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    (NHC) Islam Feruz

    Apparently a rumour flying around that he has decided to turn his back on Scotland and doesn't want to be considered for selection. Shame as I think he has a bright future ahead of him. Has represented the national team at all youth levels from U16's right up to the U21's. Has looked very good for the Chelsea reserves/U21's this past season. Won't be surprised to see if England come calling and snap him up.


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    Think that was inevitable as soon as he went to Chelsea tbh.

    The lads got bags of talent and he'll have English players and fans in his ear all the time telling him he's better off playing for them.
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    Read that in the Metro this morning, he's refused his call up for the games.

    However, it also said that he now can't switch. I know that certainly nowadays you need to have played a first team game to have "cemented" your nationality, but that wasn't always the case, so maybe he can't change?

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    It's up to him. He wasn't born in Scotland and if he doesn't class himself as Scottish I have no problem with that. Seems like a really good prospect though.

    I'm far more annoyed with the likes of James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady not representing their own country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    It's up to him. He wasn't born in Scotland and if he doesn't class himself as Scottish I have no problem with that. Seems like a really good prospect though.

    I'm far more annoyed with the likes of James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady not representing their own country.

    That's how I see it too.
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    Looks like we've lost a great, talented young lad. Pity!!

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    He comes across as a bit of a bellend tbh.

    I'm no Celtic supporter but after all the club done for him he should've shown them far more loyalty.
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    Shame.

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    He comes across as a bit of a bellend tbh.

    I'm no Celtic supporter but after all the club done for him he should've shown them far more loyalty.
    This. He seems to think he is special. If he doesn't want to play that's his problem, good luck to him but he does seem to have a bad attitude esp after being hooked against England last year

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    This. He seems to think he is special. If he doesn't want to play that's his problem, good luck to him but he does seem to have a bad attitude esp after being hooked against England last year

    What happened against England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    It's up to him. He wasn't born in Scotland and if he doesn't class himself as Scottish I have no problem with that. Seems like a really good prospect though.

    I'm far more annoyed with the likes of James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady not representing their own country.
    I agree shocking decisions IMO

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    My understanding is that the rules that allowed him to play for Scotland wouldn't have allowed him to play for England anyway, as it was the "5 years education" rule or something like that.

    Will be interesting to hear the full story - no point judging him on what little has been reported so far.

    I suppose if, for example, someone lives in Somalia for 10 years, in Scotland for 6 years and in England for 4 years, there's no real reason to expect that he would consider himself Scottish. Of course, considering yourself Scottish and wanting to play international football for Scotland may well be two very different things. Only Islam Feruz knows the truth.

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    What happened against England?
    I believe he was hooked early in a 6-0 defeat and wasn't very happy about it. Has since refuses 2 separate call ups

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    I believe he was hooked early in a 6-0 defeat and wasn't very happy about it. Has since refuses 2 separate call ups
    I would give my left nut to play for Scotland and this big headed fanny refuses? **** him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    My understanding is that the rules that allowed him to play for Scotland wouldn't have allowed him to play for England anyway, as it was the "5 years education" rule or something like that.

    Will be interesting to hear the full story - no point judging him on what little has been reported so far.

    I suppose if, for example, someone lives in Somalia for 10 years, in Scotland for 6 years and in England for 4 years, there's no real reason to expect that he would consider himself Scottish. Of course, considering yourself Scottish and wanting to play international football for Scotland may well be two very different things. Only Islam Feruz knows the truth.
    Although you might expect a bit of gratitude for the country that took his family in and provided schooling etc, not to mention all the coaching he had from SFA trained coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    Apparently a rumour flying around that he has decided to turn his back on Scotland and doesn't want to be considered for selection. Shame as I think he has a bright future ahead of him. Has represented the national team at all youth levels from U16's right up to the U21's. Has looked very good for the Chelsea reserves/U21's this past season. Won't be surprised to see if England come calling and snap him up.
    That was after Scotland fought for him to stay in the country and not be deported. Now he is above himself and forgets where he came from. Sounds a bit like the Mo Farah situation to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgiegreens View Post
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    That was after Scotland fought for him to stay in the country and not be deported. Now he is above himself and forgets where he came from. Sounds a bit like the Mo Farah situation to me.
    Who was trying to kick him out Scotland when Scotland fought for him to stay?

