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    Craig and Robertson

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    Both should've been punted after last season. Worst central midfield pairing ever.

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    Stanton scores 3 midweek

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    I concur...if we are playing 352 then Robertson sits and the rest go forward. Henceforth, Craig doesn't start. I'd start Stanton or Allen over Craig and ask, whoever does start, and McGeouch to flood forward and leave Robertson to sit. We cannot break down teams that sit in because, whilst we push forward, we never get enough players in and around the box in the right places. Great flooding forward on wings to cross but if you have the equivalent of 3 sitting midfielders then its utterly pointless.

    We've looked better with 352 but centrally we have far too many sitters...I actually think having Griffiths for 1-2 years has set us back bizarrely because it seems like our players are used to being able to boot the ball to 1 player to do the rest (run past 3-4 and shoot from 30 yards and score). Passing and movement is better than last year, no doubt and Stevenson is looking the player he is! However, passing it to a Hibs player is but a start and they need to learn how to play through balls, absolutely everything is in front of the opposition.

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    Both should've been punted after last season. Worst central midfield pairing ever.
    This. I find it astonishing they get paired together. Can't pass, tackle or shoot which is essential for a CM. Robertson always takes the easy option too

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    Craig, captain? Leader? you're having a laugh. More sideways passes than Barry Ferguson and Ray Wilkins combined.

    Robertson, just as poor.

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    Stubbs needs to pick who are the best players on match day not training day.

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    For Liam Craig's sake, a transfer should be in place for 01/01/15.

    Retirement should be in place for Robertson.

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    What does Robertson actually do apart from foul opposition players and mis contol a football . Craig should have been punted . Why no Allan today?

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    Slow and slower, pish and pisher, coward and cowarder......

    A classic double act in the making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banchoryhibs View Post
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    Craig, captain? Leader? you're having a laugh. More sideways passes than Barry Ferguson and Ray Wilkins combined.

    Robertson, just as poor.
    I agree - not a leader, not inspiring.

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    I had high hopes that Liam Craig would be a good signing for Hibs, but it's just not happening. That's putting it very mildly.

    That's the second match in a row where Stubbs has substituted his captain (Craig). Something a manager should never do IMHO unless the player is injured. The captain should be on the pitch, driving his team on.

    I'll say it again, Hibs are a club with no strong leadership, both on and off the pitch. Until that is rectified this club is going nowhere.

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    Surprised Craig wasn't moved into the back three after the injury with Allan or Stanton coming on instead of Kennedy. Stevenson was far more effective down the left than Kennedy , pity there was no one in the team capable of getting on the end of one of his crosses or should I say prepared to challenge to win a header.

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    Slow and slower, pish and pisher, coward and cowarder......

    A classic double act in the making.
    Agree completely. Craig never looks to take responsibility, a coward of a player and the fact he is captain only makes the issue more incredible. Two holding midfielders against Dumbarton today is mind boggling. Allan was the best of the bunch last week and should have started.

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    Surprised Craig wasn't moved into the back three after the injury with Allan or Stanton coming on instead of Kennedy. Stevenson was far more effective down the left than Kennedy , pity there was no one in the team capable of getting on the end of one of his crosses or should I say prepared to challenge to win a header.
    Our players specialise in allowing the other team to get to the ball first.Nobody ever tries to come across an opponent to connect with the ball.Also what happened to the hard low cross behind a defence almost impossible to defend.We had umpteen corners were players had headers-not one on target-what's the point in coming up if you can't work the goalie.

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    Surprised Craig wasn't moved into the back three after the injury with Allan or Stanton coming on instead of Kennedy. Stevenson was far more effective down the left than Kennedy , pity there was no one in the team capable of getting on the end of one of his crosses or should I say prepared to challenge to win a header.

    Have to say that i see the other way, I thought Louies final ball was abysmal all day, in fact it is something he is guilty of most weeks. He did great today getting into fantastic positions, but when the final ball is that poor he would be as well sitting beside me.

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    I was a big fan of Robertson last season but he is having an utter abomination of a season this year. How he is getting in the starting 11 actually beggars belief. Stanton, Handling, Allan, Kennedy sitting twiddling their thumbs whilst Robertson runs about banging into folk, giving away fouls and suffering from weekly bouts of cramp

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    When you play two attacking midfielders as holding midfielders, what do you expect?

    We have NO ONE that is suited to the formation Stubbs wants to play.

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    Robertsons seems to be untouchable. A lot of the fans don't seem to notice his lack of contribution either, instead directing their anger at Craig.

    In 2 seasons I don't think I've seen a glimpse of decentness from Robertson. What does he bring? It's not goals, creativity or a final ball. It's not defensive duties either?

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    Robertsons seems to be untouchable. A lot of the fans don't seem to notice his lack of contribution either, instead directing their anger at Craig.

    In 2 seasons I don't think I've seen a glimpse of decentness from Robertson. What does he bring? It's not goals, creativity or a final ball. It's not defensive duties either?
    Totally agree.

    I've asked the question on here at least 10 times about what he brings to the team and I'm yet to get an answer.

    He is utter garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby View Post
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    Have to say that i see the other way, I thought Louies final ball was abysmal all day, in fact it is something he is guilty of most weeks. He did great today getting into fantastic positions, but when the final ball is that poor he would be as well sitting beside me.
    Abysmal is maybe a bit strong , but Kennedys service was no better and arguably worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Abysmal is maybe a bit strong , but Kennedys service was no better and arguably worse.
    Big fan of Kennedy, but I agree, his final ball was absolutely minging today. Straight into the keepers hands every time

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    Abysmal is maybe a bit strong , but Kennedys service was no better and arguably worse.

    I actually used stronger adjectives at the game. It really is the part of his game he needs to work at. He himself must be disapointed with the quality of his final ball.

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    Unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that our squad is just garbage. Really fed up.

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    Big fan of Kennedy, but I agree, his final ball was absolutely minging today. Straight into the keepers hands every time
    Kennedy was our best player before he was dropped, he has been out of the loop for a good few weeks now, can't still be match fit.

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    There's nothing constructive that can be said about this pair anymore. Chance after chance they've been given. They are not good enough. This is the team the board has given us until January. One which we were told was aiming to win this league.

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    Allan and Stanton please.

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    There cannot be a person on this site who watched this pair last season thinks they should still be at the club, let alone starting games together.

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    In 2008 under Mixu we sometimes had a central midfield partnership of Joe Keenan and Ross Chisholm. (Although Rankin was the usual starter). That has to be the worst middle two I can think of, unless anyone else can think of another?

    But Craig and Robertson are almost as bad. Don't seem to know where each other are. Ever.

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    You are playing a team from the bottom of the league, you badly need a goal, so you make 3 subs, taking on three players with a combined goal tally of zero for the season, leaving a player who scored 3 good goals less than four days ago on the bench.

    Utterly speechless!!

    Perhaps we should to get the person who managed to eradicate the half time seagull problem to pick the team they seem to know what they are diing

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