forever Hibernian

[bingo70]

Just heard on the radio Paul Kane talking about bid to do similar to the foundation of hearts but attempt to get the fans yo take over 51% of the club. Think the group is called forever Hibernian or Hibernian forever or something along those lines.

I'm surprised there's not been any more mentioned about it on here, did anybody else gear it or am I going bonkers?

Good luck to Kane, regardless of what you think of him or his ideas you can't deny his motives are good and I'm thankfully he's taking the time to explore this option.

[Peevemor]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...alks-1-3471254

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Just heard on the radio Paul Kane talking about bid to do similar to the foundation of hearts but attempt to get the fans yo take over 51% of the club. Think the group is called forever Hibernian or Hibernian forever or something along those lines.

I'm surprised there's not been any more mentioned about it on here, did anybody else gear it or am I going bonkers?

Good luck to Kane, regardless of what you think of him or his ideas you can't deny his motives are good and I'm thankfully he's taking the time to explore this option.

It's on the EEN site I think, read it earlier today

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In fact here you go http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...alks-1-3471254

[Peevemor]

OK, so the consensus is that Kano has nothing but the club's best interests at heart, but I find it interesting that has mandate from the "Petrie Out" campaign has now been transferred to the "Forever Hibernian" takeover group, with no mention of RP.

[E10 Rifle]

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OK, so the consensus is that Kano has nothing but the club's best interests at heart, but I find it interesting that has mandate from the "Petrie Out" campaign has now been transferred to the "Forever Hibernian" takeover group, with no mention of RP.

He was basically told to 'get tae' with the Petrie Out call by TF, so this I guess is an alternative motion.

[bingo70]

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OK, so the consensus is that Kano has nothing but the club's best interests at heart, but I find it interesting that has mandate from the "Petrie Out" campaign has now been transferred to the "Forever Hibernian" takeover group, with no mention of RP.

Not really a contradictory alternative though. The first part of the project was simply for the removal, the second is to offer an alternative, something a lot of people were asking.

[marinello59]

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OK, so the consensus is that Kano has nothing but the club's best interests at heart, but I find it interesting that has mandate from the "Petrie Out" campaign has now been transferred to the "Forever Hibernian" takeover group, with no mention of RP.

What mandate? He can't claim one yet. If enough fans are willing to invest then that will be his mandate.

[lord bunberry]

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What mandate? He can't claim one yet. If enough fans are willing to invest then that will be his mandate.

He asked for a show of hands at the protest, it was almost unanimous

[marinello59]

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He asked for a show of hands at the protest, it was almost unanimous

Apologies, I didn't realise this had already been voted on by some fans. To be honest it's the first I have heard of it. What did he actually say at the protest then?

[bigwheel]

Unlike Hearts who had to come together as one to save their club , there isn't the urgent "burning platform" for us . As a result it will be hard to create a mass movement to commit funding in the way Hearts did.

[lord bunberry]

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Apologies, I didn't realise this had already been voted on by some fans. To be honest it's the first I have heard of it. What did he actually say at the protest then?

I can't remember what he said exactly but it was along the lines of "there's been a lot of talk about stage 2 of our plan, stage 2 is to have the fans running the club" he then asked for a show of hands. I'm sure others who were there will be able to say exactly what was said, my memory isn't what it used to be

[Keith_M]

“We are now drawing up a proposal for a Newco Hibernian Fans Co-Operative to own the club and the stadium,” explained the retired midfielder, who made almost 300 appearances for the club."

“The key point is the fans will own a 51 per cent majority shareholding through a membership scheme and we will attract finance for the other 49 per cent."

“We have already talked to potential investors in the business community who are Hibs supporters as well as other potential investors."



Sounds a reasonable idea, if they can convince enough people to put money into it.

If they do, I hope they decide to go with the Stubbs/Dempster revolution and don't get any daft ideas about putting somebody else in charge.

[bigwheel]

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“We are now drawing up a proposal for a Newco Hibernian Fans Co-Operative to own the club and the stadium,” explained the retired midfielder, who made almost 300 appearances for the club."

“The key point is the fans will own a 51 per cent majority shareholding through a membership scheme and we will attract finance for the other 49 per cent."

