still behind Butcher?

[GreenLake]

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I agree. Scott Robbo is someone who seems to give a monkeys. I would make him captain next season. Unfortunately we will have to retain some of the hopeless berks or we won't be able to field a team at all! The question is who?

I never thought of him as captain, but you are dead right, he should be.

[bingo70]

I think he'll fail and never thought he was the right man for the job.

That said though he needs to be given time. Not to bring in his own players but to implement his attitude throughout the club.

Not sure if that makes me behind him or not?

[Dashing Bob S]

Yes. He inherited spineless dross, gave them an initial rocket and a chance to prove themselves, and got a decent initial reaction. Now they've reverted to type, as a bunch of mollycoddled wimps who think they are better than they are and don't want to put in a sustained effort.

Now he has to clear them all out and bring his own men, who will play with a bit of pride and passion. Most of all, we need a couple of real leaders and mentally strong players in that side, who will drive the others over the line. There doesn't seem to be many big personalities in the current Hibs side.

[hibsbollah]

Yes.

My worry is he does 'a Collins' and walks, if he realises his transfer targets are beyond what we're willing to spend.

[The Sea-gull]

I am still more than happy to leave full judgement till this time next year. He has gone down in my estimation in recent weeks though. He is stuck with a load of guff but get the feeling he has told them that is what he thinks a bit too vocally and now a lot of them don't give a stuff playing for him, they want out and can't wait for season to end so he us having a real job getting any sort of tune out of them.

[The_Todd]

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Yes.

My worry is he does 'a Collins' and walks, if he realises his targets are beyond what we're willing to spend.

He managed 4th with Inverness's budget, surely budget won't be an issue.

[stu in nottingham]

No, not really. I don't enjoy the 'style' of football he appears to espouse.

[weonlywon6-2]

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I am.
He has made some strange team selections mind, but it must be difficult to pick exactly what is our best team is out of this bunch of misfits.
He and Petrie better get the finger out as soon as the season ends, if not sooner, to get rid of this lot and get some decent players in.

yes

[happiehibbie]

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No, not really. I don't enjoy the 'style' of football he appears to espouse.

I agree with you

[blackpoolhibs]

If he does not improve this shower of crap next season, then we all know what will happen. I am beginning to have my doubts he can, but he has done well with ICT so does need a lot more time than he's currently had.

The main reason i stopped watching Hibs was they bored me rigid with the style of play, after an initial upturn in form and creating more chances, this lot are as bad if not worse than Fenlons duds, and even worse to watch.

I dont give a **** about what anyone thinks about what i'm going to say, but Hibs have had their last penny from me for the foreseeable future.

If that makes me a glory hunter then bring the glory on.

Aye and Petrie and STF, just go. Both of you have outstayed your welcome and are the problem not the solver of the problems.

[Hiber-nation]

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No, not really. I don't enjoy the 'style' of football he appears to espouse.

That's what I thought when there was talk of him being appointed. However when he was appointed I was behind him and still am, you can't be a crap manager doing the job he did with ICT and he has inherited some truly awful football players.

The thing that does really bug me though is the team selections. I don't get all the chopping and changing. Does not make any sense to me at all.

[Macaroon]

God how I'm tired of hearing "until he brings in his own squad."

[DAVE1875]

Reserving judgement until next season

[stevejordan]

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If he does not improve this shower of crap next season, then we all know what will happen. I am beginning to have my doubts he can, but he has done well with ICT so does need a lot more time than he's currently had.

The main reason i stopped watching Hibs was they bored me rigid with the style of play, after an initial upturn in form and creating more chances, this lot are as bad if not worse than Fenlons duds, and even worse to watch.

I dont give a **** about what anyone thinks about what i'm going to say, but Hibs have had their last penny from me for the foreseeable future.

If that makes me a glory hunter then bring the glory on.

Aye and Petrie and STF, just go. Both of you have outstayed your welcome and are the problem not the solver of the problems.

STF Backed Petrie 100% at the AGM Remember " The eye of the tiger " they are not going anywhere we have to look at Terry he is not cutting the mustard is it to late too bring in McLeish again ?

[Jim44]

Despite all the dissatisfaction and whining about Butcher, we are nearly all (I think) still behind what he has to do, if not the man himself, if we are going to survive. More importantly, however, I think Butcher has to have a good hard look at himself and recognise that he is very much a part of our problems. He can't afford to hide behind the lobby who see him as the 'victim' of another man's team. I think he has contributed widely to the breakdown of morale through his 'media' meandering and lack of positive encouragement for the players ( yes, I know I've got a nerve to talk about positivity but I'm just an irrelevant Joe Bloggs giving his tuppence worth) ......... Butcher happens to be picking up a tidy salary for doing a job he's not doing very well. The next few weeks are crucial and are unlikely to produce any change in our fortunes unless Butcher takes the situation by the scruff of the neck and sorts out whatever malaise is dragging us down. An air-clearing and honest dialogue with the players might be a good place to start.

[Gerard]

I am fully behind TB being the head coach. I want a manager who tells players and the Hibs board the things that need to be said if Hibs are going to be respected in football again. There has been too many managers who have been at Hibs for less than 2 years and the result is an open door of players coming into the Hibs team and leaving when their contracts expire or are bought out. I want Hibs to be competitive again and win silverware. Other clubs outside the'OF' do it. We should also win more silverware and not every 20 years or so.
The next 6 games are vital for Hibs to make sure our place in the SPL and to allow TB to get the players that he wants for next season. It is clear that there are many players at ER who do not belong in our team and will be moved on ASAP. There is a lot of young players coming through the reserve league and some have made it into the first team. That is a bright light in a dull season.

