What did we achieve today?

[Gus Fring]

#PetrieOut by all accounts had about 2500 Hibs fans which is a good turn out and there's been much mutual back slapping on here and on social media. Petrie hasn't said he's going though and Leeann has reiterated it won't be possible. Do we think he will go?

Whilst all this was going on there were meetings with Leeann but I've yet to see a summary of these meetings? Is that still to come later in the form of some sort of official statement or summary from either those in attendance or the club?

I'm not baiting anyone here, just looks to me like 2500 people stood about in the at park for a few hours and that's it. Would like to know all this effort and arguing with each other was worth it.

[DaveF]

I would imagine the WT group (or groups) will give out information in some form of the meeting with Dempster unless there was a request to keep it all private? Time will tell on that one.

As for the demo, I've no idea what will happen next. Clearly - as indicated at the demo - Kane will request a meeting with the board to further the aim of removing Petrie. With a couple of thousand backing him, he has enough support for Dempster to take him seriously and I hope she does. The whole thing might fall apart or it might actually succeed. I'm proud to have been there and done a small part to try and rid HFC of a man who has been in charge throughout the fall of our once good club.

As for your last point - who is arguing with who?

[Gus Fring]

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I would imagine the WT group (or groups) will give out information in some form of the meeting with Dempster unless there was a request to keep it all private? Time will tell on that one.

As for the demo, I've no idea what will happen next. Clearly - as indicated at the demo - Kane will request a meeting with the board to further the aim of removing Petrie. With a couple of thousand backing him, he has enough support for Dempster to take him seriously and I hope she does. The whole thing might fall apart or it might actually succeed. I'm proud to have been there and done a small part to try and rid HFC of a man who has been in charge throughout the fall of our once good club.

As for your last point - who is arguing with who?

Plenty of heated debates on here recently.

Leeann isn't able to do anything about Rod, the only people who can make the decision are Rod and Sir Tom. The board might be able to vote him out but I don't know for sure.

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Plenty of heated debates on here recently.

Leeann isn't able to do anything about Rod, the only people who can make the decision are Rod and Sir Tom. The board might be able to vote him out but I don't know for sure.

A group of posters on here with opposing views isn't representative of the Hibernian support as a whole is it, so we can cast that aside.

I've said it already, that no-one knows where this will go, but if more fans got behind it then it might just succeed. Petrie needs to wake up to the fact that his continued presence at HFC is wrong and is causing harm. 2000+ felt strongly enough to turn up in support of that.

[hibeeleicester]

Nothing at all. He won't go.

[marinello59]

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Nothing at all. He won't go.

If the pressure continues to be applied he will.

[Pete]

Today showed that there is a large element of the support who want Petrie out completely. The presence of club legends also demonstrated that this isn't a mickey mouse mob who are overreacting. It must give the board food for thought and if Dempster is suggesting ways to bring unity then this must be discussed.

I'm not fussed myself if he stays but if one man's presence in a token role is causing so much discontent then...

[lord bunberry]

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Nothing at all. He won't go.

Rubbish, he will go if enough pressure is put on him. If dictators can be forced out in civil wars then a guy like Petrie can be forced out.

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Nothing at all. He won't go.

That's a possibility and if you are happy with that, then fair enough.

2000+ others had an alternative view today and desperately want a change for the better at our club. I'm hoping he sees sense and goes.

[DaveF]

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Today showed that there is a large element of the support who want Petrie out completely. The presence of club legends also demonstrated that this isn't a mickey mouse mob who are overreacting. It must give the board food for thought and if Dempster is suggesting ways to bring unity then this must be discussed.

I'm not fussed myself if he stays but if one man's presence in a token role is causing so much discontent then...

Good comments

It's all about pressure, which is why its imperative this continues until he is out.

[BoltonHibee]

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Rubbish, he will go if enough pressure is put on him. If dictators can be forced out in civil wars then a guy like Petrie can be forced out.

Why would he go?

[hibeeleicester]

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That's a possibility and if you are happy with that, then fair enough.

2000+ others had an alternative view today and desperately want a change for the better at our club. I'm hoping he sees sense and goes.

Not happy with that at all. I'm just being realistic, LD needs Petrie to start with. That's simple.

To quote LD on the Petrie out campaign, it's a "simplistic view".

It's not a case of Petrie getting chucked out then everything is ok again. Give LD time, she said herself that she is in control. I believe her so that's that.

