Pep Guardiola: "I loathe all that passing for the sake of it, all that tiki-taka. It's so much rubbish and has no purpose. You have to pass the ball with a clear intention, with the aim of making it into the opposition's goal. It's not about passing for the sake of it."
"Don't believe what people say. Barça didn't do tiki-taka! It's completely made up! Don't believe a word of it! In all team sports, the secret is to overload one side of the pitch so that the opponent must tilt its own defence to cope. You overload on one side and draw them in so that they leave the other side weak.
"And when we've done all that, we attack and score from the other side. That's why you have to pass the ball, but only if you're doing it with a clear intention. It's only to overload the opponent, to draw them in and then to hit them with the sucker punch. That's what our game needs to be. Nothing to do with tiki-taka."
Says it all, really.
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Thread: Pep on tiki-taka
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16-10-2014 08:40 AM #1
Pep on tiki-taka
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16-10-2014 12:00 PM #2
His Barca team was simply brilliant to watch. When they were at their best they were near unplayable. I think it will be a long time before I see a team as good as the Barca of 09-11 tbh.
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16-10-2014 12:24 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Pep is right though, they didn't pass the ball for the sake of it. It was all about inflicting crushing levels of pressure on opponents who end up chasing shadows, exhausted and demoralized and invariably cracked.
His Bayern team play similarly.
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16-10-2014 02:15 PM #4
Agreed - when they beat Madrid 5v0 - 29 /11/2010 (game on youtube) was one of the best team displays I've ever seen.
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16-10-2014 02:45 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Also, sometimes they DID pass the ball for the sake of it, and nothing wrong with that if you retain possession. The opponent can't score a goal without the ball.
Why is he keen to disown tiki taka? He is credited with helping to define a footballing philosophy - not many coaches ever achieve that! Pep clearly knows his onions but the guy comes across as a bit of a radge.
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16-10-2014 09:47 PM #6
Clearly Pep has never watched us tika-taka our way through Cowdenbeath at home. Would the 2010 Barca have scored two late goals to win such a game? Guess we will never know
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16-10-2014 10:44 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The fact that other teams eventually figured out a way to frustrate the system - an inevitability that has happened to every great footballing side that hasn't already declined all by itself - hardly invalidates the achievements.
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16-10-2014 11:31 PM #11
Hampden 1960. European Cup Final.
Real Madrid 7 Eintracht Frankfurt 3
Best I saw by a long way. Apologies for being old enough to have been there
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17-10-2014 07:21 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-10-2014 09:36 AM #14
I think the ''almost as bad as hoofball'' shout was intended as dull to watch at times rather than slating the style, which i tend to agree with. At times, especialy towards the end of peps reign, they were all pass and not enough end product, look at the game at celtic park for example. 75% possession and 1 goal. But what a team they were when they were at their peak, scary
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17-10-2014 10:27 AM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Considering a few of that Madrid side are deid now and the rest about 80 years old.
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17-10-2014 11:30 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Although there are still wonderfully attacking teams, so much of the magic of the game has been lost thanks to one forward up, parking the bus, etc. We can never go back, obviously, but if you ever watched a five man forward line all surge forward together (in a way that would be suicidal today) then you would never say that modern tactics have improved the game. They've just changed it. For the worse in my nostalgic opinion.
Off for a wee lie down now.
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17-10-2014 03:45 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-10-2014 03:50 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Mind you, Gordon Smith could have shown that Messi a trick or two...
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17-10-2014 05:17 PM #20
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18-10-2014 12:50 AM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm a purist. If I was being honest I would rather my team managed the possession and kept the ball all game in a nil-nil than won by a long ball that produced a goal. Not because I don't want to win, but simply because if you commit your team to playing good football then you stick with that, and eventually you will win more than you draw and lose, by playing football properly.
You accept a loss if you played okay, even if you could have got a goal playing direct and you relish the interplay that you get from stressing the 'pass and move' and seeing that work.
At pro senior level it's different, the pressures are different and unfortunately it feels like few coaches are willing to risk playing a positive, possession-based game.
I guess it's why we lose the likes of Ian Cathro to our game.There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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