Willo Flood

[Ozyhibby]

Tom English said on Sportsound that we missed out on Flood by £500 a week. That's £26k over the season.
How many multiples of £26k has it cost us?

[Danderhall Hibs]

How much more did we need to offer to get Rooney?

[Pretty Boy]

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How much more did we need to offer to get Rooney?

English said on the radio it wasn't 'significant' amounts that cost us either player.

Not sure how much I believe though as Butcher has denied we were ever really in for Rooney. Unless he's been told to say that after we missed out of course.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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English said on the radio it wasn't 'significant' amounts that cost us either player.

Not sure how much I believe though as Butcher has denied we were ever really in for Rooney.

Is that not like asking a lassie out, getting a kb then saying I didn't fancy her anyway?

[Ozyhibby]

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English said on the radio it wasn't 'significant' amounts that cost us either player.

Not sure how much I believe though as Butcher has denied we were ever really in for Rooney.

Because he was so focussed on getting Haynes?

[Pretty Boy]

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Because he was so focussed on getting Haynes?

Wasn't meant as any kind of defence.

If we weren't in for Rooney then we should have been.

[truehibernian]

I've no doubt it is true - Petrie peed off Falkirk by trying to raise the Taylor fee by £25,000 at a time. Still, we got Barry Lavety instead

[SteveHFC]

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I've no doubt it is true - Petrie peed off Falkirk by trying to raise the Taylor fee by £25,000 at a time. Still, we got Barry Lavety instead

Plus we offered CSKA Sofia £20,000 for Sheridan

[Diclonius]

This can't be true - we always back our manager! It's an open secret, don't y'know?

[J-C]

I've said before do you want 10 decidedly average players at £2k a week or 5-6 pretty good ones at £4k, adds up to the same amount of money spent.

[lugz]

A lack of ambition cost us along with keeping a clueless manager at the start of the season. It annoys me so much that aberdeen flung a bit of money at it this season and they are 2 games away from completing the double while battling for 2nd.

Us on the other hand.....

[eggbamyasi]

He wanted rooney on loan not fully signed . He said that about four times . ?

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[Saturdays Hero]

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I've said before do you want 10 decidedly average players at £2k a week or 5-6 pretty good ones at £4k, adds up to the same amount of money spent.

We've no even got 10 average players,don't be surprised by 2days defeat it's not just 2day but the shipping of 3 goals to a Raith team that hadn't scored in five games sums up everything about our squad,list is endless gutless,clueless,spineless....Fenlon's got plenty to answer for signing Nelson,McGivern,Twaio on long term contracts !

[Fife-Hibee]

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He wanted rooney on loan not fully signed . He said that about four times . ?

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Why did he only want him on loan tho! Cant get my head round this.

[eggbamyasi]

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Why did he only want him on loan tho! Cant get my head round this.

Imo I think hes got such a big job rebuilding the team in summer he doesn't want to patch it up in january . Also money etc prob wants to keep as much as possible for summer . Rooney could have fitted in well in january but possibly not in the vision he has for next season .just guess work from me but I beleive thats why . He could have signed mabey three players in jan but they wouldnt necessarily fitted with whos avaliable in summer or how he wants to play team next season . For aberdeen he fitted in nicely to the squad mcInnes already had . Unlike our messed up squad it would have been a panic / quick fix buy who mabey wouldnt fit with what he wants and taken a big chunk of wages for summer .

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[Fife-Hibee]

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Imo I think hes got such a big job rebuilding the team in summer he doesn't want to patch it up in january . Also money etc prob wants to keep as much as possible for summer . Rooney could have fitted in well in january but possibly not in the vision he has for next season .just guess work from me but I beleive thats why . He could have signed mabey three players in jan but they wouldnt necessarily fitted with whos avaliable in summer or how he wants to play team next season . For aberdeen he fitted in nicely to the squad mcInnes already had . Unlike our messed up squad it would have been a panic / quick fix buy who mabey wouldnt fit with what he wants and taken a big chunk of wages for summer .

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Hope your right mate !

[rcarter1]

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I've said before do you want 10 decidedly average players at £2k a week or 5-6 pretty good ones at £4k, adds up to the same amount of money spent.

Agree with this. I don't know exactly how Hibs operate wages wise, but there have been lots of noise about wage caps etc.

For years there have been arguments about the sense or otherwise of having some bigger earners at the club. It is for me one of the reasons why Rod Petrie has failed the club badly. I don't think he has any understanding of how to build a football team - i.e. the blend of youth/stead eddies on the lower wages with a few leaders and stars on higher wages. It has been argued that this causes division within a squad. I don't think this would be the case if the 'stars' are clearly a cut above and lead by example. The young guys will be inspired to reach their level, and the steady eddies generally know where they fit into things. I can't think of any policy that RP has implemented (if this is indeed a RP policy) that is as detrimental to our functioning as a football club.

[Weststandwanab]

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Tom English said on Sportsound that we missed out on Flood by £500 a week. That's £26k over the season.
How many multiples of £26k has it cost us?

Lucky escape there.

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Is that not like asking a lassie out, getting a kb then saying I didn't fancy her anyway?

