Just seen on BBC that Messi became the Spanish League's all-time top scorer with a hat trick against Sevilla in a 5-1 win.
Messi broke Telmo Zarra's (Athletic Bilbao) record of 251 goals which has stood since the 1950s. The report says Messi's goal tally (253) is even more remarkable given his goals have come in only 250 starts for Barcelona.
Earlier this month Messi drew level with Raul's all-time Champions League record of 71 goals after scoring twice in a 2-0 win over Ajax.
IMHO Messi has now joined the ranks of the all-time greats of world football.
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23-11-2014 03:50 PM #1
LionelMessi - Spanish League's all-time top scorer
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23-11-2014 03:54 PM #2
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He's just the Argentine Malonga
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23-11-2014 03:56 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I agree Messi is amazing, but do you think that Messi can join the likes of Pele and Maradona if he doesn't have a World Cup winners medal?
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23-11-2014 04:00 PM #6
There surely cannot be any argument about whether Messi as actually a great or not? Everything he has achieved in the game for his age has been unbelievable.
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What I'm trying to say is the likes of wee Nobby got a World Cup winners medal, but nobody (surely) can classify him as an all-time great. Can they?
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23-11-2014 04:20 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Did Nobby Stiles get a European Cup medal too?
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23-11-2014 04:47 PM #15
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On the flip side players like kleberson have won the world cup, so it's not an indicator of ability really is it?
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23-11-2014 08:56 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Messi undoubtedly is IMHO, Ronaldo too.HIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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23-11-2014 10:17 PM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteHIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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As others have said, some truly average players have won the World Cup but, for me, the more relevant point is that such a criteria is likely to immediately disqualify about 99% of the World's population from becoming a "football great".
If we're going to ask ridiculous questions (in that mould) which might provoke further debate, the question I'd ask is whether Argentina would have won the World Cup if you swapped Messi and Maradonas respective timelines. There's a myriad of ancillary considerations in that one, but I'd wager they would have won back-to-back tournaments in '86 and '90, as well as having a fair crack at '94.
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Still gotta recognise his genius though - if he happened to have a Spanish passport he'd have won everything.
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23-11-2014 11:18 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They are both great players, great goalscorers.
Ronaldo can't compete with Messi when it comes to the big stuff though. Whether El Classico or Champions' League finals, Messi has proven his worth to a far greater degree than Ronaldo.
Internationally both have had to deal with maybe being too good for their teams. Again though, Ronaldo seems to deal less well with the pressure from big games.
It's also fair to apply the Ashley Cole test - Ronaldo has always struggled against him, whichever strip they were wearing, meaning we've seen him start on the right and then be switched to the left, for club and country, because he's just not getting anywhere against Cole.
The point of that is that Cole has been up there as maybe the best LB in the world, during Ronaldo's career, certainly for the last ten years or so. Cole didn't own Messi in the same way though, admittedly playing him less frequently.
For me, Messi has shown far more at a greater and higher level than Ronaldo.There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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23-11-2014 11:44 PM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Malonga had scored five goals since Messi's last league goal prior to Saturday night.
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24-11-2014 06:37 AM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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What did he say about Garrincha? (I dunno btw but my father in law like many of his generation rate him better than Pele)"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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24-11-2014 12:12 PM #30
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The best there's ever been and the best there ever will be.
... in my opinion of course
Enjoy him while you can.
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