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    Ronny Deila

    Don't know if this has already been posted elsewhere

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28307088

    Great way to endear yourself to the rest of Scottish football.

    What a roaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC J-A-W View Post
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    Don't know if this has already been posted elsewhere

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28307088

    Great way to endear yourself to the rest of Scottish football.

    What a roaster
    Celtc minded?

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    Being a roaster aside.

    Celtic are the Champions of Scotland, no way they should have so many qualifying games.

    That's the way it is though.

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    Seems like a right scatty fud. He'll be well suited to that horrible mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cleanyman View Post
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    Being a roaster aside.

    Celtic are the Champions of Scotland, no way they should have so many qualifying games.

    That's the way it is though.

    Pish.

    They reap what they sow.

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    Hes here to manage celtic and make them win, not make other clubs happy.

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    What Deila states is correct. Due to Scotland's poor ranking, Celtic do have to play 3 qualifying games. However, IF Celtic are such a big club then they should find no difficulty in winning their qualifying games, no matter how many, as their opponents will be from other small countries and of a much poorer quality.

    However, maybe Deila should be bleating to the SFA/SPL/SPFL about Scotland's poor ranking. The suits at Hampden made sure that the share of the revenue was biased so that the Bigot Bros took the lion's share depriving the other Scottish clubs of making a fist of it. Even the 4 games a season is designed to help the old firm to the detriment of the others. When the game in Scotland is played on a level playing field then maybe the ranking will go up but until then Scotland will continue to be grouped alongside other small countries.

    Aberdeen having to start their qualifying at the beginning of July would have a bigger reason to complain (as an ex-cup winner).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricla View Post
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    Pish.

    They reap what they sow.
    what's pish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC J-A-W View Post
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    Don't know if this has already been posted elsewhere

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28307088

    Great way to endear yourself to the rest of Scottish football.

    What a roaster
    What a ****ing twat. If it wasn't for his ****ing incredible team buying out all the other teams' talent we'd have a better league and Celtic themselves would be a better team as they'd be playing against better opposition week in week out.

    What an ignorant arse.


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    He'll look a bit of a plum when they drop points to teams that "Drag them down " then. What a erse

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    I saw this article just before setting off for Dunfermline tonight so I didn't have a chance to post anything but he seems like the kind of guy who will fit in perfectly at Parkhead.

    I'm sure this will be the sort of thing that the Green Brigade would have been referring to with their "A man must be a Celt on and off the field" nonsense last season.

    As for his comment about "the others dragging Celtic down", is he aware that clubs such as Kilmarnock, St Mirren and Motherwell are in such a weak position thanks in no small part to the fact that those clubs are based in towns where a large number of their inhabitants are going along to Parkhead every other week, therefore boosting the Celtic coffers and further weakening the opposition in Scotland.

    I think I'm going to really dislike this guy, possibly even more so than his predecessor.

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    Feel free to take yer terrorist loving club and **** right off Ronny, I wouldn't miss you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    I think I'm going to really dislike this guy, possibly even more so than his predecessor.
    At least he's starting out being disliked on his own merits, than jumping on what was originally, a Rangers bandwagon.

    Not saying that's your reasons, but think a lot of people didn't like Lennon for reasons they're not even sure of themselves.

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    At least he's starting out being disliked on his own merits, than jumping on what was originally, a Rangers bandwagon.

    Not saying that's your reasons, but think a lot of people didn't like Lennon for reasons they're not even sure of themselves.
    I disliked Neil Lennon whilst he was at Celtic for lots of reasons, none of which were down to either his place of birth or his religious persuasion and I think a lot of people were the same.

    Lennon's behaviour at times during his years in Scotland, both as a player and a manager, was ridiculous.

    Some of the things he has had to put up with has been shameful and totally out of order but he certainly made a lot of enemies with opposition fans with some of his antics.

