New crowd trouble trend at football matches?

[Keith_M]

I was just reading that there was some trouble at the Preston Athletic v Queens Park game at the weekend. On this ocassion, it amounted to a large number of local youths throwing smoke bombs onto the pitch and then having a pitch invasion. The players had to be taken off the field until police restored order.

Add this to the recent Celtic/The Rangers youth cup tie, the disruption at the juniors game at the weekend and recents incidents at Hibs, Hearts, Motherwell, etc, does anyone think this is the beginning of a new trend of bother at matches or is it just some isolated incidents that will come to nothing?


To me, it appears to be youths trying to imitate what they have seen on the continent, with flares, smoke bombs etc, and maybe wishing to have some notoriety of their own. As I said, it may be a storm in a teacup but the situation in many countries where Ultras and the like are now well established is actually getting out of hand. I'd hate to see it going this way in Scotland.

[ZS DOOM]

Majority of the folk causing trouble at the preston game were hibs fans. Embarrassing

[Viva_Palmeiras]

We shouldn't become complacent but I'd hope this was just an isolated incident.

Just because use it may be easier to execute than at a typically policed match I think the chances of being caught are probably a bit higher esp if censure of the clubs are such that the regulars identify those responsible for fear of further damage to the club.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Majority of the folk causing trouble at the preston game were hibs fans. Embarrassing

I presume you'll be letting the officials and EEN know then?

[ZS DOOM]

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I presume you'll be letting the officials and EEN know then?

Yeah. Sold the story to the paper for a couple of quid and a chomp

[Keith_M]

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Majority of the folk causing trouble at the preston game were hibs fans. Embarrassing

Just out of interest, how do you know?

[ZS DOOM]

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Just out of interest, how do you know?

Because wee laddies these days cant help but brag about their antics on social networks

[Keith_M]

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Because wee laddies these days cant help but brag about their antics on social networks

OK, cheers.

[B.H.F.C]

Folk going on the pitch etc shouldn't happen. At the Preston game I'd imagine it was just all young laddies all tanked up that never actually go to Preston games.

The other side of things just opens up the whole flare debate again. Some folk don't mind them and some do. Personally they don't bother me but I could see why other folk would be against them.

The OP is right, I think it's just folk trying to copy the ultra scene from abroad. Atmosphere is renowned as being better overseas, which it is in my experience. I think people want to replicate some of that here instead of sitting in our soulless stadiums. That doesn't go for the Preston game, I mean what the likes of the Motherwell fans do and what we frequently see at away games.

[Centre Hawf]

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Folk going on the pitch etc shouldn't happen. At the Preston game I'd imagine it was just all young laddies all tanked up that never actually go to Preston games.

You'd be surprised.

[Geo_1875]

Watched an amateur cup game on Saturday and young Hibs fans were at it with the smoke bombs. I blame FIFA and EUFA. Weekend Internationals and the domestic breaks they cause have no place in football.

[Brightside]

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You'd be surprised.

I was there... its was daft wee ladies. The oldest would have been 16 if yer lucky. There was really nothing to it and no need for the game to be stopped at anytime. They were about 20 yds from the Queens fans and didnt try to start any trouble. Just daft banter from silly wee boys. Also the Queens fans ran on the field when they scored...and they were in the 30s!

Oh and they are not Preston fans according to the locals that watch the team every week. David Gold played for Queens btw and was probably the best player on the park.

[paul_hfc3]

My dad said he was at a game and in the stand where Celtic fans chunted tear gas at hibs fans at Easter Road. I can't remember when he said it happened.

[Peevemor]

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My dad said he was at a game and in the stand where Celtic fans chunted tear gas at hibs fans at Easter Road. I can't remember when he said it happened.

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?1...at-Easter-Road

[Dashing Bob S]

I think we should be overreacting to those incidents with tougher laws, more draconian policing and sentencing, tighter security measures, and the much higher taxes that follow this privilege of living in a police state.

[joe breezy]

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I think we should be overreacting to those incidents with tougher laws, more draconian policing and sentencing, tighter security measures, and the much higher taxes that follow this privilege of living in a police state.

Thankfully that's already happening Bob

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[brianmc]

One of the culprits has just been jailed for 140 days according to Police Scotland's twitter feed :0

[CB_NO3]

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One of the culprits has just been jailed for 140 days according to Police Scotland's twitter feed :0

Took them a while but am glad they got they dirty Celtic fans eventually ;-)

[Keith_M]

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I was there... its was daft wee ladies. The oldest would have been 16 if yer lucky.

"Steven Moffat, aged 21, from Prestonpans, pleaded guilty to breaking the peace, resisting arrest and drinking in public.
Two other men, aged 21 and 17, have been charged in relation to other incidents associated with the match at Pennypit."

