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    What bearing does Petrie have on you going ?

    I've read so many

    "If Petrie goes many fans will return"
    "Won't be back until he is gone "

    I may be different from many but I couldn't give a **** who runs the club as long as I'm watching decent fair on the pitch , Petrie has backed managers with the third or fourth biggest budgets for a few years now , sheep replacing hearts this year above us I'd guess .

    He has built a stadium and a training ground which doesn't please me greatly as I'd rather have seen more investment on the playing side , then WHOA I thought , that money with the rubbish brought in could also have been squandered , leaving us ****ed like the Gunts across the city.

    We can move on from this as fans and a team and a club , Dempster will over see that , Petrie will stay to shield her flak for the first season, which with relegation and possibly staying down a real threat , is a good move.


    He simply isn't an issue come a Saturday, and I'm sure many who roll out this line, may be non attenders looking for an excuse !!!


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    Absolutely none.
    The only influence in that decision for me is what is on the park.
    Is it what I want to spend my money on?
    Is it entertaining?
    Is it value for money.
    if it is ,I'll go. If not I won't bother.

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    Amen to all of that - a rare slice of common sense amongst the doom and the gloom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18Y GW View Post
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    I've read so many

    "If Petrie goes many fans will return"
    "Won't be back until he is gone "

    I may be different from many but I couldn't give a **** who runs the club as long as I'm watching decent fair on the pitch , Petrie has backed managers with the third or fourth biggest budgets for a few years now , sheep replacing hearts this year above us I'd guess .

    He has built a stadium and a training ground which doesn't please me greatly as I'd rather have seen more investment on the playing side , then WHOA I thought , that money with the rubbish brought in could also have been squandered , leaving us ****ed like the Gunts across the city.

    We can move on from this as fans and a team and a club , Dempster will over see that , Petrie will stay to shield her flak for the first season, which with relegation and possibly staying down a real threat , is a good move.


    He simply isn't an issue come a Saturday, and I'm sure many who roll out this line, may be non attenders looking for an excuse !!!
    You have answered your own question. You certainly won't be watching good football if he stays along with TB. He's backed managers 3rd and 4th signings not first.

    He should have walked soon as the stadium was done, some think sooner. He is the huge dark shadow hanging over this club. He's the one who has the noose firmly round the clubs neck and he's the one that until he's gone we will achieve nothing at all.

    The facts are all in front if you and frankly I'm surprised you don't mind him being here when he is the main issue.

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    None. I guess I've well and truly bought into the concept that this is my club and I will support it through good and bad times irrespective of who the manager is or who is running the club...do I have something written on my face by the way?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIP Bestie View Post
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    Absolutely none.
    The only influence in that decision for me is what is on the park.
    Is it what I want to spend my money on?
    Is it entertaining?
    Is it value for money.
    if it is ,I'll go. If not I won't bother.
    So you are saying you will only back the team if it's worth watching? You mustn't have been at ER this season then right? I'm going down to renew my seat on Monday. I just can't not watch us on a sat.

    I'm just hoping Petrie is long gone along with many at the club but come sat afternoon my support for the team on the park will be 100%.

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    Why must we repeatedly have to listen to pro-Petrie apologists trotting put myth after myth. The facts are there for all of us to see.
    Fourth largest budget.
    Massive support base.
    Fantastic infrastructure.
    Relegation.
    Massive staff turnover. Managers, CEO"s, players.
    Atrocious PR.
    A reputation as a soft club.
    Disconnect with supporters.
    No shared vision.
    Former players out in the cold.
    No performance targets or culture.
    Poor leadership and man management.
    Litany of underachievement in big games and derbies.
    Graveyard for careers - coaches and players.
    No qualications for the role.
    Out of his depth.
    A millstone around our neck.
    A dead man walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18Y GW View Post
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    I've read so many

    "If Petrie goes many fans will return"
    "Won't be back until he is gone "

    I may be different from many but I couldn't give a **** who runs the club as long as I'm watching decent fair on the pitch , Petrie has backed managers with the third or fourth biggest budgets for a few years now , sheep replacing hearts this year above us I'd guess .

    He has built a stadium and a training ground which doesn't please me greatly as I'd rather have seen more investment on the playing side , then WHOA I thought , that money with the rubbish brought in could also have been squandered , leaving us ****ed like the Gunts across the city.

    We can move on from this as fans and a team and a club , Dempster will over see that , Petrie will stay to shield her flak for the first season, which with relegation and possibly staying down a real threat , is a good move.


    He simply isn't an issue come a Saturday, and I'm sure many who roll out this line, may be non attenders looking for an excuse !!!
    A few seasons back no impact, now everything.

