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**hibsbollah** · 21-12-2013 04:57 PM

Very disappointing. We looked a worse team when we got the man advantage. Less hoofball than lately but still a criminal lack of urgency and creativity in the final third.

Williams 6 worrying fumble early on, otherwise not much to do.

McGivern 3 Another poor display full of mistimed jumps and wasted deliveries.
Hanlon 6 Best performance in quite a while. Kept May quiet.
Nelson 6
Forster 7 MOTM for me. Has to be considered for RB permanantly on that display.

Cairney 3 Lost possession so easily again and again. Main contribution seemed to be two dives in the box.
Robertson 5 solid enough, surprised to see him subbed.
Craig 5
Stevenson 5 Poor start, was improving as the game progressed

Cummings 6 Decent start although faded slightly. Want to see more.
Collins 6 An improvement on recent displays.

Subs
Zoubir: Predictable.
Thomson: Got the ball a lot. Gave the ball away a lot. Shouted at teammates a lot.

Fans: Quietest first half I can remember. Apart from screaming at the ref noone seemed to be up for it today

Credit to 43 for wakening up second half.

Ref: I have no words.

***Brightside*** · 21-12-2013 04:59 PM

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Very disappointing. We looked a worse team when we got the man advantage. Less hoofball than lately but still a criminal lack of urgency and creativity in the final third.

Williams 6 worrying fumble early on, otherwise not much to do.

McGivern 3 Another poor display full of mistimed jumps and wasted deliveries.
Hanlon 6 Best performance in quite a while. Kept May quiet.
Nelson 6
Forster 7 MOTM for me. Has to be considered for RB permanantly on that display.

Cairney 3 Lost possession so easily again and again. Main contribution seemed to be two dives in the box.
Robertson 5 solid enough, surprised to see him subbed.
Craig 5
Stevenson 5 Poor start, was improving as the game progressed

Cummings 6 Decent start although faded slightly. Want to see more.
Collins 6 An improvement on recent displays.

Subs
Zoubir: Predictable.
Thomson: Got the ball a lot. Gave the ball away a lot. Shouted at teammates a lot.

Fans: Quietest first half I can remember. Apart from screaming at the ref noone seemed to be up for it today

Credit to 43 for wakening up second half.

Ref: I have no words.

Agree with that except Hanlon who was a 10 today. Perfect display.

**Pretty Boy** · 21-12-2013 05:14 PM

William 6

Forster 7
Hanlon 8
Nelson 6
McGivern 5

Stevenson 5
Craig 4
Robertson 4
Cairney 4

Cummings 6
Collins 6

***wookie70*** · 21-12-2013 05:15 PM

Williams 6 not much to do.

McGivern 4 Crosses poor and no idea why he constantly strays towards our centre halves when the ball is on his side
Hanlon 7 Very solid and bossed May.
Nelson 6 Won his aerial battles
Forster 6 Drove forward the whole game but looked very poor in the first half when both teams were full strength.

Cairney 4 Looks fitter to me but kept on coming inside where losing possession is more dangerous. Never really beat his man and gave ball away far too often
Robertson 5 I can understand why he did it but what a stupid booking to get.
Craig 3 Really poor today. Negative and did nothing of note at all. He was worse than a man short for me and at times just got in the way. Put him on the left and drop Lewis to left back.
Stevenson 6 Crossing poor but worked tirelessly. Took a booking for the team when May was breaking into our half one on one

Cummings 6 Did well and looked dangerous at times. No understanding with Collins though and played as two separate entities.
Collins 7 Looked more dangerous today. Unlucky with header and held the ball up really well particularly in first half. Played well and denied a stonewaller

Subs
Zoubir: Nothing of note
Thomson: Too slow and a poor sub from Butcher. He did at least look to play the ball into strikers feet round the box but St J were mob handed by the time it got there

Ref: Possibly the worst I have ever witnessed. Booed off by both sets of fans and some really shocking decisions. The corner at the end is one of the worse decisions I have seen. It was shaping up to be a decent game until he got involved booking Collins for absolutely nothing. Should be pulled up and dropped down the leagues. Appaling

**inglisavhibs** · 21-12-2013 05:16 PM

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Very disappointing. We looked a worse team when we got the man advantage. Less hoofball than lately but still a criminal lack of urgency and creativity in the final third.

