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    I don't know what's more depressing!

    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.

    Yesterday was frustrating but the players don't deserve the abuse they're taking from some on here. It's probably hard enough to settle into a new club without being slated for everything you do on and off the park. Talk about piling the pressure on!

    People forget that last season we struggled to even compete with the likes of Ross County (who are not a bad side by the way)

    We definitely need things to click in attack soon but we've more chance of getting there soon if we just give it a rest with the negativity. It's probably no coincidence that our only victory so far has come away from home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenj.=] View Post
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    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.

    Yesterday was frustrating but the players don't deserve the abuse they're taking from some on here. It's probably hard enough to settle into a new club without being slated for everything you do on and off the park. Talk about piling the pressure on!

    People forget that last season we struggled to even compete with the likes of Ross County (who are not a bad side by the way)

    We definitely need things to click in attack soon but we've more chance of getting there soon if we just give it a rest with the negativity. It's probably no coincidence that our only victory so far has come away from home.
    Are you suggesting we just need to be a little more patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Are you suggesting we just need to be a little more patient.
    Nah I'm suggesting if you've not got anything positive to say don't say anything at all. Bad enough being frustrated for 90 mins yesterday without coming on here and reading more frustrating guff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenj.=] View Post
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    Nah I'm suggesting if you've not got anything positive to say don't say anything at all. Bad enough being frustrated for 90 mins yesterday without coming on here and reading more frustrating guff.
    So let me get this right, you don't want fans to post their thoughts on a message board unless they are positive ones.

    What exactly were you expecting to read when you logged on here today?

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    Are you suggesting we just need to be a little more patient.
    I think he's just suggesting that 9000 people barraging someone with abuse doesn't improve their performance.

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    I think he's just suggesting that 9000 people barraging someone with abuse doesn't improve their performance.
    No he's not, this is the first paragraph of his original post. (I don't know what's more depressing!
    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.)

    What did he expect when logging on here today, did he think everything would be all hunky dory, and folk would be pleased with whats going on at easter road?

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    So the OP is depressed watching Hibs but expects this board to be positive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    No he's not, this is the first paragraph of his original post. (I don't know what's more depressing!
    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.)

    What did he expect when logging on here today, did he think everything would be all hunky dory, and folk would be pleased with whats going on at easter road?
    Ok then I'll suggest it

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    Its depressing reading the threads slagging individual players. Not because im worried the poor wee lambs will be upset, but because its wrongheaded and stupid. Our players are good enough, but they are not being deployed properly. Slagging Taiwo because he's not Busquets is just as daft as blaming Fenlons lack of a substitution on forgetting his new signings name, both of which ive read on here lately...

    To slip into cooking metaphor, the problem with us is the Ingredients are fine but the recipe's not up to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenj.=] View Post
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    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.

    Yesterday was frustrating but the players don't deserve the abuse they're taking from some on here. It's probably hard enough to settle into a new club without being slated for everything you do on and off the park. Talk about piling the pressure on!

    People forget that last season we struggled to even compete with the likes of Ross County (who are not a bad side by the way)

    We definitely need things to click in attack soon but we've more chance of getting there soon if we just give it a rest with the negativity. It's probably no coincidence that our only victory so far has come away from home.
    Totally agree. Three separate threads on individual players after yesterday - two who are summer signings. One positive i suppose is theres not a louis stevenson thread running for a change.

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    No he's not, this is the first paragraph of his original post. (I don't know what's more depressing!
    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.)

    What did he expect when logging on here today, did he think everything would be all hunky dory, and folk would be pleased with whats going on at easter road?
    To be honest I'm still just a state of shock from my own experience yesterday which you can read in another post

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisersmith View Post
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    I think he's just suggesting that 9000 people barraging someone with abuse doesn't improve their performance.
    This was not the case yesterday I can guarantee that. STOP BLAMING THE FANS FFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaisersmith View Post
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    Ok then I'll suggest it
    And i will agree, the support while at the game should try their hardest to get behind the team during the games. Also its funny how you suggest the 9000 shouldn't be barraging the team with abuse, i think you will get your wish, it will probably only be 8000 then 6000 very soon with this man in control.

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    well i think the heff deserved a boooing, 7 mins on the park and not even a goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    No he's not, this is the first paragraph of his original post. (I don't know what's more depressing!
    Watching hibs struggle to score at home or coming on here and reading negative thread after negative thread about everyone and everything.)

    What did he expect when logging on here today, did he think everything would be all hunky dory, and folk would be pleased with whats going on at easter road?
    No BH. That is exactly what I'm saying. And a poster below has summed up nicely what I'm saying too.

    People should express their thoughts but some of the utter guff I've read on here is stupid. Like folk slagging PF for his interview when he's pretty much summed up exactly what I watched yesterday. Lots of effort and no cutting edge or fluency.

    Some of the abuse being dished out to our players is out of order as well.

