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    Warning flag debate. Mate has asked me to take his large banner - Lest we forget... Hearts did not pay for their poppies - to the upcoming derby. Previously, it was taken down at the Oct derby last year but he has email confirmation from the club that it is ok to do so.

    Feel it should be flown as such issue, IMO, we have been too soft on with The Hearts showing once again that crime does indeed pay.

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    Not a fan of using this kind of material to get at them. Would rather just beat them on the pitch and then give it tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenArmyyy! View Post
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    Not a fan of using this kind of material to get at them. Would rather just beat them on the pitch and then give it tight.
    Would quite happily see both, to be fair.
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    I think, given how much they play on the glorious dead, it is fully justified for us, or any other club, to publicly show our feelings towards their hypocrisy.

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    Both for me as well, they got away with it virtually scot-free and take great joy in rubbing it in the faces of the people they robbed.

    Heinous club and fans.

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    As much as I feel it's an issue that should be highlighted much more than it currently is, I think certainly using the "lest we forget" phrasing is, at best, in poor taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancashireHibby View Post
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    As much as I feel it's an issue that should be highlighted much more than it currently is, I think certainly using the "lest we forget" phrasing is, at best, in poor taste.
    Agree, you didnae pay for your poppies would suffice. I take every opportunity to highlight this so long as the double standards exist.

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    Do we really need to use remembrance for point scoring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _hucks_ View Post
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    Do we really need to use remembrance for point scoring?
    Agree, the problem is that the Yam have claimed it in a smug self congratulatory way which is not consistent with their recent deeds so its hard to blame anyone looking to highlight the hypocrisy

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    Fine by me. Nothing wrong with highlighting Hertz nasty recent history.
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    Fine by me. Nothing wrong with highlighting Hertz nasty recent history.
    Too right.
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    Pretty much anything that gets it up those perverts is fine with me.

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    Don't have anything against such a banner as such, although I do find the recent oneupsmanship from both sides around poppies etc a bit distasteful, but you just know the press will paint us as the disresepctful bad guys if it happens.

    Best left alone imo as they did, eventually, have the poppy bill paid for them.
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    Any other year but this one IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancashireHibby View Post
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    As much as I feel it's an issue that should be highlighted much more than it currently is, I think certainly using the "lest we forget" phrasing is, at best, in poor taste.
    That`s my view on it too.

    A banner with a list of all the people they shafted would come across better and make a much bigger point imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Don't have anything against such a banner as such, although I do find the recent oneupsmanship from both sides around poppies etc a bit distasteful, but you just know the press will paint us as the disresepctful bad guys if it happens.

    Best left alone imo as they did, eventually, have the poppy bill paid for them.
    The macraes battalion trust were a creditor as well I believe (?) Did the money that was resting in the yams accounts on admin ever reach them then?

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    Would rather we just beat them tbh. Think it's a bit trivial to be honest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious St Pat View Post
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    Warning flag debate. Mate has asked me to take his large banner - Lest we forget... Hearts did not pay for their poppies - to the upcoming derby. Previously, it was taken down at the Oct derby last year but he has email confirmation from the club that it is ok to do so.

    Feel it should be flown as such issue, IMO, we have been too soft on with The Hearts showing once again that crime does indeed pay.

    Thoughts?
    IMO, it's definitely not in good taste to use war sacrifices for point scoring, no matter how low the other side sunk.
    We should be above that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    IMO, it's definitely not in good taste to use war sacrifices for point scoring, no matter how low the other side sunk.
    We should be above that.
    Agree with this. Nobody looking in is going to sympathise with the message in the banner here.

    If the point of the banner is to highlight the fact that Hearts got away with some shameless shafting of a great many people, charities etc. then this won`t work - the debate will be all about whether or not the banner is in good taste, not what it says. A better way to do it would be to have a large number of small banners/signs with the name of each company who was shafted and the amount they were owed and have different people hold them up around the stadium. The list is so long that it would turn into a full stadium display... That`s a massive task though and nobody`s going to do it.

    When all`s said and done, probably best to just leave it (all imho).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    Agree with this. Nobody looking in is going to sympathise with the message in the banner here.

    If the point of the banner is to highlight the fact that Hearts got away with some shameless shafting of a great many people, charities etc. then this won`t work - the debate will be all about whether or not the banner is in good taste, not what it says. A better way to do it would be to have a large number of small banners/signs with the name of each company who was shafted and the amount they were owed and have different people hold them up around the stadium. The list is so long that it would turn into a full stadium display... That`s a massive task though and nobody`s going to do it.

    When all`s said and done, probably best to just leave it (all imho).
    Everyone knows what they have done, let's just get a team on the park to stuff it right up them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancashireHibby View Post
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    As much as I feel it's an issue that should be highlighted much more than it currently is, I think certainly using the "lest we forget" phrasing is, at best, in poor taste.
    Definitely agree that the use of that phrase isn't the best. In fact, a public display mentioning poppies doesn't really sit well either.

    Questioning their morals and listing the people they've ripped off and lied to is like shooting fish in a barrel. There are dozens of other examples we could use and any mention of poppies at this time of year should be about one thing: respect.

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    Poor taste IMO.

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    Just wondering when your mate received permission for such a banner to be displayed? Given that a drum and Hibs flags were banned in some sections of ER today, I would find it baffling if this was allowed, TBH.

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    Warning flag debate. Mate has asked me to take his large banner - Lest we forget... Hearts did not pay for their poppies - to the upcoming derby. Previously, it was taken down at the Oct derby last year but he has email confirmation from the club that it is ok to do so.

    Feel it should be flown as such issue, IMO, we have been too soft on with The Hearts showing once again that crime does indeed pay.

    Thoughts?
    They should be reminded at every opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HibbiesandtheBaddies View Post
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    They should be reminded at every opportunity.
    There are other ways to remind them of their wrong-doings though.

    If we try and score points by using negative language regarding such a subject then it's quite distasteful in my opinion. People say that they are trying to score points by mentioning their stuff 100 years ago but that isn't point scoring or attacking anyone else. It's a legitimate part of their history which they are entitled to celebrate and should be left alone...even if we feel they are exaggerating.

    It's time for class when it comes to things like this.

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    I remember seeing a large Hearts banner in the away end at ER some years ago telling all and sundry that they were McCrae's Battalion. Oh how they lorded it over us in their honour of their fallen heroes. This occurred before they stiffed the tax man, and her good self the Queen.

    They thought then that others in Edinburgh had not done enough to warrant their honours.

    Lest "they" forget.

    Edinburgh's 7th Battalion A and D companies, and all others, may you rest in peace.

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    Petty point scoring with silly banners doesn't interest me one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _hucks_ View Post
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    Do we really need to use remembrance for point scoring?
    It's not for me ,My Father was a Prisoner of War to the Japanese after the fall of Singapore so Remembrance Day and Poppies have different memories for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    IMO, it's definitely not in good taste to use war sacrifices for point scoring, no matter how low the other side sunk.
    We should be above that.
    My thoughts also


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Petty point scoring with silly banners doesn't interest me one bit.
    Snap. The phrase "Lest we Forget" should be respected and not used in some sort of petty football rivalry contest. We are better than that surely.
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