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    Do we have the players to turn our season around if Butcher is the new manager ?

    I think we might need some new faces as some if the current crop don't have the skill or desire to get us out of the current situation!


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    We are a million miles away from having a good squad.

    New faces and another transitional period await. Hopefully TB can bring in players who don't need months to settle.
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    We are a million miles away from having a good squad.

    New faces and another transitional period await. Hopefully TB can bring in players who don't need months to settle.
    The biggest thing the team lack just now is pride !

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    Yes, yes, yes! I strongly believe we do, TB just needs to get his training, tactics installed and we will be halfway there. It will take time, but it is important we get right behind the manager and players. For me when TB comes in it is a new season for me. He is a winner at getting the best out of his players. Sure no cups but he has been on a very tight budget at ict

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    We have a mid table squad and Tel won't be able to do much about that unless he signs some fresh talent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    We are a million miles away from having a good squad.

    New faces and another transitional period await. Hopefully TB can bring in players who don't need months to settle.
    I disagree. I think we can add a few players to -

    Williams
    McGivern
    Hanlon
    Thomson
    Robertson
    Craig
    Harris
    Heffernan

    And build the confidence of the above players, and we could do well. We have some good solid players but are missing cutting edge, and a load of confidence.

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    You know what, I'm going to stick my neck out a bit and say yes, no doubt a few signings will need to be made but I think if the players get the kick up the backside they need and played in a decent formation that plays to their strengths I think we can still have a decent season.

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    We are a million miles away from having a good squad.

    New faces and another transitional period await. Hopefully TB can bring in players who don't need months to settle.
    Totally agree.

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    We have a mid table squad and Tel won't be able to do much about that unless he signs some fresh talent
    I believe in TB but I'm not sure I believe in the players ! I want to but it's difficult at the moment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatecrasher View Post
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    You know what, I'm going to stick my neck out a bit and say yes, no doubt a few signings will need to be made but I think if the players get the kick up the backside they need and played in a decent formation that plays to their strengths I think we can still have a decent season.

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    You know what, I'm going to stick my neck out a bit and say yes, no doubt a few signings will need to be made but I think if the players get the kick up the backside they need and played in a decent formation that plays to their strengths I think we can still have a decent season.
    We don't have enough pace in our team/squad - simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBruce View Post
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    I think we might need some new faces as some if the current crop don't have the skill or desire to get us out of the current situation!
    NO

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    I disagree. I think we can add a few players to -

    Williams
    McGivern
    Hanlon
    Thomson
    Robertson
    Craig
    Harris
    Heffernan

    And build the confidence of the above players, and we could do well. We have some good solid players but are missing cutting edge, and a load of confidence.
    So from a match day squad of 18 we have 8 decent, 2 of whom i'd question there inclusion on the list.

    That's a fair bit away in my book.

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    I think most of these players are capable of playing to a higher standard than they have been.

    I know this, because they have done at other clubs, otherwise they wouldn't be here.

    Whether they can perform to a high enough standard to get us playing as well as we should be playing, i'm not entirely sure.

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    We don't have a spine to our team until we do we will struggle

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    So we get rid of the irish team we have amassed under pf. I remember when jim duffy signed 1st division players we played like a 1st division team. Now we are playing like an irish 3rd division team. No pride playing for the jersey is the biggest problem. MHIB


    QUOTE=CallumLaidlaw;3803011]I disagree. I think we can add a few players to -

    Williams
    McGivern
    Hanlon
    Thomson
    Robertson
    Craig
    Harris
    Heffernan

    And build the confidence of the above players, and we could do well. We have some good solid players but are missing cutting edge, and a load of confidence.[/QUOTE]

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    We don't have enough pace in our team/squad - simple as that.
    This has been a defining issue of our predicament. Also, I was watching today that hardly any of our players can go past a man by trick or speed, whereas several or many of the Inverness players could do this with ease.

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    I honestly think the squad we have is half decent, certainly better than what we have seen so far this season.
    Managed better then i think they will start producing, hopefully TB can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Voice Of Reason View Post
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    We don't have enough pace in our team/squad - simple as that.
    Perhaps that point was covered in the 'getting in some new players?'

    Of which I'd agree, a couple of players in with pace and we'd be a different team, plus Harris back too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBruce View Post
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    I think we might need some new faces as some if the current crop don't have the skill or desire to get us out of the current situation!
    We just need confidence instilled / increase in fitness / tactics that are simple but effective.......and players played in their natural / best positions..

    A couple of additions in Jan / U20's promoted to 1st team / injuries clearing up would all help too

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgiegreens View Post
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    So we get rid of the irish team we have amassed under pf. I remember when jim duffy signed 1st division players we played like a 1st division team. Now we are playing like an irish 3rd division team. No pride playing for the jersey is the biggest problem. MHIB
    Why on earth would you single out the Irish players? In fact, we only have 5/6 players that are Irish/NI and none of them were signed from the League of Ireland/Irish 3rd division..

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdinAyr View Post
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    Yes, yes, yes! I strongly believe we do, TB just needs to get his training, tactics installed and we will be halfway there. It will take time, but it is important we get right behind the manager and players. For me when TB comes in it is a new season for me. He is a winner at getting the best out of his players. Sure no cups but he has been on a very tight budget at ict
    I agree, we do have decent players...even vine and Collins may surprise us in the coming weeks. Have faith! And keep your fingers crossed.

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    If they can start playing passes that matter and with some urgency then yes, we will do ok under Tel

    If they keep up the pedestrian stuff then we will continue to get humped

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    Quote Originally Posted by down-the-slope View Post
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    We just need confidence instilled / increase in fitness / tactics that are simple but effective.......and players played in their natural / best positions..

    A couple of additions in Jan / U20's promoted to 1st team / injuries clearing up would all help too
    All the requirements any manager should be able to provide so why have we been pish under 4 managers or more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LioNeilMessiMYB View Post
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    Why on earth would you single out the Irish players? In fact, we only have 5/6 players that are Irish/NI and none of them were signed from the League of Ireland/Irish 3rd division..
    I think you will find that most of pf signings were irish. And pish. Just making a point. And comparing with duffy. Nothing against the irish. And the non irish were pish as well. Kujabi was the pick of the bunch.
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    We have a core of a few players who I think will do ok for us in the next few years -

    Williams - out of contract in summer
    McGivern
    Hanlon
    Forster
    Robertson
    Harris - out of contract in summer...I think...
    Heffernan
    Craig
    Thomson - but not alongside Craig

    ................................

    Bench players -

    Stevenson
    Taiwo
    Maybury
    Nelson

    .................................

    Can do without...

    McPake
    Vine
    Collins


    .................................

    What is going on with this lot...

    Handling
    Caldwell
    Stanton
    Clancy
    Cairney
    OTJ

    .................................................

    The problem is that in January there are hardly ever any decent players that move - maybe loans.

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    Criteria for new players....basic skill / creativity / speed / some leadership (mental toughness)


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    We have many problems for TB to address and aside from the obvious we have a massive lack of confidence in the side
    This is how it feels

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    We WILL be a better team when Clancy is back. Question is when will he back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    I disagree. I think we can add a few players to -

    Williams
    McGivern
    Hanlon
    Thomson
    Robertson
    Craig
    Harris
    Heffernan

    And build the confidence of the above players, and we could do well. We have some good solid players but are missing cutting edge, and a load of confidence.
    Sorry dont rate him - might just be me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
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    We have many problems for TB to address and aside from the obvious we have a massive lack of confidence in the side
    Agreed.
    Todays game (shambles) said everything that is wrong with this team at present.

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