Mixu Paatelainen

[EskbankHibee]

Was told by a mate he's doing well at Finland, and when I looked him up he has raised them 23 places in the FIFA Rankings.

Mixu was a strange one in that he came in at a time where hibs fans demanded passing, attractive football. Although the football wasn't as good as his predecessors, he didn't have the same calibre of player at his disposal. He also got us into the top 6 in two seasons.

Given his success elsewhere and the demise of our football team since then, do Hibs fans now feel we should have kept him on? Did Petrie actually get that appointment right?

[Cabbage East]

In hindsight, Mixu got a rough deal from the club as a manager really.

[Ronniekirk]

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Was told by a mate he's doing well at Finland, and when I looked him up he has raised them 23 places in the FIFA Rankings.

Mixu was a strange one in that he came in at a time where hibs fans demanded passing, attractive football. Although the football wasn't as good as his predecessors, he didn't have the same calibre of player at his disposal. He also got us into the top 6 in two seasons.

Given his success elsewhere and the demise of our football team since then, do Hibs fans now feel we should have kept him on? Did Petrie actually get that appointment right?

Based on what he has gone on to do since he left us, there has to be a question about why he didn't bring that to us but he was still a bit inexperienced when we took him .Was it a step up too quickly or what is it about the working environment that makes Easter road a difficult place to come .Jim Gannon apart Motherwell have managed to bring in managers that have kept them on the course we aspire to so someone there is getting it right . However we seem to agree we now have right team in place,so we really need to back them when we can and see where that takes us.Which has to be a lot better than where we have been over past four years .

[Billy Whizz]

Hopefully be back one day

[EskbankHibee]

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Based on what he has gone on to do since he left us there has to be a question about why he didn't bring that to us but he was still a bit inexperienced when we took him .was it a step up too quickly or what is it about the working environment that makes Easter road a difficult place to come .Jim Gannon apart Motherwell have managed to bring in managers that have kept them on the course we aspire to so someone there is getting it right . however we seem to agree we now have right team in place so we really need to back them when we can and see where that takes us which has to be a lot better than where we have been over past four years .

I think timing is also key here. Although we remain optimistic about TB this is the only time we would have been happy with his appointment given his track record. In hindsight, it looks as though Mixu was the one we should have stuck with

[GloryGlory]

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Was told by a mate he's doing well at Finland, and when I looked him up he has raised them 23 places in the FIFA Rankings.

Mixu was a strange one in that he came in at a time where hibs fans demanded passing, attractive football. Although the football wasn't as good as his predecessors, he didn't have the same calibre of player at his disposal. He also got us into the top 6 in two seasons.

Given his success elsewhere and the demise of our football team since then, do Hibs fans now feel we should have kept him on? Did Petrie actually get that appointment right?

ISTR he went away after leaving Hibs and studied training methods and tactics at various clubs around Europe. So maybe the Hibs job just came too early for him in his career.

In fact, I recall Petrie saying at the time of Mixu's appointment that he thought that Mixu would be the next Hibs manager but one, but that he had really impressed the appointment panel with his vision and ideas.

[Peevemor]

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In hindsight, Mixu got a rough deal from the club as a manager really.

It was the fans, not the club that gave Mixu a rough deal.

[Baader]

The gig just came around too early for Mixu. A real shame as everyone wanted him to succeed. If he got it now it'd be a different outcome but just came too soon in his managerial career. You can see how much he has learned since leaving.

[Speedway]

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It was the fans, not the club that gave Mixu a rough deal.

This.

'Get that ****ing fat Finn clown tae ****, useless panty liner *******' x 1000 after every adverse reserve league result.

[The Sea-gull]

I don't know but in the last 10 years, Mixu was probably the first "sacking" by Hibs. I mean this in that it was officially a mutual consent number but you get the feeling it was driven more by Hibs. Mowbray obviously left for another job and it seems Colins resigned.

I think again with Yogi, CC and possibly Fenlon they were essentially sackings and if you compare Mixu's departure to these three, it does seem fair to say that he was harshly treated.

