Pat Fenlon squad v Hearts Squad this season

[SouthamptonHibs]

With just over 1 day to go in the transfer window i hope that Petrie is working hard to bring in 3 quality players to our squad.

Pat Fenlon's squad has amased a whopping 28 points this season. (Until Terry brings in players this is Pat's squad IMO)

Pat must go down as one of our worst managers ever joint with Duffy and Calderwood.

Compare how Pat's squad have performed v how Admin FC (aka Hearts) squad of kids and has performed over similar amount of games.

hibs have 8 more points than them = shocking!

The league table doesn't lie. Apart from a brief spell over Xmas we have been shocking this season.

There's nothing i've seen in the past weeks to think that the current squad will suddenly achieve anything amazing this season.
With that in mind i can't understand why we have not brought in some players.

Money maybe an issue but money will become an issue if Hibs fail to reach top 6 and the SC cup final as Season ticket sales are likely to fall for next year after another poor league season.

It's time Hibs got a loan out to buy some decent players. There still is hope for a decent end to the season but not with the current squad we have.

thoughts?

[MWHIBBIES]

Pathetic thread bashing a guy who done his best for the club after taking over in an awful position.

[The_Exile]

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It's time Hibs got a loan out to buy some decent players.

Easy as that eh? You're a genius! Get Rod telt!!

Edit: although Pat didn't have anywhere near an acceptable end to his tenure, if you take the state of the club when he took over and the squad of players he left, wouldnae have him anywhere near a "worst manager" list.

[SouthamptonHibs]

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Pathetic thread bashing a guy who done his best for the club after taking over in an awful position.

Absolute nonsence mate! you must be a Pat Fenlon lover.

The man has left us in a terrible position. Open yer eyes!

Nothing Pathetic about the thread. These are the FACTS

[EskbankHibee]

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With just over 1 day to go in the transfer window i hope that Petrie is working hard to bring in 3 quality players to our squad.

Pat Fenlon's squad has amased a whopping 28 points this season. (Until Terry brings in players this is Pat's squad IMO)

Pat must go down as one of our worst managers ever joint with Duffy and Calderwood.

Compare how Pat's squad have performed v how Admin FC (aka Hearts) squad of kids and has performed over similar amount of games.

hibs have 8 more points than them = shocking!

The league table doesn't lie. Apart from a brief spell over Xmas we have been shocking this season.

There's nothing i've seen in the past weeks to think that the current squad will suddenly achieve anything amazing this season.
With that in mind i can't understand why we have not brought in some players.

Money maybe an issue but money will become an issue if Hibs fail to reach top 6 and the SC cup final as Season ticket sales are likely to fall for next year after another poor league season.

It's time Hibs got a loan out to buy some decent players. There still is hope for a decent end to the season but not with the current squad we have.

thoughts?

Now I'm no fan of PF but I think this is ridiculously harsh. Calderwood is the worst manager at Hibs in my lifetime, worse than Duffy IMO. And PF had to rebuild from him. He also led us to two consecutive Scottish Cup finals. Hadn't been done since the 1920s. Fenlon was a poor appointment but not the worst ever.

[SouthamptonHibs]

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Easy as that eh? You're a genius! Get Rod telt!!

30days onto a 31 day window = No signings!

Rod please read this post - time is running out!

You are right i am a genius.

Positive comments only no trolls

[MWHIBBIES]

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Absolute nonsence mate! you must be a Pat Fenlon lover.

The man has left us in a terrible position. Open yer eyes!

Nothing Pathetic about the thread. These are the FACTS

Well if you capitalized facts you must be right.

Pat Fenlon left us in a much better position with a much better squad than when he took over.

As I said, pathetic thread.

[SouthamptonHibs]

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Now I'm no fan of PF but I think this is ridiculously harsh. Calderwood is the worst manager at Hibs in my lifetime, worse than Duffy IMO. And PF had to rebuild from him. He also led us to two consecutive Scottish Cup finals. Hadn't been done since the 1920s. Fenlon was a poor appointment but not the worst ever.

He's up there for me.

Three season's at Hibs and he has left us in the same place as he found us. He also added to of our worst results in our History. These are the reasons why i have him up there with CC and Duffy.
Positive for Pat is he never got us relegated

[Frazerbob]

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30days onto a 31 day window = No signings!

Rod please read this post - time is running out!

You are right i am a genius.

Positive comments only no trolls

I take it you're not a Private Member. News of three signings on the PM board with another looking very likely.

[EskbankHibee]

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30days onto a 31 day window = No signings!

Rod please read this post - time is running out!

You are right i am a genius.

