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    Out Of Contract Players - Who Would You Keep?

    Mullen's gone, Taiwo, Vine, Thomson & Clancy all apparently told they can go.......and surely Zoubir offski too.

    That leaves Williams, McPake, Harris, Maybury, Cairney, Murdoch, Caldwell, Grant and Handling (not sure if his contract expires in June or December 2014).


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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmounthibby View Post
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    Mullen's gone, Taiwo, Vine, Thomson & Clancy all apparently told they can go.......and surely Zoubir offski too.

    That leaves Williams, McPake, Harris, Maybury, Cairney, Murdoch, Caldwell, Grant and Handling (not sure if his contract expires in June or December 2014).
    Would give Handling and Caldwell both a 2 year deals to prove there worth on loan and still leave time to get into the 1st team once they are back from loan. And they won't be on much money at all so worth the risk

    Would try and get William and Harris on long term deals!

    And a year contract to McPake and Cairney to prove there fitness ad worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmounthibby View Post
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    Mullen's gone, Taiwo, Vine, Thomson & Clancy all apparently told they can go.......and surely Zoubir offski too.

    That leaves Williams, McPake, Harris, Maybury, Cairney, Murdoch, Caldwell, Grant and Handling (not sure if his contract expires in June or December 2014).
    Williams and Harris are the two we must keep and I'd like to see Handling get another year to develop. Maybury's future will depend on how he fits into the coaching team.

    Cairney and one of Murdoch/Grant will depend on whether we can find a better replacement and Caldwell will need to have a very successful loan spell to stay. McPake I think may be finished here given the solid pairing of Hanlon and Nelson supported by the development of Forster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billychaotic182 View Post
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    Would give Handling and Caldwell both a 2 year deals to prove there worth on loan and still leave time to get into the 1st team once they are back from loan. And they won't be on much money at all so worth the risk

    Would try and get William and Harris on long term deals!

    And a year contract to McPake and Cairney to prove there fitness ad worth
    McPake too Mutch of a risk and now don't think we need him .Handling and Caldwell can go unless they make the type of impact others have done in past when out on loan .The fact Cummings has started ahead of them tells me they are now behind him in pecking order .i like Cairney but butcher may feel he wants someone with more pace , but don't think he would want him on a new two year contract I think there Wil be major changes in summer and just tinkering in this window .However realistically he won't be able to bring in everyone he wants in the summer so some of these players may stay
    Harris has just sined new deal and there is two year deal on table for Ben Clancy and vine will probably go at last minute if they haven't got clubs before then Thompson isn't short of admirers and he must have options .Maybury is player / clack so depends if T B wants to keep him on as clackh or bring someone else in in that capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmounthibby View Post
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    Mullen's gone, Taiwo, Vine, Thomson & Clancy all apparently told they can go.......and surely Zoubir offski too.

    That leaves Williams, McPake, Harris, Maybury, Cairney, Murdoch, Caldwell, Grant and Handling (not sure if his contract expires in June or December 2014).
    All bar mcpake for me, maybury should get the same deal as this season Murdoch is a steady back up and the three young boys should get another year at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmounthibby View Post
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    Mullen's gone, Taiwo, Vine, Thomson & Clancy all apparently told they can go.......and surely Zoubir offski too.

    That leaves Williams, McPake, Harris, Maybury, Cairney, Murdoch, Caldwell, Grant and Handling (not sure if his contract expires in June or December 2014).

    I'd let McPake go. The rest, I would keep.

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    I'd let McPake go. The rest, I would keep.


    I agree with you, I would keep Maybury in a coaching role and let the young lads with the exception of Harris go/stay out on loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billychaotic182 View Post
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    Would give Handling and Caldwell both a 2 year deals to prove there worth on loan and still leave time to get into the 1st team once they are back from loan. And they won't be on much money at all so worth the risk

    Would try and get William and Harris on long term deals!

    And a year contract to McPake and Cairney to prove there fitness ad worth
    Sorry to those players but I really believe we need to be ruthless, next season is a huge opportunity to make an impact on the league. I expect Aberdeen and dufc to be stronger and if McCall stays at Motherwell I expect them to be as strong. We need a squad to match or better those teams. How many of our out of contract players would get a game for Aberdeen or dufc? I suspect only Williams and Harris.

    I would take a chance on Handling and Booth, but we really need players who are better than any we have at the club right now. Our squad is competing with St J. to get into the top six, we need a vast improvement in personnel.

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    Just Williams; Harris;and one of the two strikers for me. It's all about opinions but I feel we can do better than the rest.

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    keep cairney , harris and williams bin the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billychaotic182 View Post
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    Would give Handling and Caldwell both a 2 year deals to prove there worth on loan and still leave time to get into the 1st team once they are back from loan. And they won't be on much money at all so worth the risk

    Would try and get William and Harris on long term deals!

    And a year contract to McPake and Cairney to prove there fitness ad worth
    Agree with Harris and Williams. They must be priorities. I'd also give Cairney another year, maybe with an option for another year beyond that on our part. I think he gives us something a wee but different, we just need to get more consistency.

    We can't carry players who are on the treatment table as often as McPake any more. I'd let him go. Not always the best but the guy has put his body on the line at times.

    Don't think we can give two year deals out to the likes of Handling and Caldwell on the basis they might prove themselves. That's fine at 17 or 18 but at the start of next season they will both be in their early 20s. If Caldwell scores a ridiculous amount of goals at Alloa then that would give Butcher a decision to make, but as things stand now I don't think he's shown enough to get a new deal. Handling probably falls in to that category for me as well and he seems to have fallen out the picture at the moment as well.