It is

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Plus we offered CSKA Sofia £20,000 for Sheridan

An even luckier escape

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I've said before do you want 10 decidedly average players at £2k a week or 5-6 pretty good ones at £4k, adds up to the same amount of money spent.

Yes but it is an eleven man team game.

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Imo I think hes got such a big job rebuilding the team in summer he doesn't want to patch it up in january . Also money etc prob wants to keep as much as possible for summer . Rooney could have fitted in well in january but possibly not in the vision he has for next season .just guess work from me but I beleive thats why . He could have signed mabey three players in jan but they wouldnt necessarily fitted with whos avaliable in summer or how he wants to play team next season . For aberdeen he fitted in nicely to the squad mcInnes already had . Unlike our messed up squad it would have been a panic / quick fix buy who mabey wouldnt fit with what he wants and taken a big chunk of wages for summer .

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I think you may be correct here

[J-C]

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Agree with this. I don't know exactly how Hibs operate wages wise, but there have been lots of noise about wage caps etc.

For years there have been arguments about the sense or otherwise of having some bigger earners at the club. It is for me one of the reasons why Rod Petrie has failed the club badly. I don't think he has any understanding of how to build a football team - i.e. the blend of youth/stead eddies on the lower wages with a few leaders and stars on higher wages. It has been argued that this causes division within a squad. I don't think this would be the case if the 'stars' are clearly a cut above and lead by example. The young guys will be inspired to reach their level, and the steady eddies generally know where they fit into things. I can't think of any policy that RP has implemented (if this is indeed a RP policy) that is as detrimental to our functioning as a football club.

Can you imagine the young lads at Liverpool, Man U etc moaning because Persie etc are all on big wages

[Kaff]

I think TB needs Richie Foran on board, a man in the changing room and on the pitch that knows exactly what he wants, maybe Lasley from Motherwell be similar? That sort of character would be worth paying that bit extra

[J-C]

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Lucky escape there.

It is

An even luckier escape

Yes but it is an eleven man team game.

I think you may be correct here

It's a squad game, or am I missing something. We've signed how many crap players on 1.5-2k a week and it's got us nowhere, lets get in better players for that money, 10 at 2k = 5 at 4k

[fife hfc]

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I've said before do you want 10 decidedly average players at £2k a week or 5-6 pretty good ones at £4k, adds up to the same amount of money spent.

Biggest problem we have. We have one of the biggest budgets wages wise in the league but one of the poorest squads why?

[ancient hibee]

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Agree with this. I don't know exactly how Hibs operate wages wise, but there have been lots of noise about wage caps etc.

For years there have been arguments about the sense or otherwise of having some bigger earners at the club. It is for me one of the reasons why Rod Petrie has failed the club badly. I don't think he has any understanding of how to build a football team - i.e. the blend of youth/stead eddies on the lower wages with a few leaders and stars on higher wages. It has been argued that this causes division within a squad. I don't think this would be the case if the 'stars' are clearly a cut above and lead by example. The young guys will be inspired to reach their level, and the steady eddies generally know where they fit into things. I can't think of any policy that RP has implemented (if this is indeed a RP policy) that is as detrimental to our functioning as a football club.

As you say-you don't know how we operate wage wise.In fact Petrie has said a number of times at AGMs and in the press and once to me that the player budget is for the manager to spend.It's his choice whether he spends low on individual players or more on fewer.Transfer fees are a different matter.Incidentally Tom English is jusxt another journalist and what he says is not always correct.

[The Sea-gull]

Long believed we have lost out on several players in the last few years by being unwilling to offer that extra few hundred per week. Something to ponder, for all Petrie gets credit for running a good financial ship, how much has he lost the club by failing to invest adequately in the team and this seeing more and more choosing not to turn up every week.

[lucky]

McPake and KT must be the big earners at ER and both will be away in the summer. Along with the others TB will have a decent budget to play with.

[Crazyhorse]

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As you say-you don't know how we operate wage wise.In fact Petrie has said a number of times at AGMs and in the press and once to me that the player budget is for the manager to spend.It's his choice whether he spends low on individual players or more on fewer.Transfer fees are a different matter.Incidentally Tom English is jusxt another journalist and what he says is not always correct.

Its true Petrie does say that and I have spoken to him too. The question is who is really doing the wage negotiations though? Perhaps Petrie 'interferes' a lot more than he lets on.

[Finbar]

Tom Farmer has always been about getting value for money from what I've heard about him. I think he sees footballers the same way he sees tyres, why pay more for a brand name, top of the range tyre when you can have a value tyre for half the price. Tyre's a tyre after all.

[Mr White]

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Tom Farmer has always been about getting value for money from what I've heard about him. I think he sees footballers the same way he sees tyres, why pay more for a brand name, top of the range tyre when you can have a value tyre for half the price. Tyre's a tyre after all.

I'll confidently say that tom farmer has no more say on hibs signing policies than you or I do.

[Brooster]

Petrie's contract negotiations are downright embarrassing. Weve lost out on dozens of players who have been blown away by our facilities but have laughed and walked away as soon as Petrie starts talking cash.

[Finbar]

I think that's the culture at hibs at the moment though. And the evidence of my own eyes tells me that we sign an awful lot of average players. And managers for that matter.