    And what about this is similar to the Mo Farah situation?

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    I don't think he would make the grade for the full Scotland or England squad, far too lightweight and not enough talent to compensate. Plus what you read online his attitude isn't exactly great. Would love to be proved wrong but he isn't going to make it the way some people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Who was trying to kick him out Scotland when Scotland fought for him to stay?

    And what about this is similar to the Mo Farah situation?
    That he is from Somalia. Erm that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeklipse View Post
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    That he is from Somalia. Erm that's it.
    Yup.

    Bloody foreigners coming over here, taking our jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Yup.

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    I remember reading a while ago that Chelsea might be looking to let Islam go, if thats the case then I think the boy himself might see this Honk Kong tourney as the last chance saloon for him at Chelsea, a final throw of the dice to save his Chelsea career, if that's the case then I've no real problem with him pulling out of the squad

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    I remember reading a while ago that Chelsea might be looking to let Islam go
    I read something similar but it had quotes from an 'unnamed' Chelsea coach saying that he was going to get launched for not being good enough, being lazy, bad timekeeping, suspect attitude - just a bit of a twat all round really, with ideas well above his station.

    Obviously I hate Celtic with a passion but he treated them appallingly. What goes around, etc.

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    Another reason why I don't think the schooling rule works.

    The only country you should be eligible to play for should be the country of your birth or the country of birth of either of your parents.

    That way, there's no grey areas.

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    It seems his head is easily turned. I understood he is swayed by wanting to play in African Nations like some of his fellow team-mates. It's not easy being black in Scotland and he may feel more at home in a more welcoming metropolis like London. His attitude does seem to be a problem too, but like other posters, I'm more disappointed that Scots born and bred players refuse to play than those with transitory roots here who can choose who they want to play for as far as I care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    Another reason why I don't think the schooling rule works.

    The only country you should be eligible to play for should be the country of your birth or the country of birth of either of your parents.

    That way, there's no grey areas.
    So a family could move across here with a young child who grows up in this country, considers himself Scottish wouldn't be eligible to play for Scotland because he spent the first year or two of his life in another country?

    I would find that a bit harsh and there's bound to be a time that comes up, especially with the amount of eastern Europeans that moved across here over the last few years.

    I know it's a different sport but that might be the case with Elena baltacha, by your logic I don't think she would have been able to represent Britain. (Apologies if I got her situation wrong but think I read she was 2 when her dad joined st johnstone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trig View Post
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    Another reason why I don't think the schooling rule works.

    The only country you should be eligible to play for should be the country of your birth or the country of birth of either of your parents.

    That way, there's no grey areas.
    Disagree because if a kid receives his entire education, including how to play football, in Scotland then surely he is a Scottish product and entitled to repay that education by representing us? In that scenario they would have more affinity with Scotland than with a country that they only lived in for a couple of years as a baby.
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    I would give my left nut to play for Scotland and this big headed fanny refuses? **** him.
    This, clearly his head has been turned. He can do one and I hope he represents no country.

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    From what I believe the 3 options available to him are Somalia, Tanzania & Zanzibar...hardly footballing giants and none of which have done as much for him as Scotland and none are anywhere near as good as us either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHibs1982 View Post
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    From what I believe the 3 options available to him are Somalia, Tanzania & Zanzibar...hardly footballing giants and none of which have done as much for him as Scotland and none are anywhere near as good as us either!
    Could he not choose another country in Britain as technically speaking he was educated in the United kingdom, rather than it being just schooled in Scotland?

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