[Ronniekirk]

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I would imagine the WT group (or groups) will give out information in some form of the meeting with Dempster unless there was a request to keep it all private? Time will tell on that one.

As for the demo, I've no idea what will happen next. Clearly - as indicated at the demo - Kane will request a meeting with the board to further the aim of removing Petrie. With a couple of thousand backing him, he has enough support for Dempster to take him seriously and I hope she does. The whole thing might fall apart or it might actually succeed. I'm proud to have been there and done a small part to try and rid HFC of a man who has been in charge throughout the fall of our once good club.

As for your last point - who is arguing with who?

Good post Dave.

Today was about showing there was support out there that care about our club and think the time is right for a Petrie to move on .I don't think anyone there expects him to walk away and the fore this is just the start .Had only a few hundred turned up today it would be over as there would have been no mandate fmom the fans .

On radio later in the day Lee Ann stated she heard the demonstration when she was at those meetings referred to by poster .We al know the party line will be Lee Ann has had all executive power handed over to her and Petrie won't interfere with that .However she did acknowledge today more openly that she recognises some fans don't believe Petrie will be able to stop meddling ( my words not hers ) Sp today has achieved that first important goal of letting the Board and Sir Tom Farmer know that there is a serious and substantial backing at grass roots level .am sur everyone there today knew someone else that couldn't make it .So nots not undermine what we have started here.
Kano made it clear there will now be further talks with key people and we need to see what that brings .i would hope that in the interests of unity going forward there will be an acknowledgement possibly privately to Kano and whoever else is at these talks that there is a willingness to look at a way Petrie can be bought out and a time frame set for this which mY even have to be the end of this season but no later.( and preferably a lot sooner )

His. Conduit role needs clarified so whoever is doing the negotiating can determine if this no executive role is needed and if so who else could full fill it .Ater a certain hand over period to me it's a complete red herring .

In the meantime Lee Ann will offer more fan representation and provide forums to hear our views and dangle the carrot of Fan representation on the Board She did that at Motherwell .However like it or not a Rod appointed Hera d at this early stage she won't be ruthless and come out on our side She knows she has to be the conduit between us fans and Petrie and try and keep both sides sweet ..

So we need to be in this for the long haul however long it takes or face the consequence of giving the Power back to a Rod and waiting on him getting that S F A post he covets .The question is are we prepared to let him and the clear answer today was no ..

Keep the faith ,Together we can bring about change .

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Not happy with that at all. I'm just being realistic, LD needs Petrie to start with. That's simple.

To quote LD on the Petrie out campaign, it's a "simplistic view".

It's not a case of Petrie getting chucked out then everything is ok again. Give LD time, she said herself that she is in control. I believe her so that's that.

I imagine that was before 2000+ people were outside the west stand chanting for Petrie to go or was it said this afternoon?

I'm right behind Dempster but for everyone to get fully behind the club Petrie needs to leave. It's that simple.

[Ronniekirk]

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Nothing at all. He won't go.

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He won't go without a fight and if it's left to people with defeatist views he won't go .
Thankfully people who care about the club got behind this today Together we are stronger and at least will make people sit up and take notice and cause them to think . would far rather be part of that cause than sit back and do nothing .But if you think he has a vital role to play in the club going forward then it's your opinion and your entitled to it ,but no need on a day
which has been a success to immediately come on and be so negative IMO

[Turkish Green]

I recall in the years BR (before Romanov) when the yams were trying to get rid of Chris Robinson, it took direct action against him and his businesses to get him to move. Despite the protests,Robinson would not resign as he wanted to keep his place on the SFA gravy train. Even when Foulkes and Vlad came along, Robinson tried to maintain his perks.

What I see here is RP using LD as a buffer while he takes a back seat while keeping his SFA blazer and associated perks, and his hands on the ER purse strings.

Apart from showing how many supporters are unhappy with Petrie's stewardship of the club, I doubt today's rally achieved anything meaningful. For me, Petrie can keep his 10% shares but STF's pet accountant must be forced out of the boardroom. His sell-by date has truly passed.


PETRIE OUT

[Ronniekirk]

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Not happy with that at all. I'm just being realistic, LD needs Petrie to start with. That's simple.

To quote LD on the Petrie out campaign, it's a "simplistic view".

It's not a case of Petrie getting chucked out then everything is ok again. Give LD time, she said herself that she is in control. I believe her so that's that.

