Yams

**Ozyhibby** · 22-06-2014 01:02 PM

Would you say that the yams have strengthened on last season?
So far I don't think they have and they were pretty terrible last year.
While we are obviously still in a sorry state, it's not as though our major rivals are pulling away from us.

***Aldo*** · 22-06-2014 01:13 PM

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Would you say that the yams have strengthened on last season? So far I don't think they have and they were pretty terrible last year. While we are obviously still in a sorry state, it's not as though our major rivals are pulling away from us.

Don't think they have losing quite a few -Stevenson, Hammill and MacDonald did ok for them. Gomis will do a job for them and the Moroccan striker is an unknown quantity.

They will be looking at different quality of player as they now need to live within their means (or they are supposed to anyway)

Plenty time to get players in. Hopefully a bit of quality. As i mentioned in another thread I'd like to see Taylor and McFadden at ER next season but it depends on who Stubbs fancies/wants to bring in.

**~~nribs~~** · 22-06-2014 01:16 PM

Their young guys will be another year older and will have played a season in the top flight together. They will do ok.

**~~The_Horde~~** · 22-06-2014 01:24 PM

Don't care what the yams are doing tbh.

Much more concerned about how hibs are shaping up.

**~~EK_Hibs~~** · 22-06-2014 01:25 PM

Morgaro Gomis is only 28 and easily a better and more useful midfield player than that stupid plumb Hamill.
As mentioned above, no idea if yon Moroccan boy is any better than tattoo man.
James Keatings scored goals for fun in the Celtc reserves and appeared to do well for Hamilton in the Championship last season until a very bad injury (crucial ligament damage?).. So he might bang in 20+ goals but then again he's injury prone so unlikely I would say.

madhatter · 22-06-2014 01:26 PM

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Would you say that the yams have strengthened on last season?
So far I don't think they have and they were pretty terrible last year.
While we are obviously still in a sorry state, it's not as though our major rivals are pulling away from us.

What they should be focusing on strengthening is, the foundations of the Pink Bus Shelter - when is it that the stadium (Main Stand mainly) is going to be assessed as being unsuitable?

They are weakened, and will continue to be with Caveman and 4-6-0 in charge.

They've lost McGowan, MacDonald, Stevenson, Hammill and such and what they have brought in...I wouldn't be excited about those acquisitions.

Are they planning on actually paying Heriot-Watt for the training facilities this year?

Like Rangers, I find it a bizarre notion that debts get wiped and there is talk of "strengthening". Rangers are once again in ludicrous amounts of debt and Hearts will follow suit. Too many Hearts fans in high places, we had Alex Salmond, a labour MP and various other people with power groveling over them.

The only strengthening I want to see from both Rangers and Hearts is of some moral fiber. Pay your bills.

***erin go bragh*** · 22-06-2014 02:24 PM

Couldnt give a monkeys about them tbph .

Ggtth

***offshorehibby*** · 22-06-2014 02:27 PM

To be honest there's far to much worrying on this board as to what hearts are doing, who gives a ****.

**Turkish Green** · 22-06-2014 02:42 PM

As it stands they replaced Stevenson with Keetings and Hammill with Gomis. And brought in El Hannaeiou, so they are up one forward but down 2 keepers.

However their U20s are a year older and more experienced. Their defence still resembles a sieve though.

**#FromTheCapital** · 22-06-2014 02:45 PM

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To be honest there's far to much worrying on this board as to what hearts are doing, who gives a ****.

There's too much worrying about people worrying about what hearts are doing if you ask me. They're our closest rivals, why wouldn't we discuss what they're up to? Especially when, in theory, they'll be the team we battle it out with for that playoff spot next season.

**Ozyhibby** · 22-06-2014 02:47 PM

Saying let's not worry about the opposition is just silly. Hearts will be one of our strongest competitors next season. How well we do will be directly affected by how strong our competitors are.
You can bet that Alan Stubbs will be assessing their strengths and that of all the teams we play.

