Just from the highlights looked like he had a very good game and cause us lots of problems
Could do a lot worse than him in our team.
Yes I remember how inconsistent and frustrating he was for us but, would still get a game imo
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23-03-2014 08:59 PM #1
Wotherspoon
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23-03-2014 09:07 PM #2
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People say he was inconsistent, but to me that's not a bad thing.
It's better to be good inconsistently than consistently *****.Last edited by Michael; 23-03-2014 at 09:10 PM.
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23-03-2014 09:09 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
'Water under the bridge', I'm afraid, but IMHO, not one of Hibby management's better decisions to punt him.
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23-03-2014 09:13 PM #4
It was the same when Sproule left us. He ran circles around us for Ross County and suddenly gained those extra 10 yards he had lost while he was here.
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23-03-2014 09:18 PM #5
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23-03-2014 09:18 PM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Well done to Spoony for moving. Probbaly the best thing for his career and now he's playing for a manager who sees his worth. He's played in Europe, albeit briefly, is playing in his preferred position, playing for a top six team and I'm sure wont be shunned by their manager if the Saints reach a major cup final.
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23-03-2014 09:20 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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He certainly had a purple patch for a spell at Ross County, but I was never of the opinion we shouldn't have let him go the second time around, he was pretty woeful mate.
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23-03-2014 09:45 PM #9
Wasn't at the game yesterday so not sure how Wotherspoon played. I'm still convinced that letting him go was the right decision though as he was brutal the last 2 seasons he was with us (being generous saying the last 2). He wasn't just inconsistent he was just crap IMO.
I've noticed a good few times that he's been on the bench for St Johnstone so he's obviously not been great for them either.
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23-03-2014 09:57 PM #10
He wasnt performing well for us for a period of time before we let him go and still I think it was the right decision to let him leave. He simply wasn't good enough, no offense to him.
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23-03-2014 10:09 PM #11
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Played well yesterday but he didn't do anything the previous two times we played them. And he was only playing against McGivern!
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24-03-2014 05:53 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-03-2014 07:45 AM #13
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24-03-2014 07:58 AM #14
Players perform better in the same position, in a settled line up, with a supportive, motivating manager, good team spirit in a well run club
We don't have bad players - we just don't tick enough of the boxes needed for winning games
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24-03-2014 09:16 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-03-2014 09:57 AM #17
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Would I have Wotherspoon ahead of any of the players we have right now? Yes.
Would things have been different this season had we kept him?No, not a chance. DW alone would not have changed the way this season has gone. Not one bit.
Would I want Wotherspoon back at Easter road in the summer? No, we need to aim for better than that otherwise we'll not progress.
Was it a mistake to let Wotherspoon go? Sort of. Short term I now think it was actually as we have lacked a proper wide midfielder and an inconsistent DW would be better than nobody or Zoubir. Though the decision in letting DW go was not wrong really it was more the decisions made in signing replacements that were flawed. Suspect Pat had thrown all his eggs in Harris's basket hence getting rid of DW and then he paniced when AH got injured, laboured over making a signing and Zoubir was the ultimate panic signing. Longer term the decision to move DW on was right. It was not happening for him at Hibs so it was time for him to go. As I said at the time he may go on and have a good career but it was over for him at Hibs. We had given him enough chances and he had given us enough time too.
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24-03-2014 10:23 AM #18
Huge mistake letting the lad go. He was to forward thinking to get anywhere near fenlon's 4 defensive mids. Spoony or Taiwo?? Spoony every single time for me. But he wasn't a fenlon signing and Taiwo was. If yer face fits eh......
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24-03-2014 10:37 AM #19
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24-03-2014 10:38 AM #21
This happens all the time when folk start getting hysterical about our form. Folk either begin calling for the return of some player out of the team (it's been Heffernan and Thomson recently) or bang on about how we shouldn't have let X, Y or Z leave.
Wotherspoon was ineffectual in over half of the games he played for Hibs (and that's me being kind). He consistently failed to stand out in Hibs teams just as bad as the current one and couldn't even get into two cup final squads. It was right then that he was leaving and its still right now that he left.
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24-03-2014 10:41 AM #22
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Yip, the strive for mediocrity astounds me.
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24-03-2014 10:47 AM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Wotherspoon was one of those players who you always felt he just didn't have that little something to make him a "really good" player .
Will always make a living BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!
Never have been a " fan" of players coming back to a club for a second spell and certainly feel we could do an awful lot better than him
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24-03-2014 12:40 PM #25
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Also, to follow up your point about Thomson and Heffernan, we don't have any players in the current squad who are not getting a game whose inclusion will go anywhere near solving our issues. We have a poor squad of players and when I try to think of anyone who I regard as decent those that spring to mind don't really convince me and labelling them decent is charitable.
If I could I would let near enough the whole lot go aside from Harris, Stanton, Forster, Cummings, Handling and perhaps a couple of other youngsters who have either shown promise or have yet to get an opportunity. Even then, I would not put my house on any of them being the standard we are looking for but we have to give them at least the opportnity to make it. Part of that opportnuity and duty we have to them as a club is signing quality experienced players with good character so they can learn from them and get a little bit of help.
We can't unfortunately get rid of the lot in the summer and start again due to contracts but as I have said before, I would genuinely only keep the aforementioned youngsters, the sub goalies and then maybe the likes of Robertson, Craig and Stevenson who I think could all be useful with better players around them as they are all proven players. I may include Paul Hanlon in that group but I am starting to wonder if he has just been around too long now and whether a change would benefit him and us. I know Setvenson has been around even longer but he hasn't been the regular that Hanlon has been.
this means we have to try and get rid of a lot of players and a lot in but I really think it is what the club needs. We have a new look management team, give them the chance to mould their own squad almost from scratch or as close to scratch as possible and see where this takes us.
It needs to be a very different Hibernian next season in terms of personnel otherwise (if we manage to avoid relegation this season which, on balance I think we will) then it is very, very possible that one way or another, we'll go down next season.Last edited by The Sea-gull; 24-03-2014 at 12:42 PM.
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24-03-2014 04:10 PM #26
The fact remains, the guy looked full of confidence on Sat. Composed when he had the ball, his crosses were consistently excellent and only a brilliant point-blank save stopped him from scoring.
A totally different Wotherspoon played away to Kilmarnock in the replayed match at the end of last season.
Won't argue that we were wrong to let him go, but he had a great game on Sat.
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25-03-2014 07:51 AM #27
Worth remembering he's a St Johnstone fan, you'd expect him to be more up for it.
For whatever reason it wasn't working out for him at hibs.
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25-03-2014 08:26 AM #28
He was pish for us a lot of the time. If he has moved away and found a new lease of life then good luck to him. Hibs.net in ex player thread shocker
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25-03-2014 09:19 AM #29
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Technically, we didn't let him go. He was offered a contract on reduced terms, but preferred the alternative offer from St Johnstone. I'd have liked him to stay.
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25-03-2014 09:27 AM #30
Very talented boy. He was probably hindered by the quality and number of managers we had as well as the number of donkeys that lined up beside him. Pissing about with his position never helped either. He was a CM. Can't ever remember him playing there for us
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