From my own recollection, I can't remember us having such a solid series of: stonewall penalties being rejected, goals being chopped off, rebounds from blocks falling to opposition defenders rather than our players, hitting the woodwork, hitting the woodwork or an unbelievable save landing at one of their players, and lastly, the sheer amount of time wasting teams do against us to break our rhythm which has, all season, went unpunished.
Killie timewasting in the first half when we were on top. I remember their left-back (in the first half), for a long throw-in, went for walkies and rather than getting a booking just got told to hurry it up. Their goalkeeper did the same.
I cannot remember such a barren run of referee decisions in our favour. Such an horrendous amount of timewasting going unpunished and woodwork and rebounds not falling for us.
We've been atrocious but this hasn't helped!
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13-05-2014 11:53 AM #1madhatterLeft by mutual consent!
Most disastrous run - most unlucky as well?
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13-05-2014 11:56 AM #2
Completely agree, on any other day, both Partick and Killie recently in particular, would of been thumped by us!
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13-05-2014 12:01 PM #4
I don't buy into this. You cannot have most of the game, fail to convert, and be so soft as to let the opposition go up the park and score against the run of play EVERY week, and put it down to luck.
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13-05-2014 12:01 PM #6
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Hopefully crosses into the box and relying on the ball falling to is. Create good enough chances and we will score, no luck required
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13-05-2014 12:03 PM #7madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You are entirely right but there is still a portion of "rub of the green".
Triple handball from St Mirren defender in last minute and no penalty is the "rub of the green" scenario. St Mirren player didn't make that luck. They got lucky.
Also, winning the lottery involves luck. Apart from buying 100k tickets - this kind of luck can not be manufactured.
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13-05-2014 12:05 PM #8madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Did I say I put down their performances down to luck? No. I stated that looking back, we've had some stinking luck as well...
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13-05-2014 12:13 PM #12
Only game I've been to this season (apart from the playoff 2nd leg) was the game just before Christmas (21/12/13) v St. Johnstone 0-0, with a late on stonewaller penalty not given for Collins getting his shooting leg taken out from under him.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/page/TV...~71470,00.html
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13-05-2014 12:33 PM #14
Am I right in saying the last time we led a game was between the 89th and 90-something minute against Motherwell?
Having those extra two points would probably have made us safe. Actually turning that game from a losing position to a win mightve done wonders to us.
Last season we blamed bottom six on bad luck as well. Was far more credible that time round. Yes the St Mirren handball and Tynecastle offside didn't help and would've made all the difference, but the lack of fortune doesn't outweigh the ineptitude sadly.
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If a few of those decisions had went our way - like the penalty against St. J. and Forsters equaliser against the mutants - we could maybe have had an extra, say, 5 or 6 points and not been in this position.
Injuries to Harris, Hanlon and Thomson have been unlucky as well, although Pat or TB should have had better cover in the squad than what we have at the moment.
I think we will create chances in the play-off, and I think we will get 2 or 3 goals over the 2 games and will do enough to stay up - just.
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13-05-2014 12:43 PM #17
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13-05-2014 12:47 PM #19
Since the Aberdeen game away in January we have been utter gash. The last few games I will admit we have been unlucky when it comes to not getting the breaks in the opposition box. What about the previous 15 games? Some of these games failed to see us create any chances and very little attempts at goal.
The last few games we have been unlucky, yes, however prior to that we were honking without a doubt.
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13-05-2014 12:49 PM #20
I totally agree with the OP, I remember thinking how unlucky we were seven times at home to Malmö when the ball mysteriously entered our goals.
Damn that bad luck!
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Pretty much a stick-on that most of them would be scored, percentage of penalties scored for the vast majority of clubs is pretty high.
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13-05-2014 02:15 PM #23
Not sure I buy this. Yeah, a few decisions haven't gone our way this year, that's fair enough, but these things always have a way of balancing themselves out. Referees are not to blame for a poor goalscoring record. The fact it comes up as an argument just outlines how poor a goalscoring record we have. Referees, in awarding penalties, probably contribute 5/6 goals a season per team, the fact that's a number we're worried about is laughable. Teams taking it slow and disrupting our rhythm isn't bad luck, it's them knowing exactly how they need to play against us to get us rattled and start making mistakes. The ball not falling to a Hibs player off a save or when coming off the woodwork usually comes down to a lack of anticipation by the players.
One feature of our play I've noticed recently is the sheer number of shots we seem to be taking that get nowhere near the goal. Everything seems to get blocked by an opposition defender. There's only ever one reason for something like that though, and it's that we're making the wrong decisions or not getting the ball to the play quickly enough, and when we do get it there the player spend too long humming and hawing to get a shot away. I overheard people in the ground saying it was unlucky the opposition always seemed to get a foot in the way, it's not unlucky, it's just that we're not good enough to beat a defence.
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You would have to honestly compared poor decisions against Hibs with poor decisions against everyone else. I bet supporters of most other teams could rustle up another 6 points due to bad refereeing.
Just having a quick look at stats, e.g. penalties awarded and conceded. Hibs only have 2 for and 4 against. Motherwell also have 2 for but 6 against.
Also note Hibs had third worst discipline after Thistle and yams.Last edited by (((Fergus))); 13-05-2014 at 02:26 PM.
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13-05-2014 02:43 PM #25
I said this the other day, as much as we have been terrible, we have been bloody unlucky more often than not this season.
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13-05-2014 02:59 PM #27
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Luck can be decisive in one or two games. But, the league table doesn't lie. If you finish 11th it means you're the 11th best team. We're in the playoffs on merit and merit alone.
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13-05-2014 03:11 PM #29
I can recall stonewall penalties being not given in several games
St Mirren (A): 0-0, foul on Collins
St Johnstone (H): 0-0, foul on Collins
St Mirren (H): 2-3, handball
Celtic (H): 0-4, score was 1-0 at the time, foul on Collins
Killie (H): 0-1, foul on Nelson
Hearts (A): 0-2, Forster goal wrongly disallowed a 1-0
Aberdeen (A): 0-1, foul on Heffernan at 0-0? (Although they should have had a penalty just after aswell)
Aberdeen (H): 0-2, foul on Collins at 1-0
Yes, granted, we've been awful this season and I'm not making excuses for the mess the club is in, but we have had next to no breaks this season.
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