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    Why did you not make a substitution earlier when you saw the game turning against us

    DearMr Stubbs

    i am utterly sick of walking away from a derby with my head held low. Lots of Hibs supports could see what needed done. Why could you not see that.

    you have got us playing better football, but I am still left feeling gutted.

    if you are half the man I hope you are, why don't you post an answer.

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    Stubbs

    Can we not crucify him after 3 competitive games. If Craig put the pen in, things would have been different

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    Can we not crucify him after 3 competitive games. If Craig put the pen in, things would have been different
    People would've crucified him after his first game if they had a chance.

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    Yeah, give Stubbs a chance as he needs time to get his team together. No point people giving him abuse before he's had a chance to sort it.

    What I will say is, we've known all summer we are pish in the final third and not enough has been done to sort that out. And we're already trailing Hearts by three points.

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    Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
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    Can we not crucify him after 3 competitive games. If Craig put the pen in, things would have been different
    But he didn't. If my aunty had baws she'd be my uncle.

    I'm not interested in anything about Hibs any more other than results - another derby, another defeat and another three points gone. This is a do or die season and that result simply isn't good enough.

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    Always going to be a hard game lack imagination as before el alagui is a goalscorer but no decent support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VPHIBEE View Post
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    if you are half the man I hope you are, why don't you post an answer.

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    He probably has better things to be doing.

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    Same problems as last year, it's just we are playing nicer football.

    It's not Stubbs' fault, although I thought he could've made a couple positive changes whilst we were clearly on top before they scored.

    The problem is above him. Today was so predictable.
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    Can we not crucify him after 3 competitive games. If Craig put the pen in, things would have been different


    He made a mistake today not taking Robertson off far sooner and it was one of the major factors in the loss, but people saying he's as clueless as Calderwood, Fenton and Butcher are being ridiculous.

    Also those that have written off our chances already need to get a grip, from what I've seen we were better than Rangers and Hearts were the same standard as us. 34 league games to go, no point in giving up yet.

    Poor performance and result today without a doubt though.

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    I like Stubbs but he's not immune from criticism.

    Robertson should have been subbed long before the first goal, he was scared to tackle. We had Allan on the bench who would be a ready made replacement.

    Kennedy should have been on earlier, their full backs are *****.

    Stanton should never have started.

    We barely had a shot on goal against a young, nervous rookie keeper.

    Stubbs ****ed up here, he needs to learn from this.

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    Not surprised we lost. Central midfield of Craig and Robertson got us relegated. Defence of Forster, Nelson and Stevenson got us relegated. So much for a summer of change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    He probably has better things to be doing.
    Like what? I would like an explanation why he did not see what all us Amateurs could plainly see!

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    That was so utterly avoidable. It was blatantly obvious that Robertson needed taken off long before they scored.

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    Substitutions

    We were carrying Stanton & Handling for most of the game. He should have subbed them 5-10 mins in the 2nd half. It was the same last week as well. Heffernan & Stanton contributed the square route of f all & went off around the 80th minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VPHIBEE View Post
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    Like what? I would like an explanation why he did not see what all us Amateurs could plainly see!
    We said the very same thing watching on the telly, both wide players did nothing all game. Why they were not hooked well before they scored is beyond me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 18Craig75 View Post
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    Same problems as last year, it's just we are playing nicer football

    It's not Stubbs' fault, although I thought he could've made a couple positive changes whilst we were clearly on top before we scored.

    The problem is above him. Today was so predictable:



    let's not contribute negatively - save that for if we don't go up. IMO there's more of a chance of forcing petrie out before the end of the season than there is stubbs, so if we absolutely need to vent our anger at someone, it's best for all parties if that person is petrie. it is genuinely his fault that we're in this position anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    We said the very same thing watching on the telly, both wide players did nothing all game. Why they were not hooked well before they scored is beyond me?
    Robertson was always getting sent off, completely ridiculous he wasn't subbed earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    We said the very same thing watching on the telly, both wide players did nothing all game. Why they were not hooked well before they scored is beyond me?
    Thanks Blackpool, many posters saw this, Stubbs, why didn't you?

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    He's on the right lines, he needs more backing in the transfer market. Worrying that he seems so reticent to make changes, I hope he's learned fm that as it cost us against Rangers and didn't help today.

    He'll get it right more often than get gets it wrong imo and will develop the good young players at the club. It was our experienced midfield pair who let us down (again) today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Robertson was always getting sent off, completely ridiculous he wasn't subbed earlier
    Robertson and Craig had no help all game from Stanton and Harris, i agree Robertson was walking a fine line from his first booking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Robertson was always getting sent off, completely ridiculous he wasn't subbed earlier
    Totally agree. An absolute joke not subbing him. The 1st goal was a wonder strike but Robertson still sold himself then the penalty was a complete joke.

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    We are gona go there and have a go, well if that's what you call having a go I'm ****ed if I know what not having a go is.

    as has been said why he waited so long to make subs is beyond me, Stanton off for Kennedy, handling off for Cummings and Allan on for Robertson who was a stick on to get sent of as all he done all game was foul.

    really disappointed today but we move on and focus on the next game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VPHIBEE View Post
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    Doe the fact that you have posted more times than me give you the right to rubbish what I say?
    You'll not be posting much more if that's the level of debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenblood70 View Post
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    He's on the right lines, he needs more backing in the transfer market. Worrying that he seems so reticent to make changes, I hope he's learned fm that as it cost us against Rangers and didn't help today.

    He'll get it right more often than get gets it wrong imo and will develop the good young players at the club. It was our experienced midfield pair who let us down (again) today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VPHIBEE View Post
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    Doe the fact that you have posted more times than me give you the right to rubbish what I say?
    Not a comment on amount of posts, it's just we seem to have a problem with trolling on here.

    Narrow loss - if the penalty had gone in or El Alagui's header then it could have been a totally different story. To be demanding personal answers from our manager already? Seems a bit fishy to me.
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    No way we will go up with this current squad...just not good enough. We might get into play offs but not good enough to come thru them imo...we need 3 or 4 quality additions before end of August...over to you LD and AS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    You'll not be posting much more if that's the level of debate.
    He's git a point imo.

    Doing it in open letter style was wrong but the points he's made are perfectly valid.

    If he's got a hundred or a thousand posts is neither here nor there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Day Soon View Post
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    That is what Dempster is banking on but it is a strategy predicated upon aiming to be promoted in season two or three.
    Agreed, I've said all along we need to strengthen the spine of the team with quality ( within our budget) and experience so we' re not over reliant on the youngsters. We lack an organiser still and Craig and Robertson run about a lot but actually contribute very little in terms of influencing a game.


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