**HIBERNIAN-0762** · 22-06-2014 03:00 PM

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What they should be focusing on strengthening is, the foundations of the Pink Bus Shelter - when is it that the stadium (Main Stand mainly) is going to be assessed as being unsuitable?

They are weakened, and will continue to be with Caveman and 4-6-0 in charge.

They've lost McGowan, MacDonald, Stevenson, Hammill and such and what they have brought in...I wouldn't be excited about those acquisitions.

Are they planning on actually paying Heriot-Watt for the training facilities this year?

Like Rangers, I find it a bizarre notion that debts get wiped and there is talk of "strengthening". Rangers are once again in ludicrous amounts of debt and Hearts will follow suit. Too many Hearts fans in high places, we had Alex Salmond, a labour MP and various other people with power groveling over them.

The only strengthening I want to see from both Rangers and Hearts is of some moral fiber. Pay your bills.

Spot on. Funny handshakes gets you results like this. Make no mistake.

***lord bunberry*** · 22-06-2014 03:08 PM

What shouldn't be forgotten is how bad they were last year, they went on a really good run when the pressure was off, but can they repeat that sort of form under pressure? There's no doubt that we will have to improve considerably on last season to be in the shake up, but that goes for hearts as well.

**Ozyhibby** · 22-06-2014 03:21 PM

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What shouldn't be forgotten is how bad they were last year, they went on a really good run when the pressure was off, but can they repeat that sort of form under pressure? There's no doubt that we will have to improve considerably on last season to be in the shake up, but that goes for hearts as well.

That was my point. They only won 3 more points than us and a fair chunk of them were when the pressure was off.
So far I would say that they are weaker than last season.
Neilson has said they are looking at 4 more signings. The quality of these four will be what determines whether they are any good.
We only need for Stubbs to have the intelligence of a goldfish to improve on Butcher and we will be better than last season. Add a few good signings and all will be well.

***Col2*** · 22-06-2014 03:59 PM

Hearts remain a weak side reliant on two to three decent young players. People forget how absolutely dreadful they were for 75% of the season. The remaining 25% was much better but only when ALL the pressure was removed as they were relegated. Some on here and mostly all of them seem to remember only the good run!

Gomis has had 2 good seasons 4 years ago but did nothing when he left united the first time. Would i want Hibs to take him? Not fussed either way. They have signed an amateur Moroccan (Leveins target man) and Keating who in unproven but might have potential. They have lost better players in MacDonald and Tattoo Man.

RIGHT NOW they have a marginally better squad than us. But we don't have a manager and expect to bring in far more than them.

We have ability to attract higher wage players and push the boat out for better signings given we have access to funding. Levein's salary takes up 60% of coaching budget (so i am told) hence the really cheap coaching appointments. They can't afford to pay Skacel a player wage as well as coaching.

Lets see where we are on the eve of the new season and i reckon things will look a lot different.

**21.05.2016** · 22-06-2014 04:43 PM

Hearts have lost their main men from last year and the signings they have brought in so far are hardly striking fear in my heart but what they do have is a management structure in place and a team which is unfortunately more than us atm.

Hopefully all goes as planned and Stubbs is announced tomorrow then we can get on with building a decent team. Time is ticking, the faster this can be done then the more time the team have to gel together and for the first time in ages hopefully a bit of stability is restored. It must be unsettling for our players atm with so much upheaval.

**Love the Green** · 22-06-2014 08:19 PM

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Would you say that the yams have strengthened on last season?
So far I don't think they have and they were pretty terrible last year.
While we are obviously still in a sorry state, it's not as though our major rivals are pulling away from us.

