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18-12-2014 08:51 PM #1051
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18-12-2014 08:51 PM #1052This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Unlikely to happen though, he's dropped the bombs for tonight.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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18-12-2014 08:54 PM #1053This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's just that I logged on a couple of weeks back and read the following comments about the BuyHibs board. I also read their website and saw was who was involved. The comments below were directed at the same people by a small minority who appear to have been all over these threads like a rash with criticisms of the principals rather than the principles.
"Dishonest, flunky, lying, idiot, fantasist , liars, conman, EGO trip, duping, ex-casual, self-glorification, bunch of charlatans"
It's been the same sniping from this vindictive type of poster for years. If you go head to head with management you are in bed with the devil. If you volunteer to help your club you are naive or in league with management. If you volunteer by running a bus you are a mug who gets no thanks. If you do unpaid work at the Hibs club or by painting the steps you are angling for a 'blazer'. If you are a former player who speaks out about how the club is run you get slagged for your speech, clothes or intelligence. And if you volunteer for a supporter campaign you get your character assassinated online.
Guys like you are why I love the Hibs. The minority I speak out against who post these comments about good honourable individuals are people that should not be tolerated IMO.
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Off to pub!
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18-12-2014 08:56 PM #1054This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I suggest you do then, perhaps you will then come back with a different view. I also suggest you have a wee look at some of the threads that were started by the buyhibs members/committee. Read how they answered straight forward questions and again, come back here and tell us if you feel any different.
I wouldnt give any of them a penny of my money, i'm also not an admin on here or in cahoots with anyone at the club.
I want a new owner, but i'd stick with the current one 100% over any of this lot.
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18-12-2014 09:20 PM #1055
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18-12-2014 09:32 PM #1056This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Any chance you could quote a few examples of the personal attacks so I can make my own mind up about all this?
Cheers.
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18-12-2014 09:39 PM #1057This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Looks like you have this covered, PB
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18-12-2014 10:04 PM #1058This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I PM,d you about Sibley and you thanked me for the info yet it appears are still in denial.
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18-12-2014 10:48 PM #1059
Just f***ing name them Gogs and stop beating around the bush, you obviously no them so put there names up or just give it a rest with some of the pish, they won't be offended if they are named so let everyone else on .net know who we are dealing with here in case they( admins & others) are in cahoots with the club, because i would be pretty pissed of if that was the case, so name them and get it done if it is true.
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18-12-2014 10:51 PM #1060This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-12-2014 04:00 AM #1061
Read the last few pages and got no ****ing clue whats going on
Read HOH tweets and facebook stuff and I really really do not want these people anywhere near my club.
Buyhibs haven't said anything for me to read as far as I can see??
Hoping Leanne gives us a credible alternative at AGM
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19-12-2014 05:27 AM #1062This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-12-2014 07:43 AM #1063This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
To address a few other points, specifically 1 or 2 raised by Gogs. I was first made aware of BuyHibs about 2 to 3 months before they launched. I was contacted, the proposals were explained (at the time I was tentatively supportive) and I was asked not to make this info public, a request I respected. I was approached again a few days befote launch by 2 people involved and asked to give the other admins a 'heads up' about the launch and also facilitate the setting up of an official BuyHibs accounts, something that was done. One of the people who I was on contact with had been instrumental in setting up the SDS survey BuyHibs put so much weight on. He may well have started that survey as an independent fan, as Gogs and he claims, but he was heavily involved with BuyHibs (named as a director on their website no less) whilst still being touted as an 'independent fan'. Bit deceitful no?
