Suarez

[lapsedhibee]

Diving barsteward. Do refs not watch MOTD?

[lEXO]

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Diving barsteward. Do refs not watch MOTD?

I thought it was a penalty like.

[lapsedhibee]

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I thought it was a penalty like.

These tossers on MOTD are at it again with "there was contact" THEREFORE it was a penalty. If there was contact it was purely because the aforementioned diving barsteward ensured that there was on his way down. Or rather, on his way up then down. Sickening nonsense.

[dmc1875]

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Diving barsteward. Do refs not watch MOTD?

Dive? No

Did he go down easily? Yes

Did Guzan touch the ball? No

Did he impede a goalscoring opportunity? Yes

Was it a penalty? 100%

[Pretty Boy]

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Dive? No

Did he go down easily? Yes

Did Guzan touch the ball? No

Did he impede a goalscoring opportunity? Yes

Was it a penalty? 100%

Pretty much what I saw.

Not a fan of Suarez but he didn't do much wrong tonight imo.

[easty]

the ref got it right.

[lapsedhibee]

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Dive? No
Yes.

Did he go down easily? Yes
Up first, as he always does.

Did Guzan touch the ball? No
So?

Did he impede a goalscoring opportunity? Yes
No.

Was it a penalty? 100%
No.

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[Hibs Class]

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Dive? No

Did he go down easily? Yes

Did Guzan touch the ball? No

Did he impede a goalscoring opportunity? Yes

Was it a penalty? 100%

Agree with all these except the fourth one, don't think there was a goalscoring opportunity, and guess that's why it was a pen but no red card for the keeper.

[dmc1875]

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Agree with all these except the fourth one, don't think there was a goalscoring opportunity, and guess that's why it was a pen but no red card for the keeper.

Maybe not for Suarez but the cut back was on for Sturridge I believe and thats why it wasn't a red card.

[Leighonel]

Don't really like Suarez or Liverpool but that looked a penalty to me.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

No contact but a ridiculous decision from Guzan. There was no need to go to ground

[McKenzie]

Bugs me when keepers go in for that type of challenge. Nine times out of ten it's a pen, just let the defenders do their job and you stick to stopping shots.

[SmashinGlass]

It was Guzan's failure to pull out of the challenge that made the ref's mind up for me. He had more than ample opportunity to pull his arms away, but kept them extended. It was definitely a pen for me.

[wookie70]

Stonewaller for me. He may have gone down easily but it was a foul in the box

[Tricla]

Pen. End of.

FWIW I love Suarez.

Munching apart, he's the best player on the planet.

[Judas Iscariot]

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Pen. End of.

FWIW I love Suarez.

Munching apart, he's the best player on the planet.

He's not even the best player in the BPL

[SeanWilson]

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Diving barsteward. Do refs not watch MOTD?

Ref had no choice from where he watched. They showed you the camera from what he was looking at and it was a stonewaller.

having looked at it from 57 different angles... its probably soft.

[lapsedhibee]

Pat Nevin providing a lone sane voice in amongst MOTD tossers arguing the modern mantra that 'There was contact therefore he was entitled to go down':

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25802012

[allezsauzee]

I think it was a penalty. Stupidity from Guzan...especially as I had a bet on Villa

[lord bunberry]

The problem with the "there was contact so it's a penalty" argument is that the players are instigating the contact by hanging their leg out when going past the defender. Surely that's a form of simulation? If a forward goes past the player and there's contact fair enough, but that's not the way it's happening, the worrying thing is that it's seems to be accepted as ok by the pundits and the governing bodies.

[allezsauzee]

I think if the football authorities starting hitting players and/or clubs in their pockets for diving it would soon stop.

[Scònaldò]

Guzan didn't touch him, but it's a stonewaller?

'twas a dive.

Cheating wee turd.

[jdships]

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Dive? No

Did he go down easily? Yes

Did Guzan touch the ball? No

Did he impede a goalscoring opportunity? Yes

Was it a penalty? 100%

agree totally !!

[jdships]

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Guzan didn't touch him, but it's a stonewaller?

'twas a dive.

Cheating wee turd.

Have another look ( or two ) THERE WAS A TOUCH

[Scònaldò]

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Have another look ( or two ) THERE WAS A TOUCH

But not enough for him to fall down.

If a player goes down when he could have stayed up, it's a dive IMO.

I really don't agree with this 'entitled to go down' nonsense.

[Scouse Hibee]

It was a penalty,anyone who thinks otherwise hasnae a ***** clue


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[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Used to be that it had to be a foul before it was a penalty, but now if there is contact it is a penalty. Everyone knows that. When i was watching the game, as soon as I saw him go wide, it was 100% nailed on that he would fall over. 100%. If I know that, then the 'keeper should know that as well and think accordingly.

Would appear that the old Rangers forward John McDonald, was way, way ahead of him time when he was doing this in the early 80's. He would be worth a fortune now.

[jdships]

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But not enough for him to fall down.

If a player goes down when he could have stayed up, it's a dive IMO.

I really don't agree with this 'entitled to go down' nonsense.

If you have played football at all you will know that if you are running at pace and there is contact with the lower part of your body it is 99% certain you will go down .
I am not defending Suarez overall ( he has history !!) just this instance which I feel the Ref got 100% right .

[lapsedhibee]

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Would appear that the old Rangers forward John McDonald, was way, way ahead of him time when he was doing this in the early 80's. He would be worth a fortune now.

[Scònaldò]

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If you have played football at all you will know that if you are running at pace and there is contact with the lower part of your body it is 99% certain you will go down .
I am not defending Suarez overall ( he has history !!) just this instance which I feel the Ref got 100% right .

I've watched it again a few times and I still don't think their was enough contact for him to go down, I still feel he could stayed on his feet but hey ho, opinions and all that