Aye right..dont matter who thye sign thye ****** us any time they fancied last season and have bought wisely already and are expected to sign a further 4 players and they aint pulling away from us..every team in our league ois pulling away from us.We are all awaiting a new manager and new signings another fantasy, we cant even kep the playesr we have never mind sign others..joke of a football club once again treating the fans like *****

***Tricla*** · 22-06-2014 08:23 PM

**** *****

***Tricla*** · 22-06-2014 08:25 PM

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Aye right..dont matter who thye sign thye ****** us any time they fancied last season and have bought wisely already and are expected to sign a further 4 players and they aint pulling away from us..every team in our league ois pulling away from us.We are all awaiting a new manager and new signings another fantasy, we cant even kep the playesr we have never mind sign others..joke of a football club once again treating the fans like *****

If we're a joke what does that make ***** and Sevco? We're not a joke IMO. We're just having a bad time of it.

**MyJo** · 22-06-2014 08:26 PM

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If we're a joke what does that make ***** and Sevco? We're nota a joke IMO. We're just having a bad time of it.

True, an underwhelming start to the campaign

***Tricla*** · 22-06-2014 08:26 PM

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True, an underwhelming start to the campaign

It's not started yet.

**MyJo** · 22-06-2014 08:28 PM

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It's not started yet.

Oh man, now I'm super underwhelmed

**Lucius Apuleius** · 22-06-2014 08:31 PM

I am heading towards underwhelment myself. I think maybe one or two more negatives and that will be me. Oh, and if you are underwhelmed by my status then rest assured that I am underwhelmed by your underwhelment.

**MyJo** · 22-06-2014 08:38 PM

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I am heading towards underwhelment myself. I think maybe one or two more negatives and that will be me. Oh, and if you are underwhelmed by my status then rest assured that I am underwhelmed by your underwhelment.

Your the most underwhelming poster I've ever seen, you makes wants to sigh and shrug my shoulders so bad!

**Lee** · 22-06-2014 08:40 PM

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Aye right..dont matter who thye sign thye ****** us any time they fanc season and have bought wisely already and are expected to sign a further 4 players and they aint pulling away from us..every team in our league ois pulling away from us.We are all awaiting a new manager and new signings another fantasy, we cant even kep the playesr we have never mind sign others..joke of a football club once again treating the fans like *****

Really? We sacked our manager who was in many ways responsible for last season's mess and got rid of a number of players who weren't up to scratch, with a few more to follow....and rightly so!

Just need to be patient for a few more days - we don't have a magic wand to have a whole new squad overnight, and I'd rather we took a few days longer and got the right man in the job in place than rush the appointment and be back to square one in a few months time.

New manager will have his targets and Marsella will have player profiles to share too.....hearts can sign another 20 players before we have a manager for all I care, as long as we get it right this time! (And we finish above em and are promoted, of course!) :)

**Lucius Apuleius** · 22-06-2014 08:41 PM

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Your the most underwhelming poster I've ever seen, you makes wants to sigh and shrug my shoulders so bad!

Boohoo. I am underwhelmed by that underwhelming response.

***mutley*** · 22-06-2014 08:41 PM

I couldn't give a toss what the yams are or aren't doing, IMO we spent too much time watching them last season and look what happened to us.

I'm concentrating on Hibs , what they do/who they sign/what they spend has bugger all to do with hibs.

Let them get in with it their way, and we will do it our way

**MyJo** · 22-06-2014 08:42 PM

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Boohoo. I am underwhelmed by that underwhelming response.

I am literally shaking with indifference. Damn you

**Lucius Apuleius** · 22-06-2014 08:43 PM

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Really? We sacked our manager who was in many ways responsible for last season's mess and got rid of a number of players who weren't up to scratch, with a few more to follow....and rightly so!

Just need to be patient for a few more days - we don't have a magic wand to have a whole new squad overnight, and I'd rather we took a few days longer and got the right man in the job in place than rush the appointment and be back to square one in a few months time.

New manager will have his targets and Marsella will have player profiles to share too.....hearts can sign another 20 players before we have a manager for all I care, as long as we get it right this time! (And we finish above em and are promoted, of course!) :)

Far too sensible an answer for here! You will be part of the establishment soon if you are not careful.