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    Shocking Decisions in the ICT v Partick match

    Haven't seen this posted anywhere else, but these 2 decisions in the ICT game are really bad. Referee's get it tight but it's no wonder when they make howlers like these. 2 in the same match lost ICT the game!

    The first goal should have stood, ICT player clearly tells the linesman that the corner has been taken and they took an age to blow to disagree with them.



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    This one is just a stonewall penalty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bajillions View Post
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    Haven't seen this posted anywhere else, but these 2 decisions in the ICT game are really bad. Referee's get it tight but it's no wonder when they make howlers like these. 2 in the same match lost ICT the game!

    The first goal should have stood, ICT player clearly tells the linesman that the corner has been taken and they took an age to blow to disagree with them.

    i agree he did tell linesman he has took the corner, but why did the linesman tell the partick thistle player to get back the 10 yards if the corner had been taken, it looks like the linesman was in a flap and it took him a wee while to work out what had happened

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    Would be furious if it was us, but glad ICT lost tbh!

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    Does the ball not have to leave the arc?

    GGTTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs07p View Post
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    Does the ball not have to leave the arc?

    GGTTH
    It doesn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs07p View Post
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    Does the ball not have to leave the arc?

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    It doesn't
    You mean it doesn't HAVE to leave the arc?

    Or it doesn't leave the arc?

    Or should Noah have taken the corner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ****pile View Post
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    You mean it doesn't HAVE to leave the arc?

    Or it doesn't leave the arc?

    Or should Noah have taken the corner?
    that be yanuk noah

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    Anyway, it was Noah goal.

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    smacks of Butcher's "so-clever-think-out-of-the-box" tactics

    - just take the damn corner properly, might have scored..

    "I don't trust these spooky dooky b-st--ds" (Gene Hunt)

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    ICT were looking like challengers to Celtc so they had to be stopped

    I just think it's more evidence of the Kafflik conspiracy that the The Rangers fans have told us about for a year.

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    This one might be a little worse...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zA3BXy0Kws

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    You mean it doesn't HAVE to leave the arc?

    Or it doesn't leave the arc?

    Or should Noah have taken the corner?
    It doesn't have to leave the arc.

    As soon as the ball is touched by the player taking the corner, the ball is considered to be in play.

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    Pretty sure the ball needs to make one full revolution for it to be counted as taken, or move one ball diameter, its certainly the case for free kicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFCDaveA View Post
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    Pretty sure the ball needs to make one full revolution for it to be counted as taken, or move one ball diameter, its certainly the case for free kicks.
    Was listening to BBC Sportsound tonight and there were mixed views on this incident. They also went onto say every time Stokes took a corner on Saturday, he took a touch in the arc before taking the corner. They said in that case it should have been a free kick to Hibs

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFCDaveA View Post
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    Pretty sure the ball needs to make one full revolution for it to be counted as taken, or move one ball diameter, its certainly the case for free kicks.
    Don't think it's the case for either a corner or a free kick.

    Just been reading the laws of the game on the FIFA website and it makes no mention of how far the ball has to move for it to be considered in play. It just has to move and once it has moved, the player who has touched the ball cannot touch it again until it has touched another player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee View Post
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    Don't think it's the case for either a corner or a free kick.

    Just been reading the laws of the game on the FIFA website and it makes no mention of how far the ball has to move for it to be considered in play. It just has to move and once it has moved, the player who has touched the ball cannot touch it again until it has touched another player.
    Definately the case for free kicks.

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    Crafty move by ICT but shirley not in the spirit of the game.
    Ungentlemanly conduct, IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumner View Post
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    smacks of Butcher's "so-clever-think-out-of-the-box" tactics

    - just take the damn corner properly, might have scored..

    "I don't trust these spooky dooky b-st--ds" (Gene Hunt)

    this

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    I remember when i played juvenile football. We were a very good team and a fair few went on to sign deals at various clubs with a few making it into the lower leagues. We were really disliked and seen as a bunch of dicks, we absolutely were.

    Anyway we used to take a very similar corner, it generally confused referees so much that if the other team spotted what had happened and made a move to play the ball, our player would just pick the ball up and go to place it again and look confused. Worked almost everytime.

    No wonder no one liked us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFCDaveA View Post
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    Definately the case for free kicks.
    But not for corner kicks:

    Rule 17 - The Corner Kick
    Procedure
    - The ball must be placed inside the corner arc nearest to the point where the ball crossed the goal line
    - The corner flagpost must not be moved
    - Opponents must remain at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the corner arc until the ball is in play
    - The ball must be kicked by a player of the attacking team
    - The ball is in play when it is kicked and moves
    - The kicker must not play the ball again until it has touched another player

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFCDaveA View Post
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    Definately the case for free kicks.
    Is it different rules for certain countries?

    I couldn't see anything on FIFA's "Laws of the game" article about that.

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    I could be wrong but I don't think it's for the ICT player to tell the officials when a set piece has been taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalkirkHibee View Post
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    Is it different rules for certain countries?

    I couldn't see anything on FIFA's "Laws of the game" article about that.
    The law was changed about 15 years ago I believe. Prior to this, to be in play from any restart, the ball had to travel the distance of it's circumference. Now the rule is that it just has to "move" and for a centre "move forward".

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    ICT got what they deserved. Serves them right for trying to be clever.

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    Was this not the same referee who failed to spot that Griffith's free kick had crossed Heart's goal-line by about two yards?

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    My take on this is that it's ungentlemanly conduct......... It's not in the spirit of the game.

    Remember years ago when players would take a throw-in, but would throw it against the opponents back and then take the return......... ungentlemanly conduct, but was it against the laws of the game! NO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I remember when i played juvenile football. We were a very good team and a fair few went on to sign deals at various clubs with a few making it into the lower leagues. We were really disliked and seen as a bunch of dicks, we absolutely were.

    Anyway we used to take a very similar corner, it generally confused referees so much that if the other team spotted what had happened and made a move to play the ball, our player would just pick the ball up and go to place it again and look confused. Worked almost everytime.

    No wonder no one liked us.
    We used to do one like the Inverness attempt aswell. Someone would touch it, somebody else would tell the second person who went over to take it to "take it from the other side" and they'd walk through the box and tap it in. We were also hated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    We used to do one like the Inverness attempt aswell. Someone would touch it, somebody else would tell the second person who went over to take it to "take it from the other side" and they'd walk through the box and tap it in. We were also hated!
    Are/were you allowed to decide which side of the pitch to take a corner from?

    I know they now allow goalies to choose which side to take a goal kick from but haven't seen that happen for a corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Are/were you allowed to decide which side of the pitch to take a corner from? I know they now allow goalies to choose which side to take a goal kick from but haven't seen that happen for a corner.
    No the corner must be taken from the side the ball went out of play. The referee clearly instructs which side he believes that to be.

    In this case as the linesman has told the Patrick player to move back the required distance it's clear he's officiating from the perspective the corner has not been taken. It is only fair then to bring play back.

    Agree that it took a while for the decision to be made but in the end I think it was the correct one.

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