Celtic back in Champions League (merged)

***hibee_girl*** · 07-08-2014 06:41 PM

All over twitter right now

“@ScottishSun: Celtic could land a Champions League lifeline after Legia Warsaw confirmed UEFA investigation into the availability of one of their players”

**Onceinawhile** · 07-08-2014 06:43 PM

Just read about it. Legia released a statement saying they may have fielded an ineligible player.

***HibbyAndy*** · 07-08-2014 06:46 PM

Aww naw your joking!!!

***Hibbyradge*** · 07-08-2014 06:50 PM

Celtic will be awarded a 2-0 home victory.

***Bostonhibby*** · 07-08-2014 06:52 PM

Cannae see the best fitba fans in the world accepting advancement based on a technicality when they were thumped by 6-1, if it was a close run thing and the offence made a difference perhaps but true fitba people like the best fans in the world will surely know they were thrashed and accept it.

***Jonnyboy*** · 07-08-2014 06:52 PM

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Celtic will be awarded a 2-0 home victory.

I sure hope so

***blackpoolhibs*** · 07-08-2014 06:54 PM

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Celtic will be awarded a 2-0 home victory.

Would be funny as if this was the case.

**Stranraer** · 07-08-2014 06:55 PM

Oh dear. Didn't this happen with FC Thun a few years back?

***Bostonhibby*** · 07-08-2014 06:59 PM

Hang on a minute though, didn't celtc field an ineligible player as well? They have been bleating for ages about Griffiths not being celtc (or simple) minded or whatever it is so this must balance it out surely? They can't have it both ways.

**hibs4thecup1988** · 07-08-2014 07:13 PM

Surely just a fine would ensue?

***3pm*** · 07-08-2014 07:27 PM

While we were rightly criticised for getting a pasting off Malmo, I take it Celtic getting pumped 6-1 doesn't constitute a national embarrassment?

***Bostonhibby*** · 07-08-2014 07:32 PM

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While we were rightly criticised for getting a pasting off Malmo, I take it Celtic getting pumped 6-1 doesn't constitute a national embarrassment?

Is there a difference to the coefficient between a 6-1 and 9-0 defeat? if there is then you can really appreciate what Delila was on about earlier.

**Borderhibbie76** · 07-08-2014 07:32 PM

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While we were rightly criticised for getting a pasting off Malmo, I take it Celtic getting pumped 6-1 doesn't constitute a national embarrassment?

Very good point mate...if anything there result is worse given their resources! !

***Ringothedog*** · 07-08-2014 07:35 PM

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While we were rightly criticised for getting a pasting off Malmo, I take it Celtic getting pumped 6-1 doesn't constitute a national embarrassment?

Don't be silly, they could have got pumped 10-1 and it would have been glossed over and turned into a moral victory.

**Ronniekirk** · 07-08-2014 07:41 PM

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Surely just a fine would ensue?

That would be what should happen as it's not as if Celtic Genuinely think that one player made all the difference but precedents have been set so they may get a reprieve . but that won't placate the Fans they know how bad they played in those two legs and they have been embarrassed by it .

**ekhibee** · 07-08-2014 07:42 PM

It's a difficult one to fathom out really. The player was sent off in some game at the end of last season, they didn't play him in either of the ties against St Pats or the home leg against Celtic. It was a 3 game ban but seemingly there was a problem regarding his registration which means that he wasn't fully registered for the St Pats games. On that basis they are contravening the rules and would forfeit their place in the CL.

***easty*** · 07-08-2014 07:50 PM

If you're a football team competing to get into the champions league you should be well enough run/organised that this just doesn't happen. If they're booted out it's their own fault and I've nae sympathy for them.

***Scouse Hibee*** · 07-08-2014 07:55 PM

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If you're a football team competing to get into the champions league you should be well enough run/organised that this just doesn't happen. If they're booted out it's their own fault and I've nae sympathy for them.

If they broke the rules then they have to accept the appropriate punishment, Celtic should quite rightly benefit despite me not wanting them to

**Tinribs** · 07-08-2014 07:57 PM

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If you're a football team competing to get into the champions league you should be well enough run/organised that this just doesn't happen. If they're booted out it's their own fault and I've nae sympathy for them.

idd, but i have no sympathy for Celtic either, and a lot of their fans seem to feel the same. They were reamed, well and truly.
One guy did not destroy them, they were just found wanting in all departments and the right thing for them to do would be to say let the result stand.

