Pay what you can at Cliftonhill

[CallumLaidlaw]

Will be interesting what crowd shows up and what people pay!

http://spfl.co.uk/news/article/albio...-yon-can-game/

[Hermit Crab]

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Will be interesting what crowd shows up and what people pay!

http://spfl.co.uk/news/article/albio...-yon-can-game/

Good idea. We could try something similar for the partick game?

[Pete]

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Good idea. We could try something similar for the partick game?

This sort of flexible pricing would be a bad idea.

People would clog up the pods asking for compensation for previous matches.

[Just_Jimmy]

Surely no one is handing over £5/£10/£15 when they could get in for a £1?

It's nuts.

Imagine if volkswagon said you can have the new golf for £100 but if you like you can pay £20,000. Not happening.

It's a stupid idea. It might encourage more fans at £1 each but as soon as it's £10 again they'll be gone.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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Surely no one is handing over £5/£10/£15 when they could get in for a £1?

It's nuts.

Imagine if volkswagon said you can have the new golf for £100 but if you like you can pay £20,000. Not happening.

It's a stupid idea. It might encourage more fans at £1 each but as soon as it's £10 again they'll be gone.

It's ok for 1 game. No one has emotional ties to Volkswagen. I know if Hibs done it, I wouldn't pay £1. Hopefully the people the normally go, decide to pay a tenner or something, while people that normally can't afford it, will pay the smaller amounts. Can see all the away fans only paying £1 tho.

[hibby rae]

And what about us season ticket holders? Do we get reimbursed then if they try a scheme like that?

[fat freddy]

I'd like to see a 'pay when you leave' system introduced at easter rd...the idea being you pay what you want based on the performance you have just witnessed...a nil nil draw you might throw a fiver in the bucket, a defeat you might give them your spare change, a three nil win against hearts, you just leave your debit card and pin number with Rod Petrie.

[Hermit Crab]

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And what about us season ticket holders? Do we get reimbursed then if they try a scheme like that?

Ok I'll bite. Why? It would be a one off and as a season ticket holder I wouldn't mind if hibs done this for one game. Anything to help get the crowds back.

[Hibbyradge]

lol

[Saorsa]

Nonsense idea, how many people would pay mair than they have tae, if they could get in for a quid they wouldnae pay a tenner even if they could afford it.

[Weststandwanab]

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Ok I'll bite. Why? It would be a one off and as a season ticket holder I wouldn't mind if hibs done this for one game. Anything to help get the crowds back.

As a season tickets holder I agree with this view.

[hibby rae]

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Ok I'll bite. Why? It would be a one off and as a season ticket holder I wouldn't mind if hibs done this for one game. Anything to help get the crowds back.

As someone else said I think you'd probably see people come, pay the minimum and then not bother again. I don't think it's a terrible idea but details like that would need to be worked out. I'd probably favour the scheme if it was for children in a bid to entice younger supporters or free tickets for schools now and again etc.

[Saorsa]

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Ok I'll bite. Why? It would be a one off and as a season ticket holder I wouldn't mind if hibs done this for one game. Anything to help get the crowds back.

Well as a ST I disagee. Why should people who have deserted the club be rewarded with cheap games while those who remained loyal have already paid more. They want tae come back, let them pay what others do, some will turn up for the cheap game and then no bother again 'til the next cheap game. Lets have two cheap games a season and totally devalue season tickets altogether.

[Hibbyradge]

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As someone else said I think you'd probably see people come, pay the minimum and then not bother again. I don't think it's a terrible idea but details like that would need to be worked out. I'd probably favour the scheme if it was for children in a bid to entice younger supporters or free tickets for schools now and again etc.

It currently costs £22 for an adult to watch a game. I don't know anyone who thinks that's too cheap.

How many do you think would even pay a tenner? Many would pay the minimum.

It wouldn't be "Pay what you can", it would be "Pay as little as your conscience will let you".

And, after a few liveners before the game, the conscience will have little to say.

Edit: Having said all that, if Hibs ever do this, I'll make sure I take full advantage of their generosity. Wetherspoons is currently selling real Ale for £1.29 a pint. That extra £21 will keep me in beer for the weekend!