Fine that's your opinion but to quote your quote some may say yours is a simplistic view

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Fine that's your opinion but to quote your quote some may say yours is a simplistic view

I agree with LD and the poster in that it is a simplistic view.

It is however, a view held by a large percentage of the support, which IS the club and is the main source of income.

It can then be argued that things become very simple: the customer is always right.

[Ronniekirk]

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I agree with LD and the poster in that it is a simplistic view.

It is however, a view held by a large percentage of the support, which IS the club and is the main source of income.

It can then be argued that things become very simple: the customer is always right.

[Onion]

When Petrie appointed LD, he probably thought that would be enough to appease the fans. But he didn't factor in relegation. That has moved the goalposts. If enough pressure is applied, LD will be forced to go to STF and/or the Board and propose Petrie stands down for the sake of the club and to give her a chance to do get job.

This is simply a battle of wills between a man who has no shame and the Hibs fans. If neither backs down then only further damage will be done to the club. The question then is, how much damage is Petrie prepared to heap on the club in order to stay in the chair ? If as he says all decisions are now with LD and he is only a conduit between Borad and STF, why is he determined to hang on? It makes zero sense, so again we are left with no option but to distrust Petrie's motives and word.

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Good post Dave.

Today was about showing there was support out there that care about our club and think the time is right for a Petrie to move on .I don't think anyone there expects him to walk away and the fore this is just the start .Had only a few hundred turned up today it would be over as there would have been no mandate fmom the fans .

On radio later in the day Lee Ann stated she heard the demonstration when she was at those meetings referred to by poster .We al know the party line will be Lee Ann has had all executive power handed over to her and Petrie won't interfere with that .However she did acknowledge today more openly that she recognises some fans don't believe Petrie will be able to stop meddling ( my words not hers ) Sp today has achieved that first important goal of letting the Board and Sir Tom Farmer know that there is a serious and substantial backing at grass roots level .am sur everyone there today knew someone else that couldn't make it .So nots not undermine what we have started here.
Kano made it clear there will now be further talks with key people and we need to see what that brings .i would hope that in the interests of unity going forward there will be an acknowledgement possibly privately to Kano and whoever else is at these talks that there is a willingness to look at a way Petrie can be bought out and a time frame set for this which mY even have to be the end of this season but no later.( and preferably a lot sooner )

His. Conduit role needs clarified so whoever is doing the negotiating can determine if this no executive role is needed and if so who else could full fill it .Ater a certain hand over period to me it's a complete red herring .

In the meantime Lee Ann will offer more fan representation and provide forums to hear our views and dangle the carrot of Fan representation on the Board She did that at Motherwell .However like it or not a Rod appointed Hera d at this early stage she won't be ruthless and come out on our side She knows she has to be the conduit between us fans and Petrie and try and keep both sides sweet ..

So we need to be in this for the long haul however long it takes or face the consequence of giving the Power back to a Rod and waiting on him getting that S F A post he covets .The question is are we prepared to let him and the clear answer today was no ..

Keep the faith ,Together we can bring about change .

Sorry but I think you're being a bit naive. The club doesn't "need" to clarify RP's conduit role any more than it already has. Kano & co. may well be seeking a further meeting but they've already had their answer.

I think we can expect some fairly important announcements in the next couple of weeks as LD starts to implement her plans in addition to, hopefully, some decent signings.

Football supporters are fickle and I can see active support for the campaign dwindling if the summer turns out to be as productive as we all hope.

If, however, LD hints that she's being hindered by interference from RP, I'll start the next campaign myself.

[theonlywayisup]

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#PetrieOut by all accounts had about 2500 Hibs fans which is a good turn out and there's been much mutual back slapping on here and on social media. Petrie hasn't said he's going though and Leeann has reiterated it won't be possible. Do we think he will go?

Whilst all this was going on there were meetings with Leeann but I've yet to see a summary of these meetings? Is that still to come later in the form of some sort of official statement or summary from either those in attendance or the club?

I'm not baiting anyone here, just looks to me like 2500 people stood about in the at park for a few hours and that's it. Would like to know all this effort and arguing with each other was worth it.

You know what! I firmly believe that Rod will still be lurking in the background until STD decides to sell up. So does that mean that the protest is a failure.

No! No! No! Whether Petrie goes or not, today showed how much the Hibs fans love their club. It shows that we will not accept mediocrity anymore. We have to use this negative to build a better future. We.......the fans, the board, the players, the manager need to work together to build that better future. The fans have and always will "stand up and be counted". Now it is up to the board to do the same.