That said, at the time not many seemed to shed a tear when it was announced that Mixu had gone. I include myself in that. We must remember that at times things were pretty bad under Mixu in terms of results and the quality of the product. Nowhere near the depths reached by Yogi, CC and Fenlon though. Maybe the job came too soon for Mixu and we were a club on the slide. Not all the fault of the managers we had but ultimately at sliding football clubs the manager is highest profile casualty.

If Mixu had come after Yogi, CC or PF would he have been sacked for a bottom of the top 6 finish with some poor results and displays? No - it would have been seen as progress. The trouble is, at the time it was regress as we had been in a better place before then, playing better football so expectation levels were different to what they have become. His departure, along with Collins's maybe, was the least expected of our managerial losses in the last decade. In hindsight maybe we should have kept him though at the time while not a universally praised decision there was not mass out cry at his departure either.

What has gone on since then though means I think most would be reasonably happy if Butcher delivers a 6th place finish this season. If he delivered it again next season then not quite so happy.

[Nailrod]

Mixu's tenure as manager coincided with the tenure as first choice keeper of 'Maka' - the worst goalkeeper in the history of the planet to have the best goalkeeping stats of any keeper this century.

Effectively, Hibs defensive record during Mixu's tenure was the best it has been this century in terms of goals conceded and shutouts recorded. Since it has been pointed out to me endlessly that none of this had anything to do with the keeper, who was completely rubbish, then I guess it must have been all down to the defense. As it happens, the core of our central defense all through this period was two chaps called Chris Hogg and Rob Jones.

While Maka was unequivocally hounded out of ER by the boo-boys, it might be a bit of an exaggeration to claim that Hogg and Jones were 'hounded out'. But it can hardly be disputed that by the end of their respective Hibs careers, both of these guys were being given dog's abuse both by the fans at the ground and on these boards.

All of the managers who have followed Mixu have inferior records, and all of the teams likewise. And the parade of anonymous journeymen we've seen traipsing through ER in the interim would match the queue at the Pearly Gates on Judgment Day.

[Inch Hibs]

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In hindsight, Mixu got a rough deal from the club as a manager really.

I don't think so. He was backed the job came to soon though and we struggled.

He went away and learned different ways of coaching which he's also stated in the past.

Love the big guy though. Delighted he's doing well.

[EskbankHibee]

The strange thing is that Mixu had a good record with two clubs before he came to Hibs. And the reason the fans didn't take to him was because of his style of play. However, after three managers who couldn't produce any kind of style we are delighted TB now has us playing more direct. The very reason Mixu was ousted.

[Inch Hibs]

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Mixu's tenure as manager coincided with the tenure as first choice keeper of 'Maka' - the worst goalkeeper in the history of the planet to have the best goalkeeping stats of any keeper this century.

Effectively, Hibs defensive record during Mixu's tenure was the best it has been this century in terms of goals conceded and shutouts recorded. Since it has been pointed out to me endlessly that none of this had anything to do with the keeper, who was completely rubbish, then I guess it must have been all down to the defense. As it happens, the core of our central defense all through this period was two chaps called Chris Hogg and Rob Jones.

While Maka was unequivocally hounded out of ER by the boo-boys, it might be a bit of an exaggeration to claim that Hogg and Jones were 'hounded out'. But it can hardly be disputed that by the end of their respective Hibs careers, both of these guys were being given dog's abuse both by the fans at the ground and on these boards.

All of the managers who have followed Mixu have inferior records, and all of the teams likewise. And the parade of anonymous journeymen we've seen traipsing through ER in the interim would match the queue at the Pearly Gates on Judgment Day.

I think it was more to do with the way we where previously spoiled with good footballing sides. Watching Van Zanten and Hong Kong Thierry smash the ball up front to Nish wasn't cutting it as he was falling on his arse all the time when Fletch left in that summer.

He was basically a casualty of being manager when we had sold all the players we did!

[.Sean.]

It was absolutely disgusting the way Mixu was treated by many at Easter Road and by numerous posters on here and those should be downright ashamed with their behaviour towards him.

[Peevemor]

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I don't know but in the last 10 years, Mixu was probably the first "sacking" by Hibs. I mean this in that it was officially a mutual consent number but you get the feeling it was driven more by Hibs. Mowbray obviously left for another job and it seems Colins resigned.