    "If you don't support this ****, then you'll get worse" messages. GTF you would never get away with it any other business, the guy has wasted so much money with managerial change and also his apparent penny pinching which would not see us in this situ now. How can a team with the a top five budget, minus Rangers and a doomed Jambo's get relegated ffs!!!!,

    Aberdeen, St Johnstone, Dundee Utd, & Motherwell all got it right without those two challenging to some degree or another without breaking the bank too.

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    The folk that use either " I will come back if " or " I'm finished with Scottish football till " in any sentence deserve to be ignored as I have not noticed any increase in the support since The Rangers became a The, or Hearts were punished to the full extent of the rules, or any of our long line of managers have been sacked (insert name as appropriate) now it's " I'll no be back till Petrie/Farmer/Butcher/Malpas/and Chicken Tikka have all gone " rest assured the crowd will be much the same as you would expect
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    It makes all the difference. As RIP explained above we have got steadily worse under his leadership culminating with that humiliating relegation at our home last Sunday.

    I wont be renewing my season ticket while that clown has anything to do with our club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocopops1875 View Post
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    The folk that use either " I will come back if " or " I'm finished with Scottish football till " in any sentence deserve to be ignored as I have not noticed any increase in the support since The Rangers became a The, or Hearts were punished to the full extent of the rules, or any of our long line of managers have been sacked (insert name as appropriate) now it's " I'll no be back till Petrie/Farmer/Butcher/Malpas/and Chicken Tikka have all gone " rest assured the crowd will be much the same as you would expect
    Disagree. Season ticket sales will be significantly down if petrie and butcher remain IMO.

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    Hitler could be chairman of Hibs, and if we were playing good football and punching our weight our crowds would soar. It makes no difference to me who is in charge as chairman, as long as they do their best for the football club.

    Thats clearly not the case with Petrie, and thats why he's such a hated figure and has to leave the club 100%, none of this hanging about in the background like a large smell of sheite.

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    I can't see any positives in him staying. If the fans rally to the cause and turn up 10,000 plus every week will his vanity let him appreciate that you can back the team without backing him? Not so sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Franck View Post
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    Disagree. Season ticket sales will be significantly down if petrie and butcher remain IMO.
    I suspect they will be down regardless
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    I wont be back at ER until there has been significant change at the top, until we stop being run like a business, being run to break even at all costs, this is what has got us relegated. If there is no desire for success then we will only slide further and further down.

    I will still go and support my team next season however it will be at Alloa, Falkirk, Cowdenbeath etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickShoes View Post
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    I wont be back at ER until there has been significant change at the top, until we stop being run like a business, being run to break even at all costs, this is what has got us relegated. If there is do desire for success then we will only slide further and further down.

    I will still go and support my team next season however it will be at Alloa, Falkirk, Cowdenbeath etc
    That's what I will be doing.

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    Petrie's presence in the board room has no impact on my love of Hibernian FC.

    I've been attending matches at Easter Road and all over Scotland since both Rod and I were in short trousers, and I will still be going when he's gone. Whether that's next season or further in the future doesn't matter to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    Petrie's presence in the board room has no impact on my love of Hibernian FC.

    I've been attending matches at Easter Road and all over Scotland since both Rod and I were in short trousers, and I will still be going when he's gone. Whether that's next season or further in the future doesn't matter to me.
    This.

    But I understand that some are at the point where Petrie's toxic presence is too much for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_1875 View Post
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    Petrie's presence in the board room has no impact on my love of Hibernian FC.

    I've been attending matches at Easter Road and all over Scotland since both Rod and I were in short trousers, and I will still be going when he's gone. Whether that's next season or further in the future doesn't matter to me.
    Agree..... I'm just praying that Leeann D does indeed become the REAL driving force.


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    I agree in principle with the idea that I dont really care who is running the club provided we are successful, but the fact is we arent, and now find ourselves relegated. Someone has to take responsibility for our steady decline over the last 7-8 years, and as far as I can tell the only ever presents during that time are those in charge at the top!

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    So you are saying you will only back the team if it's worth watching? You mustn't have been at ER this season then right? I'm going down to renew my seat on Monday. I just can't not watch us on a sat.

    I'm just hoping Petrie is long gone along with many at the club but come sat afternoon my support for the team on the park will be 100%.
    C'mon guys don't lets start another "Uber Fan" discussion .
    Each and every one has the right to spend their money as they wish and personally I have no problem if someone goes twice a season or twenty two times / ST holder or "walk up"
    My mates all fall into one or other of these categories and it makes not one whit of difference when we are in the pub talking "HIBS" over a pint or two
    WE ARE ALL HIBBEES


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    So you are saying you will only back the team if it's worth watching? You mustn't have been at ER this season then right? I'm going down to renew my seat on Monday. I just can't not watch us on a sat.