I have little inclination as to who the 'right wing capitalist' or the 'cousin of Rod Petrie' are but I've a pretty good idea which admins his jibe were aimed at. All I will say is our suspiscions were not without foundation. There have been several requests now that all these shady bullies, dubious characters and agents of the board be named but so far nothing has been forthcoming. This is the tactics of a coward imo. We have seen several posts alternating between here and the Bounce with pretty scathing allegations and bordering on character assasination yet when asked to take it a step further and actually name the individuals or provide evidence? Nothing. Pathetic, cowardly and the worst kind of trolling. It's my opinion that this is being done deliberately and ultimately succeasfully as it is causing division and conflict, something the poster claims to want to avoid, go figure. I've genuinely no idea what the agenda is but my gut instinct is when you stretch the truth constantly and twist everything to suit your own ends then you have to keep doing it to continue to justify a position and stance, even when that seems in conflict with previously held positions.
Finally apologies to Silver for this rant quoting his post, I'm aware you weren't really questioning the admins integrity.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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19-12-2014 07:56 AM #1064This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What's the relevance of the "right wing capitalist" comment?
I remember the SWP used to try to "out-left" everyone else in the Labour movement. As a result, they were able to call anyone who disagreed with their mad cap ideas a "right winger".
(I actually remember an SWP banner which made me laugh during a pay dispute in the 80's which said "Don't sell out over Pay". Surely the whole point of the strike was to sell out?)
Who could we describe as a "left-wing capitalist"? I'm not sure if Oxymoron is the correct descriptor for that phrase, but I thought the word was at least partly appropriate.
From what little I've read, it seems that some people are playing the blame game because their half baked plans have been seen for what they are.
If I was a hibs.net admin, I'd close this thread and ignore the jibes.
I'm Rod Petrie's cousin, by the way. And so is my wife.Last edited by Hibbyradge; 19-12-2014 at 07:59 AM.
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19-12-2014 08:30 AM #1065
And I think I'm the right wing capitalist.
I've got my pension pot invested in the stockmarket, and when I played football they kept giving me the number 7 shirt .
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19-12-2014 08:31 AM #1066This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-12-2014 08:58 AM #1067
Think I have sussed Petries' Cousin.
As we also have a right wing capitalist, it would be handy if it was him as it keeps the divide and rule theme going along nicely
"I did not need any persuasion to play for such a great club, the Hibs result is still one of the first I look for"
Sir Matt Busby
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19-12-2014 08:59 AM #1068This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-12-2014 09:03 AM #1069
I suppose one thing about those who adopt the scattergun approach, when blaming others, is that they falsely believe it deflects from their own behaviour.
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19-12-2014 09:21 AM #1070
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They have failed to answer questions and then they have taken that a stage further by raising some fears and making accusations which haven't been backed up.
As a result people will keep questioning and pushing for answers. They can't answer so instead they are retreating to suggestions that the questioning is actually abuse or people working to some agenda.
It illustrates the feeling around the launch that actually these guys were not equipped with the skills and experience to carry this off. That is very much showing in their firstly amateur and now petulant approach.
What RIP is up to, when he was pretty much against their plan in the first place, I've no idea, his taking this personally on behalf of everyone just suggests a bit of a need for this to be all about him. He hasn't stuck around long enough on each thread to deal with it. In any case he's quite clear that we all have these opinions just because we fall into some sort of explainable category that has nothing to do with any failings of BuyHibs. Anyway, I always avoid the point apparantly so maybe I've just missed whatever point he was making for that reason.
A good suggestion might be that we just close this down and don't bother discussing it any more because as it stands it's dead and there is absolutely no chance of it happening. The ongoing chatter around it is just turning into a reason for fans to be split when we could really do with being together just now. We're giving it more publicity than in the scheme of things this is warranting.Last edited by Andy74; 19-12-2014 at 09:24 AM.
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19-12-2014 09:41 AM #1071A good suggestion might be that we just close this down and don't bother discussing it any more because as it stands it's dead and there is absolutely no chance of it happening. The ongoing chatter around it is just turning into a reason for fans to be split when we could really do with being together just now. We're giving it more publicity than in the scheme of things this is warranting.
Last edited by Mikey; 19-12-2014 at 10:25 AM. Reason: Fixed quotes
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19-12-2014 10:16 AM #1072This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Typical Taliban.net.
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