Forever Hibernian Plan Has Hit a Brick Wall

***Keith_M*** · 03-09-2014 12:54 PM

This was the desciption given by Paul Kane in an article where he encourages as many fans as possible to complete the Supporters Direct Scotland survey.

'"...(Kane) claimed one plan put forward by a group including himself, Kenny McLean and like-minded Hibs fans, involving a 51 per cent shareholding for supporters, had “hit a brick wall” as Petrie “kept shifting the goalposts”.'

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...ange-1-3529503

***jacomo*** · 03-09-2014 01:09 PM

Can only assume that Kane hasn't got the money.

I'm generally supportive of the idea of fan ownership or part-ownership, but it's pretty clear that Rod and STF aren't going to entertain people without serious, verifiable investment behind them.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-09-2014 01:34 PM

Petrie cant move the goalposts, he's been effectively retired.

**Big Frank** · 03-09-2014 01:36 PM

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Petrie cant move the goalposts, he's been effectively retired.

yes, from the playing side but has he been "retired" from the money making side

**scott7_0(Prague)** · 03-09-2014 01:44 PM

Is this a shock to anyone, the plans were written up on the back of a cigarette packet.....

***blackpoolhibs*** · 03-09-2014 01:48 PM

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yes, from the playing side but has he been "retired" from the money making side

Exactly, LD can say what she wants, while he's still there i don't believe anything gets passed without him giving it the once over.

**Crazyhorse** · 03-09-2014 01:49 PM

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Can only assume that Kane hasn't got the money.

I'm generally supportive of the idea of fan ownership or part-ownership, but it's pretty clear that Rod and STF aren't going to entertain people without serious, verifiable investment behind them.

The con...duit ain't going anywhere. Hibs, whatever league they are in, are his ticket to the job he wants.

Farmer's motivation is hard to fathom, its difficult to understand anyone simply allowing the stagnation and now decline we are witnessing of a community/commercial organisation they own. One concern I have is the issue of forward planning he isn't going to be around forever (must be in his mid 70's now?) and hopefully he will stay in good health but in the not too distant future he isn't going to be around. We could be in store for a very chaotic time.

***Kato*** · 03-09-2014 01:54 PM

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Is this a shock to anyone, the plans were written up on the back of a cigarette packet.....

Could you show me a copy. Sounds interesting.

NW · 03-09-2014 01:56 PM

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Is this a shock to anyone, the plans were written up on the back of a cigarette packet.....

Very harsh and uncalled for. Independent financial and legal professionals drew up a proposal which was governed by a nda.

NW · 03-09-2014 01:57 PM

There is more than one way to get passed a wall

**Waxy** · 03-09-2014 01:58 PM

Makes you wonder, have we past/present had board members only here to make themselves a profit.

***matty_f*** · 03-09-2014 02:00 PM

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Very harsh and uncalled for. Independent financial and legal professionals drew up a proposal which was governed by a nda.

And was independently assessed as not in the best interests of the club.

**scott7_0(Prague)** · 03-09-2014 02:00 PM

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Could you show me a copy. Sounds interesting.

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Very harsh and uncalled for. Independent financial and legal professionals drew up a proposal which was governed by a nda.

Truth hurts sometimes.

**ancient hibee** · 03-09-2014 02:01 PM

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Could you show me a copy. Sounds interesting.

It says "owning a football club can be injurious to your wealth".

***Keith_M*** · 03-09-2014 02:03 PM

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And was independently assessed as not in the best interests of the club.

That doesn't mean that the 'back of a fag packet' comment was fair.

We also don't know on what basis it was rejected/being blocked.

NW · 03-09-2014 02:06 PM

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And was independently assessed as not in the best interests of the club.

Agreed. And no argument but describing it as such was unfair on those involved.(which I wasn't)

NW · 03-09-2014 02:07 PM

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Truth hurts sometimes.

I wasn't involved but think its unfair for you to have a go when you potentially have no knowledge of offer of those involved

**marinello59** · 03-09-2014 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by NW;4156600[B

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]Very harsh and uncalled for.[/B] Independent financial and legal professionals drew up a proposal which was governed by a nda.

I'll agree with you there. I would assume that Paul Kane's team did things properly when it came to presenting a bid. To suggest otherwise without any actual knowledge is unfair.

**scott7_0(Prague)** · 03-09-2014 02:13 PM

off your high horses folk, your starting to sound like Yes and No campaigners - its all about opinions.

***J-C*** · 03-09-2014 02:15 PM

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Exactly, LD can say what she wants, while he's still there i don't believe anything gets passed without him giving it the once over.

He'll have no say in the players/caoches anymore but he's still STF's right hand man who was hand picked to look after STF's investment, LD is SEO of football operations not the selling of the club.

***Hibbyradge*** · 03-09-2014 02:19 PM

Why don't Kano etc give Hibs money to spend on players?

A cheap loan even. That would be a huge help.

NW · 03-09-2014 02:23 PM

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Why don't Kano etc give Hibs money to spend on players?

A cheap loan even. That would be a huge help.

Would you give money to people you don't trust?

**Pretty Boy** · 03-09-2014 02:24 PM

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off your high horses folk, your starting to sound like Yes and No campaigners - its all about opinions.

Ways and means of expressing an opinion.

Kano may not have had the knowledge or backing to front a bid, people don't have to like him but some of the stuff aimed at him has been every bit as bad as the stuff aimed at RP and LD.

I'll give him credit for getting off his erse and trying to do something.

***HFC 0-7*** · 03-09-2014 02:27 PM

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Why don't Kano etc give Hibs money to spend on players?

A cheap loan even. That would be a huge help.

I think they would if they trusted the board to spend it properly, it's for that reason that they want to buy the club and spend money correctly.

***HFC 0-7*** · 03-09-2014 02:29 PM

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And was independently assessed as not in the best interests of the club.

Yes, a, but would that not be assessed as to how the club currently operates, ie, top heavy board and continue the size of operations at east mains etc.

aslo, remember tynecastle being independently assessed for its worth when they were in admin?

***Kato*** · 03-09-2014 02:41 PM

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Can't make out the writing.

Truth hurts sometimes.

Maybe you can spill the beans re-the truth as PK's business with TF was subject to a confidentiality agreement. I'm sure we're all keen to know the detail.

**Cameron1875** · 03-09-2014 02:42 PM

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Why don't Kano etc give Hibs money to spend on players?

A cheap loan even. That would be a huge help.

So Kano etc give Petrie £1 million/£2 million for example to buy some players.

But Petrie's tight fistedness and ludicrious wage structure means we end up with a team of Ritchie Towell, Fillip Morais, Matt Thornhill, Pa Kujabi.
Rather than 1 or 2 QUALITY players.

Can't see Kano going for that imo

**ancient hibee** · 03-09-2014 02:43 PM

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I think they would if they trusted the board to spend it properly, it's for that reason that they want to buy the club and spend money correctly.

Only want to buy 51% of the club surely?

***Hibbyradge*** · 03-09-2014 02:43 PM

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Would you give money to people you don't trust?

If I had a spare £3.5m floating around I would happily give money to hibs, but I'd require a say in what (or who) it was spent on.

***Hibbyradge*** · 03-09-2014 02:45 PM

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So Kano etc give Petrie £1 million/£2 million for example to buy some players.

But Petrie's tight fistedness and ludicrious wage structure means we end up with a team of Ritchie Towell, Fillip Morais, Matt Thornhill, Pa Kujabi.
Rather than 1 or 2 QUALITY players.

Can't see Kano going for that imo

Do you know many businessmen who hand over large sums of cash without knowing what it was going to be spent on?

If so, introduce me to them.

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