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    i think he's talking about the other scottish teams recent piss poor efforts in european football which isn't helping the scottish co-efficient and thus making celtic play 3 qualy rounds? i agree with him on that score, (less said about our exploits last year the better)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA View Post
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    i think he's talking about the other scottish teams recent piss poor efforts in european football which isn't helping the scottish co-efficient and thus making celtic play 3 qualy rounds? i agree with him on that score, (less said about our exploits last year the better)
    Also agree in some way. various teams are simply poorly run. the league payment share doesn't help but he has a point. Our Malmo expedition wasn't taken seriously at all by the club - we were just happy to make up the numbers and have a wee party: like our last cup final appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC J-A-W View Post
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    Don't know if this has already been posted elsewhere

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28307088

    Great way to endear yourself to the rest of Scottish football.

    What a roaster
    Lucky to get a 1 nil against 'minnows' in Iceland tonight. Chick dung & billy dodds ripping into Leigh as well tonight on the radio. Some things never change..

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    Nice to see that the new man has quickly slipped into the Celtic way of doing things
    This is how it feels

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    What a prick. Should stick to cooking

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    I'd also like to remind him that his best player (and captain) is Scott Brown, his two main strikers are Leigh Griffiths and Anthony Stokes and another main player in his squad is Charlie Mulgrew.

    If the rest of us clubs are keeping them down, then how about they give back the players they took from other SPL teams and we'll see how much we're dragging them down then.

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    New Celtc manager. Same as the old Celtc manager.

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    Don't see what he's said that's wrong.

    The European rankings should be on a club by club basis rather than on a country's co-efficient.

    The whole nation co-efficient is designed to keep the big clubs in the big nations happy and that's it.

    He's sticking up for his own side so I don't have a problem with it whether it be Celtic or anyone else.

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    Looks like some people are just trying to be offended/annoyed by this, nothing much he said was wrong or inaccurate IMO

    I don't think he actually set out to cause offence to anyone in particular but just answered a pretty loaded question

    Celtic are regular Champions League Club and in the last 8 year have got to the last 16 n three separate occasion so in that sense they shouldn't have to play qualifiers, the Co-efficient should be on a Club by Club basis not Country by Country

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    He isn't far off though. In England the team that comes 4th only has to play one qualifier and 3rd gets straight to the group state. There should be less 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed teams in the champions league and more champions. I don't think it will happen though, because I think most people would rather watch someone like Arsenal than the champions of smaller nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
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    He isn't far off though. In England the team that comes 4th only has to play one qualifier and 3rd gets straight to the group state. There should be less 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed teams in the champions league and more champions. I don't think it will happen though, because I think most people would rather watch someone like Arsenal than the champions of smaller nations.
    "Champions league" my arse. They should actually be done under the trades description act for that. Should be called " the competition designed to keep the richest clubs rich and the wee diddy clubs down". Farce of a competition now. Since it began how many times has a non champion won it? We will never see the likes of Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Celtic win it ever again. There is probably only about 10 clubs in Europe who now have a realistic chance of winning it and that is all down to the way it is designed to make money for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    "Champions league" my arse. They should actually be done under the trades description act for that. Should be called " the competition designed to keep the richest clubs rich and the wee diddy clubs down". Farce of a competition now. Since it began how many times has a non champion won it? We will never see the likes of Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Celtic win it ever again. There is probably only about 10 clubs in Europe who now have a realistic chance of winning it and that is all down to the way it is designed to make money for them

    Nottingham Forest won it when they weren't champions of their own country

    I agree with your key point though. All clubs who win their home Championship (plus the holders of the CL) should get straight into the Group stages. The rest can fight it out in qualifiers.

    EDIT: Ok I just realised there are 53 countries with teams in the Champions league, so the above is not going to work. What I would say is that NO team that does not win it's national league should get directly in to the Group stages (unless they are current CL holders). If that was the case there would be another 8 places available for actual champions from the next eight countries with the highest coefficient.

    I have to say looking at the way UEFA work out who enters at what round absolutely baffles me. Celtic have a coefficient of 36.813 and have to start at the 2nd qualifying round stage. While Limassol of cyprus have a coefficent of 7.650 yet get to start at the third qualifying round stage ?????

    In fact 6 of the 10 teams who enter at the 3rd round of qualifying have a worse coefficient than Celtic…how does that work ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKev View Post
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    Don't see what he's said that's wrong.

    The European rankings should be on a club by club basis rather than on a country's co-efficient.