Evening News

[Killiehibbie]

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"Steven Moffat, aged 21, from Prestonpans, pleaded guilty to breaking the peace, resisting arrest and drinking in public.
Two other men, aged 21 and 17, have been charged in relation to other incidents associated with the match at Pennypit."

Evening News

Good reporting

The match referee temporarily abandoned the game

[Keith_M]

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Good reporting

The match referee temporarily abandoned the game

'Breaking the peace'

Good old Evening News.

[hibbysam]

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"Steven Moffat, aged 21, from Prestonpans, pleaded guilty to breaking the peace, resisting arrest and drinking in public.
Two other men, aged 21 and 17, have been charged in relation to other incidents associated with the match at Pennypit."

Evening News

Those were nothing to do with the young lads at the end of the pitch though.. Totally different incidents, these three are the dafties o the town looking to cause trouble, the 50 or so youngsters were aged between 12 and 16 and there was no need at all for the game to be stopped, nor for the overreacting of the media!!

[Brightside]

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Those were nothing to do with the young lads at the end of the pitch though.. Totally different incidents, these three are the dafties o the town looking to cause trouble, the 50 or so youngsters were aged between 12 and 16 and there was no need at all for the game to be stopped, nor for the overreacting of the media!!

Exactly... some other people ran on to the pitch at the end to have a go at the ref...I'm assuming it was them.

[Argylehibby]

Incredible reporting. "The match referee temporarily abandoned the game after a group of 10 fans invaded the pitch at half time" Why would a game be stopped for something that happened at half time?? The game was stopped when Preston scored 5 minutes into the 2nd half and it wasn't the invasion of the 10 x 10 year olds that caused the ref to call a halt it either. It was the adult Muppets that were ushered from the ground for the fireworks / smoke bombs they threw.

[.Sean.]

Imagine letting off a smokebomb and having a sly bevvy at a Juniors park during a huge game in your hometown. Disgusting, hang them.

[McLeod1875]

The 'incidents' on Saturday were totally blown out the water, just a group of young laddies having a laugh at a football game.

Those arrests were nout to do with the group of young ones.

The 'pitch invasion' was about 15 young lads running about the 18 yard box having a laugh, one even ran up to the goalie for a bit banter and he laughed it off. No need for the game to be stopped at any time! It was the police that walked on to the park and forced the ref to stop the game so they could escort the 'hooligans' out.

Probably the best atmosphere a Preston game has ever seen and all the locals/officials do is moan...

[Brightside]

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The 'incidents' on Saturday were totally blown out the water, just a group of young laddies having a laugh at a football game.

Those arrests were nout to do with the group of young ones.

The 'pitch invasion' was about 15 young lads running about the 18 yard box having a laugh, one even ran up to the goalie for a bit banter and he laughed it off. No need for the game to be stopped at any time! It was the police that walked on to the park and forced the ref to stop the game so they could escort the 'hooligans' out.

Probably the best atmosphere a Preston game has ever seen and all the locals/officials do is moan...

Just a minor point. It was the ref that stopped the game and asked the Preston official to go and get the Police... Up and till that point it was all under control.

[Hibby Cam]

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Just a minor point. It was the ref that stopped the game and asked the Preston official to go and get the Police... Up and till that point it was all under control.

100% correct, some of the flares/bangers were thrown from the house behind the goals where the young ones were congregated, once the young ones were ejected the trouble stopped, except for the flare thrown over the wall in the second half, one of those involved was arrested and quickly grassed up his other mates.

I feel sorry for the club who will possibly be hit with large fines eliminating any revenue made as result of having such a glamour tie on their own patch

[fatbloke]

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Because wee laddies these days cant help but brag about their antics on social networks

Lots o wee laddies daein the bragging werny there. It was like every Celtic fan in the world claimed they were at Seville. At Pennypit on Saturday every wee daftie claimed to have been there, I was speaking to some in Port Seton on Saturday night and I know they were not there because I was I was it was nothing more than daft wee eejits being daft wee eejits. I must point out I was well behaved.

Funniest thing of the day was - Panners etc singing - Oh Prestonpans is wonderful Oh Prestonpans is wonderful it's full of smackheids and junkies Oh Prestonpans is wonderful. Followed seconds later by a chorus of You are a weegie a smelly weegie...... absolutely priceless.

[UltrasHibernian]

You'd get none of this in Tranent, moan the belters.

on serious notes 140 days in jail for next to nothing, and boys supporting there local team for the day whilst hibs/hearts or whatever old firm they support arnt playing. Bevvy with your pals and a wee singsong is how football should be.