Sending racist tweets or assaulting a policeman. Both actions that I would never ever condone, but relatively speaking which is the greater crime.
The reason why I ask is that a person who sent racist tweets to two ex-Rangers players has been jailed for six months, whilst a football player receives a non-custodial sentence (130 hrs of non-paid work) for assaulting two policemen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-25653860
The players - who have since left Rangers - had stated that they were "intimidated" and "shocked" by the tweets.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-25653862
St. Mirren midfielder, Paul McGowan, admitted kicking the two officers on the body in Airdrie and at Coatbridge police station. One of the attacks being a repeated assault on on officer.
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08-01-2014 03:18 PM #1Coaching Staff
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What is worse?
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08-01-2014 03:26 PM #2First Team Breakthrough
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Whilst I think the punishment are totally wrong.
The difference in the two cases are - McGowan admitted his assault - The tweeter claimed 'it wisnae me'
I think things would've been worse if McGowan had denied it - IMO he should be in HMP.
The way the law works is punishment is more severe if you deny guilt when in turn found guilty.
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Other things being equal - which in the real world they never are - physical violence is worse than political/moral violence. Sticks and stones etc innit?
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08-01-2014 03:28 PM #4Left by mutual consent!
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08-01-2014 03:41 PM #5First Team Breakthrough
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I personally would have liked to have seen alternatives to custodial sentences in both cases although I (and I daresay others who have been subject to it) am glad that racist abuse is being taken seriously by the police, PFs and courts.
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Assaults on Police officers are no more serious than assaults on members of the public in the eyes of the law. Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
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130 ***** hours of unpaid work for assaulting not one...but two people, AND after previous assault
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08-01-2014 04:19 PM #8Testimonial Due
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Agreed but I wonder who his brief is ! Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote130 ***** hours of unpaid work for assaulting not one...but two people, AND after previous assault ******* result that is eh incredible
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never heard of him, Mark Lutton, McGowan maybe needs to get a grip on his drinking habits
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Anyone remember the story of Newcastle fan Barry Rogerson?
Punched a police HORSE, admitted it in court and got jailed for 12 months and given a six year football banning order...Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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It is actually, assaulting a police office is a desperate crime and more serious according to scot's law Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
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He's a lucky boy
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I suppose the judge in each case has based the sentences on the information available to them.
Personally I think the courts and their out of touch judges are the weak point in the system. I'd have jailed them both.Space to let
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Custodial sestances are a joke - what about that family that imprisoned, physically and mentally abused and treated him as a slave that vulnerable guy reported,this week they left him a "broken man" most one got iirc was 6 years which as we know will be reduced down. Disgusting.
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What about the defendants? ;) Originally Posted by Jack
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aka Conan the barbarian :-] Originally Posted by The Story So Far...
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09-01-2014 06:06 PM #16Coaching Staff
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Didn't the sheriff say McGowan wasn't at risk of reoffending? Yet he was up for reoffending.Good job he didn't throw in a few sectarian insults.Nowadays you can't insult anyone but you can lamp a couple of cops(not for the first time)and get away with it.
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