    Wasn't it mentioned a couple of years ago that anyone could contact the compliance officer if they saw something during a match that should have resulted in disciplinary action by the referee but had been missed at the time?

    Where's that e-mail address?

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    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish...1&newsID=14155

    Complaint 1

    Alleged Party in Breach: Jason Cummings (Hibernian)
    Match: Heart of Midlothian v Hibernian - 3rd January 2015 (SPFL Championship)

    Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached:

    Disciplinary Rule 200: In that the above match you made an offensive gesture

    Fixed Suspension offer: Yes – one match (applied immediately with SPFL Premiership) **

    Principal Hearing date: Thursday, 8th January 2015

    Mr Cummings has until 3pm on Wednesday, 7th January 2015 to respond to the complaint.
    So Jason is banned from his next Premiership game.

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    So Jason is banned from his next Premiership game.
    Maybe we should loan him to Dundee as well, for one game, and then recall him next week and then he's free to play on for us.

    If it's good enough for Danny Wilson.

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    Shambles. **** the sfa.

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    ludicrous to be honest. How can Cummings be handed a ban when Walker isn't? He ran 25 yards+ TO the Hibs Support, whereas Cummings was only 5 yards away, both guilty of the same thing and clear as day on TV so he should be handed the same punishment
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    What a farce!! Only in Scotland! Don't even know what league we're in! Hibs should accept with the agreement it's for the Premiership! We've obviously been playing too well recently for the Establishment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    Not like the SFA to make up their own rules now is it?

    The referee booked him at the time so I believe that's the end of the matter.

    Or has that rule been changed recently?

    2 o'clock on Saturday afternoon.


    Was Walker booked also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    2 o'clock on Saturday afternoon.


    Was Walker booked also.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AberGreen View Post
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    Yes.
    Is the wee team being stitched up here.

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    Maybe thats our punishment for bringing up the Gary Oliver situation.

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    Supposedly, Cummings got booked for the shoosh gesture to the Yams. Walker got booked for the GIRUY gesture.

    Now they want to book Cummings for his GIRUY gesture.

    Just a couple of silly boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Green View Post
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    Supposedly, Cummings got booked for the shoosh gesture to the Yams. Walker got booked for the GIRUY gesture.

    Now they want to book Cummings for his GIRUY gesture.Just a couple of silly boys.
    I understand this 'offer' to be the equivalent of a red card and therefore Cummings will have received a red and yellow card for his celebration as the yellow still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Green View Post
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    Supposedly, Cummings got booked for the shoosh gesture to the Yams. Walker got booked for the GIRUY gesture.

    Now they want to book Cummings for his GIRUY gesture.

    Just a couple of silly boys.
    If Walker only gets a yellow for the girly gesture, why does Cummings get a red.?

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