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    Harris and Williams are absolute certs. Not too fussed about Caldwell, Handling or Cairney, still have much to prove although Cairney has looked decent recently, just not quick enough for a winger.

    McPake's time is up for me I'm afraid, taking up a decent wage for never being off the medical table. I feel rotten saying it cause he's had a horrible time with injuries and I really hope he can kick start his career somewhere, I just don't see it being ER.

    Murdoch worth a contract if he's happy to play second fiddle to Williams, which seems to be the case. Hasn't played much at all but when he has he seemed quite solid so worth keeping IMO.

    Maybury worth another year as a player/coach as back up so long as he still has the legs, which he seems to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PacoLuna View Post
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    keep cairney , harris and williams bin the rest
    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PacoLuna View Post
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    keep cairney , harris and williams bin the rest
    Hard to disagree with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by PacoLuna View Post
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    keep cairney , harris and williams bin the rest

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    I agree with you, I would keep Maybury in a coaching role and let the young lads with the exception of Harris go/stay out on loan.
    What's the big love in regarding Maybury as a coach ?? No offence to you just seem to see it mentioned quite a bit !!

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    Harris and Williams are the only definite keeps.
    Caldwell needs to bang in a lot of goals to keep his Hibs hopes alive. Handling also needs to start adding goals but i can't see him getting much game time especially if TB brings in another striker.
    While i like Cairney TB might want to bring in fresh players so something has to give. Cover for Williams will be between Grant or Murdoch, if he's any good you would have to side with youth (i.e. Grant, to sure how good he is).
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    We could get 3 players in for mcpakes wages alone, Williams and Harris for me, I think TB will sign better wide men in the summer and cairney will be surplus, I like cairney but he lacks the pace

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    We could get 3 players in for mcpakes wages alone, Williams and Harris for me, I think TB will sign better wide men in the summer and cairney will be surplus, I like cairney but he lacks the pace
    Agree with only keeping Williams and Harris, maybe see how well Cairney does in the remaining games of the season.

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    keep cairney , harris and williams bin the rest
    TBH, Harris is the only one I would offer a contract. I think Williams gets a lot more credit than he deserves. Yes he is a decent shot stopper but in terms of coming for crosses and decison making I think he is poor. I wonder if we had better keepers in the past instead of Zibi, Brown etc, he would be regarded so highly.

    As for Cairney, he lacks pace and he struggles to get past a man because of this. Although I think he has improved under Butcher, I would hope we could find a better replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotthibs1875 View Post
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    TBH, Harris is the only one I would offer a contract. I think Williams gets a lot more credit than he deserves. Yes he is a decent shot stopper but in terms of coming for crosses and decison making I think he is poor. I wonder if we had better keepers in the past instead of Zibi, Brown etc, he would be regarded so highly.

    As for Cairney, he lacks pace and he struggles to get past a man because of this. Although I think he has improved under Butcher, I would hope we could find a better replacement.
    If he was better at coming for crosses and decision making he wouldn't be at Hibs, he'd be at a much bigger club. Reality is that after years of clowns in goals, we have a good solid SPL goalie at last, and we'd be nuts to let him go.

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    Williams, Harris and Caldwell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
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    Harris and Williams are absolute certs. Not too fussed about Caldwell, Handling or Cairney, still have much to prove although Cairney has looked decent recently, just not quick enough for a winger.

    McPake's time is up for me I'm afraid, taking up a decent wage for never being off the medical table. I feel rotten saying it cause he's had a horrible time with injuries and I really hope he can kick start his career somewhere, I just don't see it being ER.

    Murdoch worth a contract if he's happy to play second fiddle to Williams, which seems to be the case. Hasn't played much at all but when he has he seemed quite solid so worth keeping IMO.

    Maybury worth another year as a player/coach as back up so long as he still has the legs, which he seems to.
    I can't remember Murdoch ever playing? Agree though that if we can keep Williams I'd be happy to keep him as back up.

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    If he was better at coming for crosses and decision making he wouldn't be at Hibs, he'd be at a much bigger club. Reality is that after years of clowns in goals, we have a good solid SPL goalie at last, and we'd be nuts to let him go.
    In the recent years we've had keeper such as Mark Brown & Stack who I believe are similar to Williams in terms of shot stopping ability and all 3 poor at coming for crosses. I'm not sure why Willliams has got as much praise as he has. In recent weeks I feel he could have done better with the goal against Hearts, he made an error against United which he was lucky not to be sent off, and was also at fault for their first goal as he was hesitant coming off his line.

    I'm not disputing that he is an improvement on keepers in the past, however, I would be hopeful Terry could find a better replacement.

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    I can't remember Murdoch ever playing? Agree though that if we can keep Williams I'd be happy to keep him as back up.
    IIRC he played v killie in the 3-1 at rugby park last season just before the cup final, doyle scored 2. Seemed safe enough for back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
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    IIRC he played v killie in the 3-1 at rugby park last season just before the cup final, doyle scored 2. Seemed safe enough for back up.
    So he did, forgot about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeds green View Post
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    We could get 3 players in for mcpakes wages alone, Williams and Harris for me, I think TB will sign better wide men in the summer and cairney will be surplus, I like cairney but he lacks the pace
    Really? How much is McPake on then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
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    Really? How much is McPake on then?
    We could get 3 players in John. They'd be pish though!

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    We could get 3 players in John. They'd be pish though!
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