Positive comments only no trolls

Haha! You don't say one positive comment in your thread apart from lets get a big loan out and buy good players. How is that a good plan? Can you not see whats happening at Hearts?!

[The_Exile]

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30days onto a 31 day window = No signings!

Rod please read this post - time is running out!

You are right i am a genius.

Positive comments only no trolls

Tell you what:

1 You take out a loan for 250k at a low 4.5% interest rate
2. Give it to Rod
3. Hibs buy a player or 2
4. ????
5. Profit

I think I'm getting the hang of this

[SouthamptonHibs]

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Well if you capitalized facts you must be right.

Pat Fenlon left us in a much better position with a much better squad than when he took over.

As I said, pathetic thread.

A better squad We've picked up 28 points this year! 8 points more than Hearts.
When Pat took over us we least played Rangers but they've been out the scene the past two seasons.

Have to disagree.

The team on paper looks better - the team on the pitch is not producing the points

[Elephant Stone]

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Absolute nonsence mate! you must be a Pat Fenlon lover.

The man has left us in a terrible position. Open yer eyes!

Nothing Pathetic about the thread. These are the FACTS

No, these are facts:

Jim Duffy win percentage: 17%
Colin Calderwood: 24%
Pat Fenlon 35%

Maybe stick a few more words in capitals though and you'll be RIGHT.

[SouthamptonHibs]

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No, these are facts:

Jim Duffy win percentage: 17%
Colin Calderwood: 24%
Pat Fenlon 35%

Maybe stick a few more words in capitals though and you'll be RIGHT.

Win % is terrible.

Look at what i said! Pat Fenlon is ONE of the worst managers he is up there with Duffy and CC. Your missing the point. A win % of 35 is poor. Remeber he spent all his time in the bottom 6.

[Elephant Stone]

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Win % is terrible.

Look at what i said! Pat Fenlon is ONE of the worst managers he is up there with Duffy and CC. Your missing the point. A win % of 35 is poor. Remeber he spent all his time in the bottom 6.

You said he's joint with Duffy and Calderwood then went on to say that it's all FACTS..

[CropleyWasGod]

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30days onto a 31 day window = No signings!

Rod please read this post - time is running out!

You are right i am a genius.

Positive comments only no trolls

He hasn't got time to read your post. He's too busy tying up the details of the 3 signings that we're apparently making.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Pat must go down as one of our worst managers ever joint with Duffy and Calderwood.

thoughts?

they two didn't get us to two cup finals(lets not talk about the results though)

[SouthamptonHibs]

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Haha! You don't say one positive comment in your thread apart from lets get a big loan out and buy good players. How is that a good plan? Can you not see whats happening at Hearts?!

Hearts over spent big time.

This is about protecting the income we have.

We need to spend some money to get decent players in. Win miore games brings more fans in = Simples.

keep loosing games and crowds will be under 10,000 for rest of season.

to grow a business you need to spend money.

Note: this is about as positive as i can be about Hibs after seasom number 4 in a row of being poor.

The positive not is we can still change this season - IMO if we sign some new players in this window

[EskbankHibee]

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Win % is terrible.

Look at what i said! Pat Fenlon is ONE of the worst managers he is up there with Duffy and CC. Your missing the point. A win % of 35 is poor. Remeber he spent all his time in the bottom 6.

How could he possibly have spent time in the top 6 when he took over from us in a relegation battle?

He also had us top of the league at one point last season.

He took us to two cup finals

I don't think he was a good maager either but you are talking absoulte horse****

[The Sea-gull]

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With just over 1 day to go in the transfer window i hope that Petrie is working hard to bring in 3 quality players to our squad.

Pat Fenlon's squad has amased a whopping 28 points this season. (Until Terry brings in players this is Pat's squad IMO)

Pat must go down as one of our worst managers ever joint with Duffy and Calderwood.

Compare how Pat's squad have performed v how Admin FC (aka Hearts) squad of kids and has performed over similar amount of games.

hibs have 8 more points than them = shocking!

The league table doesn't lie. Apart from a brief spell over Xmas we have been shocking this season.

There's nothing i've seen in the past weeks to think that the current squad will suddenly achieve anything amazing this season.
With that in mind i can't understand why we have not brought in some players.

Money maybe an issue but money will become an issue if Hibs fail to reach top 6 and the SC cup final as Season ticket sales are likely to fall for next year after another poor league season.

It's time Hibs got a loan out to buy some decent players. There still is hope for a decent end to the season but not with the current squad we have.

thoughts?

It is pretty shocking that we only have 8 points more than Hearts (albeit they have played one more game now) but is it not pretty shocking that Partick and Ross Co only have 1 more than them, St Mirren 3 more and Killie 5 more?