Williams 6 worrying fumble early on, otherwise not much to do.

McGivern 3 Another poor display full of mistimed jumps and wasted deliveries.
Hanlon 6 Best performance in quite a while. Kept May quiet.
Nelson 6
Forster 7 MOTM for me. Has to be considered for RB permanantly on that display.

Cairney 3 Lost possession so easily again and again. Main contribution seemed to be two dives in the box.
Robertson 5 solid enough, surprised to see him subbed.
Craig 5
Stevenson 5 Poor start, was improving as the game progressed

Cummings 6 Decent start although faded slightly. Want to see more.
Collins 6 An improvement on recent displays.

Subs
Zoubir: Predictable.
Thomson: Got the ball a lot. Gave the ball away a lot. Shouted at teammates a lot.

Fans: Quietest first half I can remember. Apart from screaming at the ref noone seemed to be up for it today

Credit to 43 for wakening up second half.

Ref: I have no words.

Agree with most except Stevenson who can do nothing in that area. Both him and Cairney were poor today. Too many crosses from deep areas as we have no players who can get to the byline. We are more competitive now but have no cutting edge. Foster who is not a natural right back actually got more crosses in to the danger area than all the other players put together. The fans are quiet because the players are not generating enough excitement. We could have won the game at the end though with Collins header and then the penalty incident (I,ll wait till I see the tv but it looked a stonewaller)
Mcgivern started quite well today but his fitness still seems to be a real problem.

Elephant Stone · 21-12-2013 05:18 PM

Williams 6

McGivern 4. Needs to cut out the needless fouls, so frustrating.
Hanlon 7
Nelson 7
Forster 6

Stevenson 6.
Craig 5
Robertson 5
Cairney 1.

Cummings 6. Looks promising.
Collins 6

***hibee_girl*** · 21-12-2013 05:19 PM

Williams 6 - didn't have a whole lot to do

Forster 6 - was good to see him getting forward so much
Hanlon 8 - thought he was solid today
Nelson 6 - did okay
McGivern 3 - defensively he's good but someone needs to have a word with him and tell him he doesn't need to leather the ball every time he comes into contact with it, his passing is shocking

Cairney 5 - quiet game from him today
Craig 5 - barely noticed him
Robertson 4 - didn't do much apart from get booked
Stevenson 5 - didn't do anything wrong but didn't set the game alight either

Collins 6 - good game from him, really helped Cummings today
Cummings 6 - was impressed with him today, a lot stronger than I expected and he linked up well with Collins.

***WhileTheChief..*** · 21-12-2013 05:23 PM

Thought Forster, Hanlon, Collins and Cummings did well.

Thompson looked more like his old self, much more direct than previous games.

McGivern was woeful.

The rest were all just average, as they have been most of the season.

Another non event all round.

**Purehibee_MYB** · 21-12-2013 05:39 PM

Can't be bothered going through the whole team but some of my opinions on the players:

Hanlon 8- Best he's played for a while, May couldn't get a look in.

Cairney 4- Didn't seem to really have an idea what to do when the ball came to his feet

Craig 4- Probably the worst I've seen him play in a Hibs shirt, seemed to be slowing down play and stifling chances rather than creating them.

Midfield overall 4- Static at times and not helping to create chances. Remember one point in the first half where they were all standing still about 30 yards out in a nice, static, but organised line whilst Forster was trying to play the ball in.

Collins and Cummings 7- Tireless effort and with a bit more of creativity and these two can score. Cannot be faulted for their effort.

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 21-12-2013 05:43 PM

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Williams 6

McGivern 4. Needs to cut out the needless fouls, so frustrating.

that erse could have cost us that game today, totally needless fouls to give away, ball distribution absolutely ****** appalling AS PER

**ancient hibee** · 21-12-2013 05:48 PM

Forster will never be a right back.No idea when to pass and when to run.Cummings is a long way short of being ready for this level.Both players will improve when being used properly-that is Forster at centre half and Cummings out wide.

***hibbymick*** · 21-12-2013 05:55 PM

The teams lacks craft, it would be great to have a couple of players on the same wavelength. Collins doesnt do it for me.