Whether Rod is there or not is not important to me. I would rather he is gone. But today was a fantastic demonstration of how passionate Hibs fans are about their club.

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He won't go without a fight and if it's left to people with defeatist views he won't go .
Thankfully people who care about the club got behind this today Together we are stronger and at least will make people sit up and take notice and cause them to think . would far rather be part of that cause than sit back and do nothing .But if you think he has a vital role to play in the club going forward then it's your opinion and your entitled to it ,but no need on a day
which has been a success to immediately come on and be so negative IMO

If LD supports Petrie and he refuses to go, the next stage is to escalate the pressure.

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Plenty of heated debates on here recently.

Leeann isn't able to do anything about Rod, the only people who can make the decision are Rod and Sir Tom. The board might be able to vote him out but I don't know for sure.

Eh no - its a Private company with 2 major shareholders who appoint the board and could if they so chose remove and replace all of them.

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Why would he go?

If we think about this in business terms for a large core of your customers who say that they shall not buy the product whilst the chairman remains then for the good of the business then chairman must step down. Perhaps we need some shareholders to bring about a motion of no confidence in Petrie. If antone on here can tell me the proper way then i would gladly do it.

[H18sry]

IMO, Petrie will not go anywhere as long as Sir Tom is in control of us, Petrie wants the top job at the SFA and he will only get that if he is affiliated to a club, and that is why he is handing over the reigns to LD. He will just be sitting in the back ground until the SFA job comes along.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The achievement of today if nothing else was to show the doubters out there that there is support for the cause of removing Petrie from Easter Road, 2000 certainly wasn't an underestimation. I drove up from Gala to attend because I think this needs to be done.

Unfortunately I don't think today's events will have any affect on Rod Petrie or Tom Farmer for that matter ....... I seriously think that, certainly in Petrie's opinion, the fans are just a bunch of imbeciles whose opinion means nothing.

That from my point of view is why STF is as much a part of the problem as Petrie ...... He supports him because he keeps the clubs finances under a tight rein. Don't get me wrong, he knows relegation is a bad thing but it doesn't affect him like it does us. Because of that he wont be bothered if it takes the club 10 years to get back to the Premiership so long as he doesn't need to put his own money into the playing side and his muse doesn't take any risks, which he can be 100% sure he wont. The idea that Petrie going will bring unity to the club and be a signal to the support that we are serious about a new direction just doesn't seem to register with him at all.

That is also why the introduction of Leeann Dempster is going to end up a missed opportunity. I get the feeling she could be a real asset, but any request for extra finance .... no matter how good a case she makes for it .... will be put to Petrie who will take it to Farmer, they will have a good laugh about it and then Petrie will go back to Leeann and say "sorry hen, ah did ma best but ye ken what he's like"

In this scenario all I can see is stagnation with Leeann desperately trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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You know what! I firmly believe that Rod will still be lurking in the background until STD decides to sell up. So does that mean that the protest is a failure.

No! No! No! Whether Petrie goes or not, today showed how much the Hibs fans love their club. It shows that we will not accept mediocrity anymore. We have to use this negative to build a better future. We.......the fans, the board, the players, the manager need to work together to build that better future. The fans have and always will "stand up and be counted". Now it is up to the board to do the same.

Whether Rod is there or not is not important to me. I would rather he is gone. But today was a fantastic demonstration of how passionate Hibs fans are about their club.

Spot on mate...it was a defiant coming together of people both fans and ex players who care deeply about our club and its current predicament. Whether it ultimately works who knows but Petrie would be ill advised to either ignore and/or underestimate fan power!!

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Sorry but I think you're being a bit naive. The club doesn't "need" to clarify RP's conduit role any more than it already has. Kano & co. may well be seeking a further meeting but they've already had their answer.

I think we can expect some fairly important announcements in the next couple of weeks as LD starts to implement her plans in addition to, hopefully, some decent signings.

Football supporters are fickle and I can see active support for the campaign dwindling if the summer turns out to be as productive as we all hope.

If, however, LD hints that she's being hindered by interference from RP, I'll start the next campaign myself.

No need to be sorry and no offence taken ,hope you are right about important announcements and decent signings . I still think there is some mileage in this campaign yet though .

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No need to be sorry and no offence taken ,hope you are right about important announcements and decent signings . I still think there is some mileage in this campaign yet though .