    The whole nation co-efficient is designed to keep the big clubs in the big nations happy and that's it.

    He's sticking up for his own side so I don't have a problem with it whether it be Celtic or anyone else.
    If that's all he'd said there'd be no complaints. The sly dig at the rest of Scottish football isn't on though, especially when the only team with the power to change it is Celtic. If they want a more competitive league they have two options: leave or spread their wealth. I doubt he cares that strongly about being "dragged down"!

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    Don't see what the problem with his statement.

    May be slightly ill phrased but it is performances like ours last year that are dragging down our co-efficient.

    As has been said the CL is designed to keep a few clubs from only several countries at the top, raking in the CL money.

    Even Cyrpus, Denmark and Austria have slightly easier qualifying than us and Switzerland, Greece, Belgium and Turkey have their Champions automatically qualify in the group stages and their runners-up straight into Q3, whereas Celtic have to start at Q2 and our runners up not even in the qualifying rounds. Celtic may not have been good in the CL last year but their performances in the past few years must rank higher than being bracketed with Icelandic teams.

    And I think it is time that some of our fans got their heads out the read ends regarding 'they reap what they sow 'nonsense. Hibs are a selling club. No-one forced us at gunpoint to sell Scott Brown, Whittaker, O'Connor, Rob Jones, Kevin Thompson, Ivan Sproule when Hibs fans thought Petrie was God and it was all a good bit of business, especially the 4.5 million for Brown. Of course, when we try and poach players from St. Johnstone or Inverness or whomever, it is ok. Or get their managers or executives...it is fine. We are a bigger club and they have smaller expectations. (How many times did I read that on this site regarding ICT and Butcher).

    We have been a selling club since I can remember...Colin Stein, the first 100,000 transfer in Scotland and the following week he comes back and nets a hat trick as the old Rangers put 6 past us.

    We reap what we sow !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanFranHibs View Post
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    May be slightly ill phrased but it is performances like ours last year that are dragging down our co-efficient.

    As has been said the CL is designed to keep a few clubs from only several countries at the top, raking in the CL money.

    Even Cyrpus, Denmark and Austria have slightly easier qualifying than us and Switzerland, Greece, Belgium and Turkey have their Champions automatically qualify in the group stages and their runners-up straight into Q3, whereas Celtic have to start at Q2 and our runners up not even in the qualifying rounds. Celtic may not have been good in the CL last year but their performances in the past few years must rank higher than being bracketed with Icelandic teams.

    And I think it is time that some of our fans got their heads out the read ends regarding 'they reap what they sow 'nonsense. Hibs are a selling club. No-one forced us at gunpoint to sell Scott Brown, Whittaker, O'Connor, Rob Jones, Kevin Thompson, Ivan Sproule when Hibs fans thought Petrie was God and it was all a good bit of business, especially the 4.5 million for Brown. Of course, when we try and poach players from St. Johnstone or Inverness or whomever, it is ok. Or get their managers or executives...it is fine. We are a bigger club and they have smaller expectations. (How many times did I read that on this site regarding ICT and Butcher).

    We have been a selling club since I can remember...Colin Stein, the first 100,000 transfer in Scotland and the following week he comes back and nets a hat trick as the old Rangers put 6 past us.

    We reap what we sow !!!
    Your right of course in many ways, but the power is with the players these days, not the clubs. It's almost impossible for Hibs to hold on to players who know they could be across in Glasgow earning 5 or 10 times the wages, so it's normally a case of keep them against their will for an extra season then get nothing for them, or sell them when they demand that they want to go and at least make some money. It's a catch 22 situation and to just "Blame Petrie" is to suggest that Hibs are the only club effected by this, which you point out later in your post is not the case. We do it to "smaller" clubs ourselves. The trick is to somehow get your club further up the food chain. Plus in the last 20 years Rangers and Celtic have gone out of their way to buy players from Scottish teams to weaken them, even if it meant virtually never actually giving the bought player a game (as in the case of Deek). If The Old Firm had sought to bring on their own players and buy from outside Scotland then I suspect the other teams would definitely have stayed stronger. This would have benefitted the Old Firm with a better Euro coefficient, but in truth they just don't like the increased domestic competition.

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