***Brightside*** · 21-12-2013 05:56 PM

eh? Forster was fantastic today and i wouldn't even think of bring back Clancy in that role anytime soon.

**hibsbollah** · 21-12-2013 05:56 PM

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Forster will never be a right back.No idea when to pass and when to run.Cummings is a long way short of being ready for this level.Both players will improve when being used properly-that is Forster at centre half and Cummings out wide.

Wow. Couldnt disagree more. Shaky early on but attacked the space second half in a way we havent seen since Whittaker. Id play him there in front of Lewis or Maybury.

***Jonnyboy*** · 21-12-2013 05:57 PM

I'm struggling to understand how Cairney survived the full ninety minutes as he contributed absolutely nothing

**Hero76** · 21-12-2013 06:01 PM

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I'm struggling to understand how Cairney survived the full ninety minutes as he contributed absolutely nothing

same can be said of Craig.

**Leighonel** · 21-12-2013 06:04 PM

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Agree with that except Hanlon who was a 10 today. Perfect display.

His little back heel pass towards the end of the game was brilliant.

**hibsbollah** · 21-12-2013 06:04 PM

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I'm struggling to understand how Cairney survived the full ninety minutes as he contributed absolutely nothing

Have you heard anything about his fitness/health Jonny? He doesnt look right to me.

***Jonnyboy*** · 21-12-2013 06:06 PM

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Have you heard anything about his fitness/health Jonny? He doesnt look right to me.

Haven't, no. Another thing though is his falling over in the box. Was embarrassing at times today

***Brightside*** · 21-12-2013 06:06 PM

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His little back heel pass towards the end of the game was brilliant.

He's Franco Baresi in disguise. Still there was some clown behind me slagging him off for doing it!

**hibsbollah** · 21-12-2013 06:08 PM

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Haven't, no. Another thing though is his falling over in the box. Was embarrassing at times today

Im afraid his reputation is justified. He needs to cut it out.

***Jonnyboy*** · 21-12-2013 06:10 PM

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Im afraid his reputation is justified. He needs to cut it out.

Agreed

**Broken Gnome** · 21-12-2013 06:11 PM

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Im afraid his reputation is justified. He needs to cut it out.

I think if he embarrasses even himself by diving so pathetically and decides to get up really REALLY quickly, then he gets away with it. For now. Saves himself a good few bookings. Rubbish but canny attempt at cheating.

**marleyhib** · 21-12-2013 06:14 PM

Hanlon great, Cairney lost, Craig awful, Cummings promising the rest average.

In one word : boring

**theonlywayisup** · 21-12-2013 06:37 PM

Opinions eh. I actually thought that Cairney was one of our better players.

***Jonnyboy*** · 21-12-2013 06:42 PM

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Opinions eh. I actually thought that Cairney was one of our better players.

Indeed

***Hiber-nation*** · 21-12-2013 07:01 PM

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Forster will never be a right back.No idea when to pass and when to run.Cummings is a long way short of being ready for this level.Both players will improve when being used properly-that is Forster at centre half and Cummings out wide.

Can't believe anyone could say that. He is looking like a natural RB and will improve.

***Hiber-nation*** · 21-12-2013 07:02 PM

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Wow. Couldnt disagree more. Shaky early on but attacked the space second half in a way we havent seen since Whittaker. Id play him there in front of Lewis or Maybury.

Definitely a shade or 2 of Whitty. He'll never reach that class going forward but very promising.

Can someone tell Nelson to play the short pass evry time as his long passing is horrendous.

**down-the-slope** · 21-12-2013 07:16 PM

Defensively as a team we were good (McGivern individually continues to go back wards)

Up front Collins and Cummings worked very hard and looked sharp - Collins looks pleased to have someone who would run and work and make space.... made good runs which should have seen them played in several times...But midfield on different wavelength

Midfield - apart for first 15 minutes second half when they drove forward and committed players (no surprise its then we created most chances) they were very poor and lacked penetration and good decision making with final ball

As an aside Hanlon is thriving once again when he has a reliable partner - although that reliability is that you know Nelson will batter (feet / head even chest) the ball up field ... I wonder if he comes back at night and shouts 'Honey I'm Home' as he batters the front door off its hinges ....