    I'm just hoping Petrie is long gone along with many at the club but come sat afternoon my support for the team on the park will be 100%.
    Why don't you look at people's posts before you put your own spin on things.
    i said that Petrie being on the board or in any other position would not influence my decision to go or not.
    My expectations over the years haven't been very high, you don't know me so please don't make assumptions on what level of entertainment would keep me away from supporting my team

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    Absolutely none.

    RP could be blamed for appointing what turned out to be poor Managers but hindsight is a great thing. These same appointments were accepted at the time as being "a good choice" by probably a majority of the fans.

    I certainly can't blame RP for the inept and disgustingly poor performances on the park. The Manager and playing staff must accept total responsibility for that.

    It's not that long ago that RP achieved almost cult status on this Messageboard for the hard ball approach he adopted to transfer negotiations yet he's now getting lambasted for being tight fisted etc etc. I'm far from being a RP sympathiser by the way - but that's the way I see things.

    Where we go from here is anybody's guess and I've not got the answers. If I do come across any Hibby friendly millionaires in the next couple of days then I'll maybe tap them up just to see what's what.

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    He does not give one **** about what happens on the pitch, as that gutless statement written before and delivered after the game on Sunday proves. People want to affect change, as we have been allowed to drift knowingly into this state for far too long. If this is the only action they feel will get this to happen then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickShoes View Post
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    I wont be back at ER until there has been significant change at the top, until we stop being run like a business, being run to break even at all costs, this is what has got us relegated. If there is no desire for success then we will only slide further and further down.

    I will still go and support my team next season however it will be at Alloa, Falkirk, Cowdenbeath etc
    This - Raith and Cowden are bankers. Alloa and Falkirk likely too. No more ER until RP is gone completely..

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    As much as I think Petrie needs to move on I shall continue to attend. I am not one for biting off my nose to spite my face. Watching Hibs on a Saturday afternoon is what I do and shall continue to do regardless of who is in charge.

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    I'm one of these fans that the club must love as I will continue going to games regardless of how bad we are, regardless of which league we're in and regardless of who our manager or chairman are.

    I fully accept that others disagree with that point of view though and understand the reasons why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    Absolutely none.

    RP could be blamed for appointing what turned out to be poor Managers but hindsight is a great thing. These same appointments were accepted at the time as being "a good choice" by probably a majority of the fans.

    I certainly can't blame RP for the inept and disgustingly poor performances on the park. The Manager and playing staff must accept total responsibility for that.

    It's not that long ago that RP achieved almost cult status on this Messageboard for the hard ball approach he adopted to transfer negotiations yet he's now getting lambasted for being tight fisted etc etc. I'm far from being a RP sympathiser by the way - but that's the way I see things.

    Where we go from here is anybody's guess and I've not got the answers. If I do come across any Hibby friendly millionaires in the next couple of days then I'll maybe tap them up just to see what's what.
    That's a bit Pontius Pilatey.

    There are other aspects to his role other than appointing managers.

    It's his role to set targets and to state and develop the ambition of the club. It's his role to stick up for the club when there is outside influences bringing it down. It's his role to set the standards at the Youth Academy and ensure it's proving it's worth. It's his role to back any manager to the hilt on footballing decisions. It's his role to make the club as close to the fans as possible. All these things if not carried out properly have knock-on effects on the field. Undermine the manager in one aspect and he can lose respect in every other.

    For his attributes in handling money and turning our cash into infrastructure. He's just not a very good football Chairman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    That's a bit Pontius Pilatey.

    There are other aspects to his role other than appointing managers.

    It's his role to set targets and to state and develop the ambition of the club. It's his role to stick up for the club when there is outside influences bringing it down. It's his role to set the standards at the Youth Academy and ensure it's proving it's worth. It's his role to back any manager to the hilt on footballing decisions. It's his role to make the club as close to the fans as possible. All these things if not carried out properly have knock-on effects on the field. Undermine the manager in one aspect and he can lose respect in every other.

    For his attributes in handling money and turning our cash into infrastructure. He's just not a very good football Chairman.
    Good post and fully agree.

    Yes, I'm agreeing with you :D

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    It makes no difference to me now. The damage has already been done and although I have said it before and was wrong, I'll say it again; I don't think it will get worse with him being around. I am not sure what he does now that a new CEO is coming in but I don't think he can cause any more damage than he already has done. For all his apologists though it's surely time to realise that business acuemen isn't only about getting top dollar for players as we have in the past but also about being successful in your main stream business, which for us is football. He has failed spectacularly in that over the years and some of us have seen this coming but gave up bumping our gums about it because we were falling on deaf ears. I'll go with him there and hope that his influence is less than it has been. He might be useful for consultation giving his SPL and football experience even if it is a matter of eliminating his advice from the possible options.

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