[JimmyL]

No after that team selection, can go back to his beloved Inverness as far as im concerned, poor poor manager who we keep on hearing cannot do anything with the so called poor players he inherited, just go before the inevitable October sacking next season.

[The Voice Of Reason]

I'm still right behind butcher.

He's having to select Fenlon's duds - these are the duds who drove the fans to protest after the 1/4 final defeat to hearts - bunch of talentless losers.

The threat of a relegation playoff wasn't in the script though.......that's a big spanner in the works!

If we stay up I've got faith in butcher to turn this round.

[Alfred E Newman]

Put me down as a no. Wasn't my choice when he came given his managerial record. Other than Inverness and Motherwell, elsewhere he was a disaster. I hope he manages somehow to keep us out the play off but I have a feeling that even if we do survive the damage is done and he will walk away.

[silverhibee]

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God how I'm tired of hearing "until he brings in his own squad."

[3pm]

The only thing that should be behind Terry is a foot up his arse.

[Scouse Hibee]

[QUOTE=Eyrie;3949414]Still behind Butcher.

I want to see what he does with players that want to play well for us and be at Hibs.[/QUOTE]

These type of comments annoy me, as if masses of players suddenly don't want to play for a club that pays their wages and don't want to play well, total bollox in my opinion, of course they want to play well and be at Hibs.........................they're just not ****** good enough to do it.

[stevejordan]

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Put me down as a no. Wasn't my choice when he came given his managerial record. Other than Inverness and Motherwell, elsewhere he was a disaster. I hope he manages somehow to keep us out the play off but I have a feeling that even if we do survive the damage is done and he will walk away.

initially i was with him but now that he has the same record as Colin No he has not got a clue and will go down as another Petrie screw up we will scrape survival but we need someone else at the helm.

[Heedersnvolleys]

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God how I'm tired of hearing "until he brings in his own squad."

This. Heard it with Fenlon and now hearing for TB.

This is is what I can't understand these players just can't play his style of hoofball he wants. He knew he was not going to get enough players in the Jan window that was going to change that so why persist with that style, for me a decent manager would be able to adjust the style to suit the players at his disposal and gradually over several windows change personnel to suit his style/tactics.

But every time we seem to change manager and the whole squad?

[Wakeyhibee]

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I am.
He has made some strange team selections mind, but it must be difficult to pick exactly what is our best team is out of this bunch of misfits.
He and Petrie better get the finger out as soon as the season ends, if not sooner, to get rid of this lot and get some decent players in.

I will back TB even through all the changes he's made. He has only the squad he has, although I wonder what made him go for Haynes??? The problem I can see is Hibs don't have a budget to do a wholesale clearout, and the budget in summer will be considerably less at this rate.

That make's me wonder how many are made to look worse than they are given they are in a ***** team with maybe little options around them. I think this will take two or three seasons to sort out given the contract in place and Hibs budget, however I do expect to see a marked improvement next season with 3 or 4 new faces.

[Dashing Bob S]

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If he does not improve this shower of crap next season, then we all know what will happen. I am beginning to have my doubts he can, but he has done well with ICT so does need a lot more time than he's currently had.

The main reason i stopped watching Hibs was they bored me rigid with the style of play, after an initial upturn in form and creating more chances, this lot are as bad if not worse than Fenlons duds, and even worse to watch.

I dont give a **** about what anyone thinks about what i'm going to say, but Hibs have had their last penny from me for the foreseeable future.

If that makes me a glory hunter then bring the glory on.

Aye and Petrie and STF, just go. Both of you have outstayed your welcome and are the problem not the solver of the problems.

I'm in the exactly the same frame of mind. It's become too dull and tiresome a part of life to continually sign up for it voluntarily, and it's gone on in the same depressing loop for too long now. I really think the club needs an entire new direction. Realistically, it'll be hard to get rid of Farmer, but we need more dynamic boardroom leadership than the bean counter Petrie can provide, and he should do the honourable thing and stand aside.

I still very much self-identify as a Hibs supporter, but the sad reality is that I've derived far more satisfaction in enjoying Hearts implosion in the last couple of years, than anything Hibs have served up in this time.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

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God how I'm tired of hearing "until he brings in his own squad."

Me anaw

[erskine-hibby]

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Me anaw

I'm sure we all are, but the truth is he can't properly be judged with someone elses team

[SMAXXA]

He's a ****ing joke IMO, egotistical doesn't begin to describe him, there's a butcher love in on this site by people that are blind sighted about what he has done and give him more slack than he is due IMO. One win in 13.....he's in danger of setting us back then Years IMO, kick and rush, we were far better when we got the ball down and played football which is anti his methods.

****ed off doesn't even come close. We were best by the worst team in the top flight recent history. We are pish and no doubt we will see the same 3 or 4 changes again next week.

[TornadoHibby]

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I'm in the exactly the same frame of mind. It's become too dull and tiresome a part of life to continually sign up for it voluntarily, and it's gone on in the same depressing loop for too long now. I really think the club needs an entire new direction. Realistically, it'll be hard to get rid of Farmer, but we need more dynamic boardroom leadership than the bean counter Petrie can provide, and he should do the honourable thing and stand aside.

I still very much self-identify as a Hibs supporter, but the sad reality is that I've derived far more satisfaction in enjoying Hearts implosion in the last couple of years, than anything Hibs have served up in this time.

I think that a large number of long standing and loyal fans are now of the same mind and will walk if we get relegated, indeed they might even do so if we don't!

I personally don't care if those describing people with this view as "bed wetters" etc come on and spout that sort of sanctimonious claptrap - the short answer is that Hibs are in the entertainment business and if they don't entertain their viewing public then thos people will find something else to spend their money on with does entertain them IMO!