I think again with Yogi, CC and possibly Fenlon they were essentially sackings and if you compare Mixu's departure to these three, it does seem fair to say that he was harshly treated....

I'm pretty sure that he said in an interview last year that it was his decision alone to leave Hibs.

[jacomo]

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The strange thing is that Mixu had a good record with two clubs before he came to Hibs. And the reason the fans didn't take to him was because of his style of play. However, after three managers who couldn't produce any kind of style we are delighted TB now has us playing more direct. The very reason Mixu was ousted.

There were brief passages of play under Mixu that were very good indeed. But he was trying to change our style after the very patient, possession-based mantra from JC and didn't always get personnel and the shape right... we had a lot of (very average) left footers in the squad and often little presence at all on the right of the pitch.

Mixu also looked like he was going to burst a blood vessel every match - he got so furious in the technical area I actually worried for his health. In the end a mix of poor signings (not by any means all his fault) and poor tactics did for him. But overall his sacking was harsh and he should have had more time.

Could have all been different if JJ had delivered - who knew he'd be such a dud?

[Hank Schrader]

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It was absolutely disgusting the way Mixu was treated by many at Easter Road and by numerous posters on here and those should be downright ashamed with their behaviour towards him.

I recall some posters on here referring to him as "Mixup". Shameful.

[MrSmith]

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Hopefully be back one day

Hope so too! I was one of those who were disappointed when he got edged out!

[jacomo]

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I recall some posters on here referring to him as "Mixup". Shameful.

Worse - Yammish.

[Dinkydoo]

Undoubtedly, the abuse dished out on here and at ER by some fans towards Mixu was unacceptable however, we mustn't forget that there was valid reason for criticism prior to Mixu being shown the door. He was inexperienced at the time, didn't seem to learn from his mistakes, played a 433 formation without the quality of midfielders to do so for months, persevered with Colin Nish, hoofball, blowing up at referees /other managers/...etc and being sent to the stands on several occasions.

I don't think that (at the time) Mixu was going to take us anywhere other than mediocrity; just because the managers superseding him were 'more of the same' or worse doesn't mean that we should forget that.

[cleanyman]

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I recall some posters on here referring to him as "Mixup". Shameful.

blackpool springs to mind.

Minter

[Inch Hibs]

Oh goody, another thread that's turned into ripping other posters and arguements within the support.

[The Sea-gull]

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Could have all been different if JJ had delivered - who knew he'd be such a dud?

I know! He could be my biggest ever dissappointment as a signing in terms of what I thought he'd be like and what he actually turned out to be like. I thought we had potentially made a real coup of a signing and he would do really well for us. Potentially we had but in reality we hadn't.

[LaMotta]

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I recall some posters on here referring to him as "Mixup". Shameful.

Fans moaning after holding both the old firm to draws in the space of a week because we sat in and were "negative". Or maybe just maybe "Mixup" got his tactics right.

Fans also moaning after a two nil home win against Inverness ( 2 goals in first four minutes) - because it was a bit boring after that...

Mixu was a victim of our previous success...if he'd had more time he would have done well. He may have decided to leave of his own accord but there was grumbling from sections of the crowd which no doubt played a part in that.

Had managed to get us up for Derbies as well, winning his last two.

[Paperboy]

I thought he was badly treated by the club and the fans. But I also feel he was inexpereinced at the time too.

I'm sure we played Dundee United. With the game a draw, we gave away a free kick and in the process a player went off injured. For some reason it may have been Ian Murray although I could be having a senior moment.

Mixu didn't put on a sub and as a result there was no guidence during the free kick - players didn't have a clue who to mark and United scored from it to win the game. If we'd made a sub it might have made the differnce.


then againI could be having a senior moment!

[J-C]

Basically right man at the wrong time.

[Hank Schrader]

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Oh goody, another thread that's turned into ripping other posters and arguements within the support.

Goodness me you are irritating...

[MrRobot]

At the end of the day, we weren't wrong and it wasn't working with him. Massive credit to him though as he went away, worked on what his failings were and ultimately has become a much better manager as a result. Would love to see him back one day.

[frazeHFC]

It's easy to say this now, it wasn't quite working at the time. I wanted him gone, and don't think he should of stayed. Glad he is doing well though, wonder where he'll end up next.