[Scouse Hibee]

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Well as a ST I disagee. Why should people who have deserted the club be rewarded with cheap games while those who remained loyal have already paid more. They want tae come back, let them pay what others do, some will turn up for the cheap game and then no bother again 'til the next cheap game. Lets have two cheap games a season and totally devalue season tickets altogether.

Unless they allow season ticket holders to request a proportionate refund for each of these games. Pissed off with ideas that always benefit non ST holders. As for the pay on the way out suggestion, going on recent performances they would have to pay me!!

[Hibbyradge]

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Unless they allow season ticket holders to request a proportionate refund for each of these games. Pissed off with ideas that always benefit non ST holders. As for the pay on the way out suggestion, going on recent performances they would have to pay me!!

You've enjoyed the games so much you wouldn't leave unless they paid you?

Weirdo.

[hibby rae]

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You've enjoyed the games so much you wouldn't leave unless they paid you?

Weirdo.

He's a masochist, comes from the last twenty years watching Liverpool

[Scouse Hibee]

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You've enjoyed the games so much you wouldn't leave unless they paid you?

Weirdo.

Compensation

[Scouse Hibee]

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He's a masochist, comes from the last twenty years watching Liverpool

Unfortunately I've spent the last twenty years watching this sheite.

[Hibercelona]

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You've enjoyed the games so much you wouldn't leave unless they paid you?

Weirdo.

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[Hermit Crab]

A suggestion for one game and there's a bit of bed wetting about people getting in on the cheap and part refunds for s/t holders. One game folks. Tighter than Petrie at times. ;)

[Dashing Bob S]

This is one for the Jambos, I think.

It's a stunt they'll surely try before long, and which will backfire.

[Greentinted]

A fiddlers xmas and birthday come at once methinks. Too hard to maintain ongoing checks as the punters are coming in.

[Scouse Hibee]

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A suggestion for one game and there's a bit of bed wetting about people getting in on the cheap and part refunds for s/t holders. One game folks. Tighter than Petrie at times. ;)

Bed wetting! People giving an opinion is hardly bed wetting now is it.

[Saorsa]

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A suggestion for one game and there's a bit of bed wetting about people getting in on the cheap and part refunds for s/t holders. One game folks. Tighter than Petrie at times. ;)

I'll tell you why I disagree with cheap offers. In the last 6 years something like 4,500 fans have decided tae stop going, a choice they are perfectly entitled tae make considering the rubbish that's been on offer.

Others made a different choice and decided this is our team and we're sticking with it anyway. In the last 6 years myself and others have spent over 2K (full adult prices) on season tickets tae keep the club financially supported in that time despite having tae watch said rubbish, while some others may have contributed next tae nothing.

Why should the people who have walked away be rewarded with cheap this and cheap that while others have and continue tae pay through the nose. How about for a change an idea tae reward those who remained loyal instead of those who never bothered?

I wouldnae mind something cheap for a change instead of subsidising every other cheap ticket in the ground. IMO these offers are of very little value anyway, you'll get some who'll turn up and will only return for the next cheap game, they'll make little difference tae crowds except for those one off games.

What's on the park will be the best thing tae temp folk back, prices went up at least once when Mowbray was the manager, that never stopped the crowds going up with them.

[Hibbyradge]

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A suggestion for one game and there's a bit of bed wetting about people getting in on the cheap and part refunds for s/t holders. One game folks. Tighter than Petrie at times. ;)

If you try something and it fails badly, you wouldn't do it again, would you? No, of course not. We learn from our mistakes and we don't repeat them.

If you know in advance that something is going to fail badly, would you still go ahead with it, just to prove it would fail?

No, of course not.

Learning from our mistakes is the right thing to do, when we've made them.

But learning from other's mistakes before we copy them, is the clever thing to do.

[gegs70]

I would honestly rather see season ticket prices pegged back to encourage people to buy them as the games seem to be all over the place that most folks miss a few games. The way hibs have been playing too £28 for hearts or Celtic games played at lunch times on TV is far too expensive. The Scottish game really is overpriced at the moment...they need to reduce cost and build up the fan base that actually go to games!!!