**ekhibee** · 07-08-2014 08:01 PM

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Oh dear. Didn't this happen with FC Thun a few years back?

I remember it happening with Stuttgart when they were playing Leeds and sent on a sub that was an ineligible player. They were kicked out and Leeds were beaten comfortably by the team that is now Sevco.

**ekhibee** · 07-08-2014 08:12 PM

A statement on Legia's official website read: "The club announces that in connection with the Celtic FC-Legia Warsaw match in the second leg of the third qualifying round of the Champions League, UEFA opened an investigation into the participation of Bartosz Bereszynski.
"The club is preparing the relevant information and explanations, which will be sent to UEFA today.
"The result of the investigation will be announced immediately after its completion."

I'm not sure what the 'relevant information and explanations' will amount to, but the result was so conclusive I'm just not sure that they'd let the Smellies in through the back door. By rights Warsaw should be kicked out though.

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 07-08-2014 08:15 PM

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idd, but i have no sympathy for Celtic either, and a lot of their fans seem to feel the same. They were reamed, well and truly.
One guy did not destroy them, they were just found wanting in all departments and the right thing for them to do would be to say let the result stand.

Player came on with 4 minutes to go, score at 0-2 (1-6)......Celtic have no morals if they take Legia's place

**~~southsider~~** · 07-08-2014 08:15 PM

If smelik get back i it would just prove the game is crooked to the core.

**MyJo** · 07-08-2014 08:18 PM

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Celtic have no morals.

fixed that for you

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 07-08-2014 08:20 PM

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fixed that for you

Aye, that is what I meant Myjo

**DC_Hibs** · 07-08-2014 08:35 PM

the boy played 2 mins at 1-6 FFS, they've no chance. (it's a conspiracy)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28693855

"However, in 2010, Uefa fined Debrecen £15,000 but rejected a protest from opponents Litex Lovech, who wanted the Hungarian side kicked out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player.

Debrecen argued that they fielded Peter Mate in good faith as a substitute in Bulgaria when they were leading 4-1 on aggregate.

Uefa ruled that Debrecen had "no interest in fielding this player for the three last minutes of additional time, when the score was so clearly in its favour".

**Ozyhibby** · 07-08-2014 08:47 PM

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the boy played 2 mins at 1-6 FFS, they've no chance. (it's a conspiracy)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28693855

"However, in 2010, Uefa fined Debrecen £15,000 but rejected a protest from opponents Litex Lovech, who wanted the Hungarian side kicked out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player.

Debrecen argued that they fielded Peter Mate in good faith as a substitute in Bulgaria when they were leading 4-1 on aggregate.

Uefa ruled that Debrecen had "no interest in fielding this player for the three last minutes of additional time, when the score was so clearly in its favour".

That was an intelligible player. The Warsaw player was banned.

**Gordy M** · 07-08-2014 09:01 PM

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Player came on with 4 minutes to go, score at 0-2 (1-6)......Celtic have no morals if they take Legia's place

Much as i dislike celtic, it really isnt anything to do with them. If legia have broken the rules and get punted out then thats not celtics fault, thats between legia and uefa? If celtic had complained then maybe thats slightly different, but i dont think they have?

**SanFranHibs** · 07-08-2014 09:02 PM

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the boy played 2 mins at 1-6 FFS, they've no chance. (it's a conspiracy)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28693855

"However, in 2010, Uefa fined Debrecen £15,000 but rejected a protest from opponents Litex Lovech, who wanted the Hungarian side kicked out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player.

Debrecen argued that they fielded Peter Mate in good faith as a substitute in Bulgaria when they were leading 4-1 on aggregate.

Uefa ruled that Debrecen had "no interest in fielding this player for the three last minutes of additional time, when the score was so clearly in its favour".

Yes, but LW definitely had an interest because if they did not play him it might have ended up 1-7. By puting him on they kept the score at 1-6. They have to thrown out for that surely.