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    Hibs crest Q

    The baw is for the fitbaw.

    The castle is Edinburgh Castle.

    The harp is the Irish Harp.

    So what is the name of the ship that represents Leith?


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    Is it not to represent the docks/shipping industry in Leith in general? Just a guess...!

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    Possibly "Great Michael" , although I think the ship only represents Leiths roots with shipping and the docks.



    http://www.newhavenonforth.org.uk/great_michael.html

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    It's to represent leith, never known it to have a name - persevere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    The baw is for the fitbaw.

    The castle is Edinburgh Castle.

    The harp is the Irish Harp.

    So what is the name of the ship that represents Leith?
    the Great Micheal,largest warship of it's time,built in Newhaven ?

    beaten to it !

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    The ship represents Port Leith. I didn't think it was meant to represent any ship in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs07p View Post
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    Possibly "Great Michael" , although I think the ship only represents Leiths roots with shipping and the docks.



    http://www.newhavenonforth.org.uk/great_michael.html

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    Hibs crest 2 masts : Great Michael 4 :-)

    Something that crossed my mind too as did Persevere.

    This isn't really a quiz! I don't know the answer :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Hibs crest 2 masts : Great Michael 4 :-)

    Something that crossed my mind too as did Persevere.

    This isn't really a quiz! I don't know the answer :-)

    I just connected it to the most famous Leith built ship, that I had heard of.

    GGTTH

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    In the Hibs badge its meant to represent Leith as you say, but its just a ship as far as I am aware, though its meaning in the Leith coat of arms may have some other background and meaning to it.

    The White background to the Castle is supposed to represent Arthurs seat I'm lead to believe.

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    The actual Leith Crest is the same ship design as on the Hibs badge but with Mary and Jesus on it (See here)

    I think that makes it unlikely that it was based on an actual ship.
    Last edited by Keith_M; 24-11-2013 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Oops. Meant to write Jesus, not Joseph

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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    The actual Leith Crest is the same ship design as on the Hibs badge but with Mary and Joseph on it (See here)

    I think that makes it unlikely that it was based on an actual ship.
    the ship is simply a nod to the fact that Hibs are associated with (but not from) Leith.

    The Great Michael has nothing to do with Leith - Newhaven has always been part of Edinburgh.

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    Filled Rolls is right in that the Great Michael was a Newhaven ship, although Newhaven was part of Leith from 1832-1920 (see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfthom...9400/lightbox/).

    The identity of the ship (and its passengers) are contested and although the most common interpretation is that the ship represents Leith's shipping history and the Virgin Mary was thrown for religious good measure, I'm informed this is not the case.

    Apparently, the Leith coat of arms was inspired by those of French knights based in Leith with Mary Queen of Scots. The lady on the ship is Mary Magdalene travelling to France (hence the French knights' arms) from Egypt and the baby is her son (very Dan Brown, I know). The cloud (occasionally depicted with rays of sunshine ) represents God's presence and his protection over them.

    Those knights were probably a sign of things to come but to answer the original question, I don't think we'll ever know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keekaboo View Post
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    The actual Leith Crest is the same ship design as on the Hibs badge but with Mary and Joseph on it (See here)

    I think that makes it unlikely that it was based on an actual ship.
    My memory might be failing me but that looks awfie like the Leith Academy badge in the 1970s and very close to the Links Primary school badge of the 1960s

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    I've always thought of the ship as the Persevere. I've been wrong before though
    This is how it feels

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    To be fair I think the schoolboy that came up with his doodle might not have been looking into things in this depth. Would imagine David Forsyth would know/find out the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filled Rolls View Post
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    the ship is simply a nod to the fact that Hibs are associated with (but not from) Leith.

    The Great Michael has nothing to do with Leith - Newhaven has always been part of Edinburgh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by linlithgowhibbie View Post
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    My memory might be failing me but that looks awfie like the Leith Academy badge in the 1970s and very close to the Links Primary school badge of the 1960s
    Your right, as do leith athletic fc. I think the boat represents leith/docks. Always fancied getting my avatar as a tattoo. Here is a wee bit about persevere. http://www.locationscotland.com/blog/2012/12

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    Quote Originally Posted by VivaHibs View Post
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    Filled Rolls is right in that the Great Michael was a Newhaven ship, although Newhaven was part of Leith from 1832-1920 (see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfthom...9400/lightbox/).

    The identity of the ship (and its passengers) are contested and although the most common interpretation is that the ship represents Leith's shipping history and the Virgin Mary was thrown for religious good measure, I'm informed this is not the case.

    Apparently, the Leith coat of arms was inspired by those of French knights based in Leith with Mary Queen of Scots. The lady on the ship is Mary Magdalene travelling to France (hence the French knights' arms) from Egypt and the baby is her son (very Dan Brown, I know). The cloud (occasionally depicted with rays of sunshine ) represents God's presence and his protection over them.

    Those knights were probably a sign of things to come but to answer the original question, I don't think we'll ever know.



    The golden halos suggest that the subjects are 'Divine' hence good chance it is Mary & Jesus (not Joseph as stated earlier - unless she married a dwarf).

    The bairn looks nothing like Dan Brown, BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    The golden halos suggest that the subjects are 'Divine' hence good chance it is Mary & Jesus (not Joseph as stated earlier - unless she married a dwarf).

    The bairn looks nothing like Dan Brown, BTW.
    But....... if it is Mary Magdalene and she was married to Jesus..the wee baby would be the grandson of God and therefore he too would be divine
    and still look nothing like Dan Brown. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilmartinrocks View Post
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    But....... if it is Mary Magdalene and she was married to Jesus..the wee baby would be the grandson of God and therefore he too would be divine
    and still look nothing like Dan Brown. :)
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