Or maybe, just maybe, Hearts are not quite as bad as some people on here, in the media and even Hearts themselves (when it suits them) would have us believe.

Personally I find it shocking that we are potentially staring our 4th season in a row in the bottom 6 but that is down to how our club has been run during this period and we've all debated that a ton of times.

I'm no fan of Pat Fenlon - was against his appointment (nothing personal just based it on his credentials) from the start but gave him a chance to prove himself and he never did anything to make me change my mind. I can't agree that he was anywhere near as bad as Duffy and CC though. One thing I'll say of him, he left us in a far better state than we were in when he took over. Can the same be said of Duffy and CC? And a couple of others too.

He didn't look like he could take us any further, had many flaws and made many mistakes but worst manager ever - not for me.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Psst, OP, I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Pat Fenlon's not Hibs' manager any more.

[SouthamptonHibs]

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How could he possibly have spent time in the top 6 when he took over from us in a relegation battle?

He also had us top of the league at one point last season.

He took us to two cup finals

I don't think he was a good maager either but you are talking absoulte horse****

5-1, 7-0 i'm not talking nonsence mate.

Didnt make top 6 with no Rangers and poor Hearts last year, signed his own players, backed by the board, terrible derby record.

Pat was a terrible manager.

[superfurryhibby]

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I take it you're not a Private Member. News of three signings on the PM board with another looking very likely.

Any chance of telling the wider public who these signings are, please?

[SouthamptonHibs]

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Psst, OP, I'm going to let you in on a little secret.

Pat Fenlon's not Hibs' manager any more.

of course i know this, for some reason the Hibs netters have a Pat Fenlon love in and have missed the point.

i'm compairing the squad he left us with Hearts and asking when are we going to sign some players to improve the squad. IF we do we have a chance of saving the season.

Folk are arguing if PF was a good, bad or worse than Duffy and CC.

Strange

hail Hail

[EskbankHibee]

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5-1, 7-0 i'm not talking nonsence mate.

Didnt make top 6 with no Rangers and poor Hearts last year, signed his own players, backed by the board, terrible derby record.

Pat was a terrible manager.

He had one full season at Hibs. He just missed out on a top 6 finish. And he would've made the top 6 had Griffiths goal v them been awarded and Dundee Utd not been given a penalty in the last minute.

The 5-1 and 7-0 do not make him the worst Hibs manager ever.

[Mikeystewart]

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He's up there for me.

Three season's at Hibs and he has left us in the same place as he found us. He also added to of our worst results in our History. These are the reasons why i have him up there with CC and Duffy.
Positive for Pat is he never got us relegated

I'm not a fan of PF he was shocking, but this is nonsense, Fenlons hibs would have finished in the top end of the bottom 6. If CC was in charge it would have been a completely different story we'd be competing with hearts at the foot of the table, obviously has no recollection of nearly getting relegated.

Doherty, Osbourne, Agogo, Sodje, Thornhill, Polson. End of Debate.. oh and O'Hanlon

[SouthamptonHibs]

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You said he's joint with Duffy and Calderwood then went on to say that it's all FACTS..

I'm sure i said one of...

[EskbankHibee]

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Folk are arguing if PF was a good, bad or worse than Duffy and CC. Strange

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Pat must go down as one of our worst managers ever joint with Duffy and Calderwood.

Every point you have made you have gone on to contradict yourself. This whole thread is an attack on PF

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I'm sure i said one of...

You've not done yourself any favours by making an utterly ridiculous comparison to Jim Duffy!

[DarlingtonHibee]

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With just over 1 day to go in the transfer window i hope that Petrie is working hard to bring in 3 quality players to our squad.

Pat Fenlon's squad has amased a whopping 28 points this season. (Until Terry brings in players this is Pat's squad IMO)

Pat must go down as one of our worst managers ever joint with Duffy and Calderwood.

Compare how Pat's squad have performed v how Admin FC (aka Hearts) squad of kids and has performed over similar amount of games.

hibs have 8 more points than them = shocking!

The league table doesn't lie. Apart from a brief spell over Xmas we have been shocking this season.

There's nothing i've seen in the past weeks to think that the current squad will suddenly achieve anything amazing this season.
With that in mind i can't understand why we have not brought in some players.

Money maybe an issue but money will become an issue if Hibs fail to reach top 6 and the SC cup final as Season ticket sales are likely to fall for next year after another poor league season.

It's time Hibs got a loan out to buy some decent players. There still is hope for a decent end to the season but not with the current squad we have.

thoughts?

Didn't quite understand your last sentence, did you mean Hibs should borrow money we haven't got ?