Over the last week, everyone linked with His has suffered. With talks of "boycotts" and such a like, the club would surely be more worse off than it already is. For those calling for butchers head, can I remind you of the Mixu, Hughes, caldwerwood and fenlon era where the vast majority of fans called for their heads, now look where the club is. This s***e of constant replacement of managers needs to stop. let Butcher do his job. Give him time, let him bring in players and go from there
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30-05-2014 01:06 AM #1
Back Butcher
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30-05-2014 01:09 AM #2
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30-05-2014 01:33 AM #4
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30-05-2014 01:40 AM #8
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I'm fed up of saying after each manager has left "oh we should have kept him" when In fact it is the fans who are hounding them out. I personally would give Butcher another season, he's been in this position before and even though he just got us relegated I honestly believe he can at least get us back into the play offs. Just give him another season because backing our manager is crucial.
I still don't think we should have sacked Yogi but that's over with
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30-05-2014 02:03 AM #9
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30-05-2014 02:10 AM #10
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Yogi even had us playing in Europe
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30-05-2014 03:06 AM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-05-2014 03:24 AM #12
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I honestly believe we would have done better with no manager at all. The players would have done better just organising training themselves.
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30-05-2014 03:31 AM #13
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30-05-2014 03:49 AM #14
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30-05-2014 03:58 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't think anyone is in any doubt that Petrie should go in the near future (samurai fell on their sword for a lot less) but I'm not happy with the butcher debate being lumped in with the Petrie feeding frenzy. They are two separate issues as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure we wouldn't be lumping the baby out with the bath water.
We all care and are worried about the present situation but why can't people just wait one bloody week to hear what this new CEO has to say? The collective still has the power and the guns will still be trained so what's the urgency to oust Petrie before this appointment. I think it's clear that the intensity will remain and the same questions will still be asked.
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30-05-2014 04:00 AM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What are you trying to say? Are you saying the club are not going out to try and regain top flight football? As bad as the club is at the moment I am sure this is going to be the number 1 aim?
ps. am not saying Butcher is the man to do this.Cougars!!!
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30-05-2014 04:11 AM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
LeeAnn built a strong relationship between the club and the fans at Motherwell and the successful mantra was "TRUST THE BOARD".
Petrie has to leave or totally convince us he has nothing to do with any decision making in order for this to happen at hibs.
I'm behind butcher but if I was Ms. Dempster, the first decision I would make would be to recommend that Petrie leaves immediately in the interest of unity. If she has control and wants results she has to be ruthless if she has such powers.
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30-05-2014 04:56 AM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That happened with the same players that PF worked with enhanced the three loan signing of Mr Butchers choice in January! The quality of football or rather hoofball over that time was a disgrace and the deliberate refusal to play key top players such as Kevin Thomson due to "personal issues" and not injury or lack of match fitness when everyone knew that Thomson was fit but the he had "upset" Mf Butcher in some way was instrumental and significant in causing relegation!
The problems you allude to were the direct result of the selection by Mr Petrie of previous managers who were almost as incompetent as Mr Butcher or did you have a view on who else might have been responsible for that!?Last edited by TornadoHibby; 30-05-2014 at 05:00 AM.
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30-05-2014 04:57 AM #20
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Whilst I may not agree with the post, at least he is being constructive in out darkest hour.
Strange!!
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30-05-2014 05:03 AM #21
I was delighted when Butcher was appointed. A high profile apparently successful manager who apparently had the bottle to challenge Petrie's tight fisted ways.
What did we get? A man who has introduced a horrible horrible style of hoofball; who failed to take any of the many chances to preserve the club's top flight position; who failed to exploit the winter transfer window; who created a divided dressing room; who allowed his deputy to become involved in a continuous swearing match with folk sitting nearby and who failed to lead or inspire the tremendously loyal fan base.
Has he been back in front of he camera to properly apologise; to share his vision; to explain how he is going to turn things round; to say why he failed and why this won't be repeated? No he has not.
He's had his chance and failed miserably. He's lost our respect and trust.
If he had an ounce of integrity he would have resigned immediately, he did not.
He must go and he must take Petrie with him.
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30-05-2014 05:37 AM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-05-2014 06:06 AM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What's your agenda?
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30-05-2014 06:50 AM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Another ridiculous post with no logic as to why we should give time to a man with a solid & consistent record of failure & awful football.
As for this bring in his own players nonsense. Any idiot with an understanding of the concept of management would recognise what a ridiculous notion that is.
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30-05-2014 06:55 AM #26
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Butcher came in and turned a poorly performing team into pub team.
Thank dog he only had half a season to ruin them completely and get us relegated.
Imagine what carnage he can cause if we give him longer
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30-05-2014 06:57 AM #27
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[QUOTE=J1875M;4039582]Over the last week, everyone linked with His has suffered. With talks of "boycotts" and such a like, the club would surely be more worse off than it already is. For those calling for butchers head, can I remind you of the Mixu, Hughes, caldwerwood and fenlon era where the vast majority of fans called for their heads, now look where the club is. This s***e of constant replacement of managers needs to stop. let Butcher do his job. Give him time, let him bring in players and go from there[/QUOTE
aye right.
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30-05-2014 06:57 AM #28
So, we get rid of Petrie and Butcher, what next? Butcher will require a payoff so we will have less money to strengthen/rebuild the team which could make it very difficult to come back up at the first attempt. It was the fans that shouted to get PF out and TB in. We got what we wanted and now we want another Manager in. How long will the next one get? Perhaps he will be allowed to lose a few games and then we will be shouting to get him out as well. It is a vicious circle that has to stop.
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30-05-2014 07:46 AM #29
[QUOTE=RedHibby;4039702]So, we get rid of Petrie and Butcher, what next? Butcher will require a payoff so we will have less money to strengthen/rebuild the team which could make it very difficult to come back up at the first attempt. It was the fans that shouted to get PF out and TB in. We got what we wanted and now we want another Manager in. How long will the next one get? Perhaps he will be allowed to lose a few games and then we will be shouting to get him out as well. It is a vicious circlethat has to stop.[/QUO
Your spot on mate
We simply can't afford to sack TB, MM, & SM
The compensation we pay out to sacked managers is Staggering
Think of the money that has been wasted in pay offs, when it should of been invested in the Team.
I would personally give Butcher next season with his own team.
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