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    If Petrie resigned...

    What would people expect from a new Chairman/CEO?
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    those who hated pat better hope that their new chosen one succeeds.

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    I would want to see a business-minded chairman who either knows football inside out or knows himself well enough to know that he needs a director of football to take care of that side of the business, thus freeing him up to grow revenues etc.

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    Someone with real drive and gusto, who can lead us forward.

    Someone who can engage with supporter feelings.

    Someone who can lead and direct the Club to much better success levels, will show real ambitions, and wont accept continued mediocrity.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir View Post
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    those who hated pat better hope that their new chosen one succeeds.
    "There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Someone with real drive and gusto, who can lead us forward.

    Someone who can engage with supporter feelings.

    Someone who can lead and direct the Club to much better success levels, will show real ambitions, and wont accept continued mediocrity.....
    Completely agree. We need someone who wants success and drags the club up with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Completely agree. We need someone who wants success and drags the club up with them.
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    what would we expect from a new chairman/owner?

    like many, i don't have much faith in Rodders...but what are we expecting of him that he isn't delivering? He has made a few seriously crap appointments, but aside from that, what i'm wondering is if what the fans/club actually NEEDS in order to survive is a period of speculation and accumulation - we have the infrastructure in place, and if we were to bring in really good young players we'd be able to sell them on afterwards...

    obviously i have no idea what i'm on about, but i suppose my question is - how does the chairman, whoever he may be, make it exciting to be a hibs fan again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Someone with real drive and gusto, who can lead us forward.

    Someone who can engage with supporter feelings.

    Someone who can lead and direct the Club to much better success levels, will show real ambitions, and wont accept continued mediocrity.....
    Pretty much bang on for me. The current board has continually shown that they're incapable of delivering any of the above so it's vital that we bring in people who can.

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    Is it just his managerial appointments that folk want rid of rp. I agree that this is his most important job, but if he gets this one right then would there still be a need for change? Im genuinely interested in what other things rp should be doing, or isnt doing at the mo, that people want him gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Someone with real drive and gusto, who can lead us forward.

    Someone who can engage with supporter feelings.

    Someone who can lead and direct the Club to much better success levels, will show real ambitions, and wont accept continued mediocrity.....
    no offence intended, but IMO that's not much of an answer - 'i expect our chairman to be good, and to make hibs better, because he wants hibs to be better'.

    in fairness to petrie, he has sacked a bunch of managers who were mediocre - so it's not entirely fair to say that he accepts mediocrity. as far as i can see, the purse strings are the main problem with him - but is a reduced responsibility-in-spending a responsible way to run the club? i'm not saying it's not, i'm just suggesting that that is the main thing that can bring genuine excitement back to hibs, save for a great bunch of youngsters and a surprise success story in management...

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    Some folk see the man in charge of Hibs as having the job of appointing the manager and giving him enough money. That's an important part but it's only part. The man in charge sets the ambition and morale of the club. He is ultimately in charge of stuff like the recruitment of players and staff, the catering at ER, the shop, the public face of the club, the interaction with the support, the ticketing operations etc etc.

    So everything is dandy then?

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    We need an experienced business man who can get on with people, can construct and manage a 5 year plan, a good communicator, can set a positive, high performing culture, doesn't suffer fools gladly and can take tough decisions. Someone with drive and ambition, influential and able to attract new lines of funding for the club, and rewards employees and himself for success both on and off the pitch with emphasis on the team's performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Someone with real drive and gusto, who can lead us forward.

    Someone who can engage with supporter feelings.

    Someone who can lead and direct the Club to much better success levels, will show real ambitions, and wont accept continued mediocrity.....
    Do you mean sack the manager quicker?
    Surely the drive to success has to come from the manager with the help of his players.

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    There is absolutely NO NEED for a new Chairman. Rod is only part time (he has numerous other directorships) but as a football administrator he is very well thought of in the SPFL and SFA. There is no need to throw that baby out with the bathwater.

    However due to cost-cutting he has being trying to do two jobs. As a non-executive chairman he is a steady pair of hands. What we need is younger, energetic Chief Executive to:-

    1. Halt the decline of the club that's been evident since 2007
    2. Make better use of the infrastructure generated under Rod
    3. Inspire all staff under his management
    4. Create targets and share these openly with stakeholders - the supporters
    5. Run effective board meetings and be an effective manager of people
    6. Regenerate the club with great leadership
    7. Create a performance culture from top to bottom
    8. Build strong links and meet regularly with the Hibernian Family
    9. Communicate well, openly, honestly and frequently
    10. Deliver results on the park
    11. Deliver entertainment
    12. Ensure happy customers
    13. Rebuild the reputation of Hibs in the media
    14. Put energy and commitment into working with the HSA and LWT
    15. Deliver the 'Winning the Hibernian Way' Programme in full


    There are good candidates around (see link)
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...become-2049539
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Do you mean sack the manager quicker?
    Surely the drive to success has to come from the manager with the help of his players.

    I would have thought that the CEO/chairman and owner sets/set the atmosphere and culture of the club as a whole.

    What Beefster says in #12.

    If that's wrong, the team coach/ manager's on a hiding to nothing.


    IMO the real problem at Hibs is with Petrie and the Invisible Godfather.
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    There is absolutely NO NEED for a new Chairman. Rod is only part time (he has numerous other directorships) but as a football administrator he is very well thought of in the SPFL and SFA. There is no need to throw that baby out with the bathwater.

