Steve Lomas sacked

[lucky]

Lomas sacked by Millwall after only being in charge since the start of the season. Another manager who did well in Scottish football but fails down south. In the premier league just now Hughes, McCall, McInnes and Butcher have all failed to last down south but are regarded as being decent managers in Scotland. Is our game now not even able to produce decent managers?

[Steven_Hibs]

Different ball game down there. Why hand out 3 year deals if they are going to sack after 6 months. Costing clubs fortunes

[Sir David Gray]

There are only 3 managers out of the four leagues of English football who have been in charge for more than 5 years and only one (Arsene Wenger) has been in charge for more than 8 years.

More than half (51) of clubs have appointed their current manager within the last 12 months.

In Scotland, only one manager has been in charge for more than 5 years (Dick Campbell at Forfar).

Almost half (20) of the clubs in the SPFL have appointed their current manager within the last 12 months.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Lomas sacked by Millwall after only being in charge since the start of the season. Another manager who did well in Scottish football but fails down south. In the premier league just now Hughes, McCall, McInnes and Butcher have all failed to last down south but are regarded as being decent managers in Scotland. Is our game now not even able to produce decent managers?

How many English managers do well down south. Look at the EPL managers

Arsenal ................. French
Man City ............... Chilean / Italian
Chelsea ................ Portuguese
Liverpool ............... Irish
Everton ................ Spanish
Newcastle ............. English
Man Utd ................ Scottish
Spurs ................... English ..... for now
Southampton ......... Argentinian
Stoke ................... Welsh
Swansea ............... Danish
Hull ...................... English
Aston Villa ............. Scottish
Norwich ................ English
West Brom ............ No manager ... the last one was Scottish
Cardiff .................. Scottish
Crystal Palace ........ English
Fulham ................. Dutch
West Ham ............. English
Sunderland ............ Uruguayan

It seems to me that its not only the SPFL which isnt producing top class managers at the moment. I presume your point is made on the back of the lack of top class playing talent coming out of Scotland as well. But as long as kids are being poached from our clubs the minute they are out of nappies and can kick a ball straight its going to remain that way. It will be interesting to see if young Gauld at Dundee Utd can resist the big bucks from down south. It would be a shame to see him disappear into some English giants 'developement squad' never to be seen again.

[zlatan]

Yet Colin Calderwood was somehow decentish down at those levels.

[hibby rae]

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How many English managers do well down south. Look at the EPL managers

Arsenal ................. French
Man City ............... Chilean / Italian
Chelsea ................ Portuguese
Liverpool ............... Irish
Everton ................ Spanish
Newcastle ............. English
Man Utd ................ Scottish
Spurs ................... English ..... for now
Southampton ......... Argentinian
Stoke ................... Welsh
Swansea ............... Danish
Hull ...................... English
Aston Villa ............. Scottish
Norwich ................ English
West Brom ............ No manager ... the last one was Scottish
Cardiff .................. Scottish
Crystal Palace ........ English
Fulham ................. Dutch
West Ham ............. English
Sunderland ............ Uruguayan

It seems to me that its not only the SPFL which isnt producing top class managers at the moment. I presume your point is made on the back of the lack of top class playing talent coming out of Scotland as well. But as long as kids are being poached from our clubs the minute they are out of nappies and can kick a ball straight its going to remain that way. It will be interesting to see if young Gauld at Dundee Utd can resist the big bucks from down south. It would be a shame to see him disappear into some English giants 'developement squad' never to be seen again.

The last Englishman to win the top flight was Howard Wilkinson. I think since then all they've managed to win is one fa cu and a couple of league cups.

[Jones28]

The managerial merry-go-round continues! Unbelievable stats with regards to mangers coming and going. In both leagues too

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Lomas out McKay in?

[Sir David Gray]

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The last Englishman to win the top flight was Howard Wilkinson. I think since then all they've managed to win is one fa cu and a couple of league cups.

As you've said, 1991-92 was the last time an English manager won the top league in England.

Since then, two English managers have won the FA Cup (Joe Royle and Harry Redknapp) and four have won the League Cup (Steve McClaren, Brian Little, Roy Evans and Ron Atkinson).

Six major honours in over twenty years!

[Hibernia Na Eir]

way out his depth.

[NOLA]

hated by the Millwall fans before he even managed 1 game for them, was never going to work out well, silly appointment by the board and its cost them.