“We have already talked to potential investors in the business community who are Hibs supporters as well as other potential investors."



Sounds a reasonable idea, if they can convince enough people to put money into it.

If they do, I hope they decide to go with the Stubbs/Dempster revolution and don't get any daft ideas about putting somebody else in charge.

Interesting to note the training academy isn't mentioned ...

[marinello59]

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I can't remember what he said exactly but it was along the lines of "there's been a lot of talk about stage 2 of our plan, stage 2 is to have the fans running the club" he then asked for a show of hands. I'm sure others who were there will be able to say exactly what was said, my memory isn't what it used to be

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I fully support the idea that Petrie should leave the club. I am less sure about Farmer out. I believe Dempster when she says that she is the one in control and am willing to give her a chance to see how things go.

[Keith_M]

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I fully support the idea that Petrie should leave the club. I am less sure about Farmer out. I believe Dempster when she says that she is the one in control and am willing to give her a chance to see how things go.

He has to go eventually. No one lives forever and the guy is already 73.

There needs to be some plan in place to pass ownership on.

[lord bunberry]

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I fully support the idea that Petrie should leave the club. I am less sure about Farmer out. I believe Dempster when she says that she is the one in control and am willing to give her a chance to see how things go.

Farmer out is a hard one, there's no doubt in my mind that he provides a safety net for us, but I don't think it helps having an owner who doesn't have a real passion for the club. If Dempster proves to be a success there's no reason why she wouldn't be kept on under any new regime.

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He asked for a show of hands at the protest, it was almost unanimous

I wasn't there. It might look a bit less than unanimous if everybody with an interest had been.
How could you describe this as a mandate?
Do you have the details of the attendees? Shareholders? Season ticket holders? Hibernians? Hibs.netters?????. Place could have been crawling with Yams and Huns for all you know (admittedly, the showing of hands might have been a height challenge for some of them).

[marinello59]

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He has to go eventually. No one lives forever and the guy is already 73.

There needs to be some plan in place to pass ownership on.

Of course there does. my assumption was that he had one in place or was a long way down the road to having one in place. Paul Kane's idea might be the way forward, I am dismissing nothing without any detail. It's the idea he has a mandate at present that I find strange but it's no big thing really.

[lord bunberry]

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I wasn't there. It might look a bit less than unanimous if everybody with an interest had been.
How could you describe this as a mandate?
Do you have the details of the attendees? Shareholders? Season ticket holders? Hibernians? Hibs.netters?????. Place could have been crawling with Yams and Huns for all you know (admittedly, the showing of hands might have been a height challenge for some of them).

He is only representing the people who were there, he isn't speaking for anyone else

[Hibs90]

I'm out. Don't think it would work.

[Iggy Pope]

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He is only representing the people who were there, he isn't speaking for anyone else

Not a mandate then. At least not one with any structure or cohesion.

[NW]

Let's let the group present properly before any conclusions are jumped too.
It's clear STF wants out and he needs to be given options.

[Ozyhibby]

It's an idea I think that can work and the fact is that we need a succession plan for STF.
What we need to know is how much needs to be raised and is STF a willing seller?

[Peevemor]

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He asked for a show of hands at the protest, it was almost unanimous

Even if the main players remain the same, "Forever Hibernian" should be viewed as a different movement from "Petrie Out" (which wasn't called "Farmer Out" after all). I hope that Kano, their spokesman, is honest enough to be clear about this.

[marinello59]

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Let's let the group present properly before any conclusions are jumped too.
It's clear STF wants out and he needs to be given options.

I agree totally.
It's a pity that the press have tried to portray this as a mass fans movement with Paul Kane acting as the spokesperson. I bet he has made no such claim himself. Early days yet.

[Elephant Stone]

No thanks.

[Ozyhibby]

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No thanks.

Any particular reason or do you just think we should carry on as we are?

[bingo70]

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Any particular reason or do you just think we should carry on as we are?

Forever.....

Farmer won't be here forever and hearts have shown there's an appetite for fan investment.

[easty]

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Any particular reason or do you just think we should carry on as we are?

It doesnt have to be black or white, heads or tails. You can still think change might be a good thing, but not fancy the Paul Kane revolution.