    However due to cost-cutting he has being trying to do two jobs. As a non-executive chairman he is a steady pair of hands. What we need is younger, energetic Chief Executive to:-

    1. Halt the decline of the club that's been evident since 2007
    2. Make better use of the infrastructure generated under Rod
    3. Inspire all staff under his management
    4. Create targets and share these openly with stakeholders - the supporters
    5. Run effective board meetings and be an effective manager of people
    6. Regenerate the club with great leadership
    7. Create a performance culture from top to bottom
    8. Build strong links and meet regularly with the Hibernian Family
    9. Communicate well, openly, honestly and frequently
    10. Deliver results on the park
    11. Deliver entertainment
    12. Ensure happy customers
    13. Rebuild the reputation of Hibs in the media
    14. Put energy and commitment into working with the HSA and LWT
    15. Deliver the 'Winning the Hibernian Way' Programme in full


    There are good candidates around (see link)
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...become-2049539
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    Added bonus is he's actually a Hibby.Minus points for joining BT campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogs43 View Post
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    There is absolutely NO NEED for a new Chairman. Rod is only part time (he has numerous other directorships) but as a football administrator he is very well thought of in the SPFL and SFA. There is no need to throw that baby out with the bathwater.

    However due to cost-cutting he has being trying to do two jobs. As a non-executive chairman he is a steady pair of hands. What we need is younger, energetic Chief Executive to:-


    1. Halt the decline of the club that's been evident since 2007
    2. Make better use of the infrastructure generated under Rod
    3. Inspire all staff under his management
    4. Create targets and share these openly with stakeholders - the supporters
    5. Run effective board meetings and be an effective manager of people
    6. Regenerate the club with great leadership
    7. Create a performance culture from top to bottom
    8. Build strong links and meet regularly with the Hibernian Family
    9. Communicate well, openly, honestly and frequently
    10. Deliver results on the park
    11. Deliver entertainment
    12. Ensure happy customers
    13. Rebuild the reputation of Hibs in the media
    14. Put energy and commitment into working with the HSA and LWT
    15. Deliver the 'Winning the Hibernian Way' Programme in full


    There are good candidates around (see link)
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...become-2049539
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    I would agree with your list of 15 points, but as far as I can see if Petrie's still around, whoever's appointed as Chief Executive under him will be working with his/her hands tied.

    And I don't think we should be appointing just another suit who happens to be a "good Hibbie". I'd rather have someone who's really effective regardless of his/her team allegiance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir View Post
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    those who hated pat better hope that their new chosen one succeeds.
    Who are these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir View Post
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    those who hated pat better hope that their new chosen one succeeds.
    There's an out though. Petrie will be to blame if the change didn't work because he didn't pick well again for whoever the successor is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Who are these people?
    There were lots of people saying during the week that they hated him or almost hated him. Lots of blanked out words used to describe him. I would hope people would only use those sorts of words to describe people that they hated.

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    There's an out though. Petrie will be to blame if the change didn't work because he didn't pick well again for whoever the successor is.

    That base is being particularly well covered.

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    I'm not sure now that RP needs to go. To be fair to him (& STF) which other club in the spfl paid £200k for a player this year (Celtic excepted)?

    Our board has backed managers with as much funding as is financially viable for the club to sustain. Is it then their fault that the football manager used it to sign a bit of a dud (at present?)

    Short of a real sugar daddy coming in who genuinely has bottomless pockets what more can we expect?

    Do we seriously want to follow the hearts business model for success? I hope not.

    The only other thing that makes me think a change would be good is the philosophy that it may bring a breath of fresh air but that person would have to be as astute a business man as RP with a massive knowledge of football and I suspect people like that are pretty rare.

    Rod maybe isn't ideal but he's still the best option at this time (IMO).

    We have an infrastructure and stable financial base that is the envy of nearly all other Scottish clubs and I suspect many others south of the border also.

    IF & it's a big IF the chairman and board get the next appointment right and that man brings the right coaching and scouting network with him I firmly believe that Pat has left that man with a squad and foundation that will allow him to propel us back to the top end of the league this season. Maybe I'm just an optimist now that change is coming but that's how I see it.

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    And I don't think we should be appointing just another suit who happens to be a "good Hibbie". I'd rather have someone who's really effective regardless of his/her team allegiance.
    Do you know who it is Doddie?...my mentioning of his team was just an aside

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    Presumably Petrie would appoint a successor and if it didnt work out he would get pelters? Maybe we could get the LWT Team on the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74 View Post
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    There were lots of people saying during the week that they hated him or almost hated him. Lots of blanked out words used to describe him. I would hope people would only use those sorts of words to describe people that they hated.
    Really, i never saw them? I thought he was a crap manager, one who's virtually been canonized because HE realised he'd failed then spoke well in his resignation speach.

    I dont hate him, i personally thought he spoke well at times during his reign, but he is ultimately judged on how his team plays and results.

    I also dont know anyone who hates him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Really, i never saw them? I thought he was a crap manager, one who's virtually been canonized because HE realised he'd failed then spoke well in his resignation speach.

    I dont hate him, i personally thought he spoke well at times during his reign, but he is ultimately judged on how his team plays and results.

    I also dont know anyone who hates him.
    I would think that PF is the type of bloke who it's almost impossible to hate. Partly why he was given so much time I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir View Post
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    those who hated pat better hope that their new chosen one succeeds.
    Did anyone hate Pat?

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    Well, what I would like to think is that a new OWNER would be someone who is football orientated. Farmer saved the club but did it more for charitable reasons than wanting to own a successful football team. If we were a EPL club people would be queuing up to put offers in, what with our infrastructure and stadium. Even the squad is decent.

    A CHAIRMAN would have to have a football brain for me. This is why we should keep Rod on and employ a director of football instead of a whole new CEO.

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    There's an out though. Petrie will be to blame if the change didn't work because he didn't pick well again for whoever the successor is.
    Nah, it'll definitely be the fans' fault if the next manager is pish too.

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