[aunty joyce]

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Well as a ST I disagee. Why should people who have deserted the club be rewarded with cheap games while those who remained loyal have already paid more. They want tae come back, let them pay what others do, some will turn up for the cheap game and then no bother again 'til the next cheap game. Lets have two cheap games a season and totally devalue season tickets altogether.

I too am a season ticket holder and wondered if allowing S/T holders to purchase an additional ticket for say £5 to the Partick Thistle game could be a option. I remember when the club offered S/T holders a free additional ticket to a game, it obviously made a huge difference to both the attendance & atmosphere?!?
I say £5 because I don't think it's feasible to give the tickets away free as a higher attendance will require additional stadium staff which would cost the club money - just a suggestion?

[Hibbyradge]

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I too am a season ticket holder and wondered if allowing S/T holders to purchase an additional ticket for say £5 to the Partick Thistle game could be a option. I remember when the club offered S/T holders a free additional ticket to a game, it obviously made a huge difference to both the attendance & atmosphere?!?
I say £5 because I don't think it's feasible to give the tickets away free as a higher attendance will require additional stadium staff which would cost the club money - just a suggestion?

Why though?

A few more folk might turn up for the subsidised game, but we already know that lowering prices does not increase attendances in the longer term.

In your scenario, many of the people who the ST holders give the £5 tickets to would have been going to the game at full price anyway, so Hibs would lose money for, as I pointed out above, no tangible benefit.

Last week we had people arguing for ICT fans to be given free admission and others saying that Hibs should have paid for their transport to the game. Now we're going to reduce income even further by letting people pay what they fancy.

Next thing we'll hear calls for Hibs to pay transfer fees and high salaries.

You know, it wouldn't surprise me if the footballing authorities stopped taking the fans seriously.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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I'll tell you why I disagree with cheap offers. In the last 6 years something like 4,500 fans have decided tae stop going, a choice they are perfectly entitled tae make considering the rubbish that's been on offer.

Others made a different choice and decided this is our team and we're sticking with it anyway. In the last 6 years myself and others have spent over 2K (full adult prices) on season tickets tae keep the club financially supported in that time despite having tae watch said rubbish, while some others may have contributed next tae nothing.

Why should the people who have walked away be rewarded with cheap this and cheap that while others have and continue tae pay through the nose. How about for a change an idea tae reward those who remained loyal instead of those who never bothered?

I wouldnae mind something cheap for a change instead of subsidising every other cheap ticket in the ground. IMO these offers are of very little value anyway, you'll get some who'll turn up and will only return for the next cheap game, they'll make little difference tae crowds except for those one off games.

What's on the park will be the best thing tae temp folk back, prices went up at least once when Mowbray was the manager, that never stopped the crowds going up with them.

When the club moves to an enhanced access and ticketing system, one of the key things will be some form of loyalty system alongside other benefits. This is something that the club has been working on. Systems work as folks will appreciate doesn't happen overnight but the club has made good progress on this as outlined in the last LWt meeting.

Re reducing prices - the only way to go after lowering is raising. If it was the solution to all ills then would everyone not do it? I think the club is being fairly creative with its incentives but as ever there's always more that can be done...

hibs kids games - increased by a further game this season
reduced tickets to Stranraer and Hearts televised cup game
first 250? family STs in the FF lower kids went free
abolised booking fees for online and in-person ticket purchases

how does this compare with other SPFL clubs?
someone mentions Partick letting kids go free (was that for all games?)
if you look at the relative cost of that in comparison to the Hibs Kids/ST deals what does that equate to in £ & p ? Probably less? Partick has a lower cost base than Hibs (although I see they are building an academy so will increase) do we turn round to TB and say sorry we're cutting back on EM?


I agree with DD a don't think it's always about cost - I would evidence the sample of calls LWT volunteers took when looking to understand and provide feedback to the club around reasons for not renewing in 2012. If TB and MM can get us playing decent stuff with pride in performce on a consistent basis then folks may be enticed back.