    You'd think we were gubbed by 4 goals yesterday by the tone of this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Its depressing reading the threads slagging individual players. Not because im worried the poor wee lambs will be upset, but because its wrongheaded and stupid. Our players are good enough, but they are not being deployed properly. Slagging Taiwo because he's not Busquets is just as daft as blaming Fenlons lack of a substitution on forgetting his new signings name, both of which ive read on here lately...

    To slip into cooking metaphor, the problem with us is the Ingredients are fine but the recipe's not up to much.
    I think the ingredients are fine, as is the recipe- it's the chef that needs sacking, because he doesn't know how to use those ingredients.
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      This was not the case yesterday I can guarantee that. STOP BLAMING THE FANS FFS


    Im not blaming fans, however I don't think you need to be a mensa member to work out that getting abused constantly doesn't help your performance. Perhaps you could go about your work fine getting abused but I certainly couldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    And i will agree, the support while at the game should try their hardest to get behind the team during the games. Also its funny how you suggest the 9000 shouldn't be barraging the team with abuse, i think you will get your wish, it will probably only be 8000 then 6000 very soon with this man in control.
    Based on what I could hear, the fans' support for the team yesterday was very decent, even up to late on in the game.

    I agree that it's a nonsense to have a go at fans who are rightly sick fed up with it all. As you say, soon there won't be many fans left.
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    Whether its negative or positive it doesn't seem to make a difference.

    When the players are booed, heckled a d abused it doesn't seem to make them more determined to win the crowd back. When the crowd turn up, sing and are supportive they are equally as bad.

    The state we are in isn't connected to us being negative in any way. It's down to the players and manager to make us positive.

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    Whether its negative or positive it doesn't seem to make a difference.

    When the players are booed, heckled a d abused it doesn't seem to make them more determined to win the crowd back. When the crowd turn up, sing and are supportive they are equally as bad.

    The state we are in isn't connected to us being negative in any way. It's down to the players and manager to make us positive.
    This. Absolutely spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Green Goblin View Post
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    I think the ingredients are fine, as is the recipe- it's the chef that needs sacking, because he doesn't know how to use those ingredients.
    I'm just fed up of people abusing players because they're not happy with Fenlon. It's not the players that we need to change it's either Fenlon or the way he approaches games that needs to change.

    There's a weekly thread on the likes of OTJ, Lewis and Vine and maybe just maybe they'll come good eventually but it won't happen if they're slated at every hurdle by fans who are frustrated with the "chef".

    Vine got booed and cheered off in his 2nd game at Easter Road the other week as he got subbed.

    The negativity on this board spreads like the plague to stands and channels through to the players who are unsurprisingly low in confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Whether its negative or positive it doesn't seem to make a difference.

    When the players are booed, heckled a d abused it doesn't seem to make them more determined to win the crowd back. When the crowd turn up, sing and are supportive they are equally as bad.

    The state we are in isn't connected to us being negative in any way. It's down to the players and manager to make us positive.
    The state we are in isn't connected to us being negative in any way. It's down to the players and manager to make us positive.[/QUOTE]
    You think that the negativity surrounding Hibs at the moment - whether it be on this forum, the press in general or booing of players doesn't have any effect on the team whatsoever? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenj.=] View Post
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    I'm just fed up of people abusing players because they're not happy with Fenlon. It's not the players that we need to change it's either Fenlon or the way he approaches games that needs to change.

    There's a weekly thread on the likes of OTJ, Lewis and Vine and maybe just maybe they'll come good eventually but it won't happen if they're slated at every hurdle by fans who are frustrated with the "chef".

    Vine got booed and cheered off in his 2nd game at Easter Road the other week as he got subbed.

    The negativity on this board spreads like the plague to stands and channels through to the players who are unsurprisingly low in confidence.
    So its Hibs.nets fault now, this should be added to the excuse thread its a belter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    So its Hibs.nets fault now, this should be added to the excuse thread its a belter.
    Its in the sun tomorrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    So its Hibs.nets fault now, this should be added to the excuse thread its a belter.
    Definitely not the main issue but it certainly doesn't help. Players who've left us recently (and seem to be doing well) have said as much in the press so there must be something in it.

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    You know what is depressing? Logging on here and seeing a group of the same fans fighting amongst themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenj.=] View Post
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    Definitely not the main issue but it certainly doesn't help. Players who've left us recently (and seem to be doing well) have said as much in the press so there must be something in it.
    We have been excellent in the big games for a long time now and the team has consistently failed to turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Said Frank View Post
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    We have been excellent in the big games for a long time now and the team has consistently failed to turn up.
    Probably in shock as to where those fans are every week. Too used to the morgue

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    The players are getting paid a fortune each week to perform, they're not performing, nowhere near it...

    Any other line of work they'd be punted/erses hung oot to dry, why should these over paid primadonnas be any different?!

    Granted, I don't think the players are 100% to blame, 5% players 95% Fenlon, who is utterly ****ing clueless by the way

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    The state we are in isn't connected to us being negative in any way. It's down to the players and manager to make us positive.
    You think that the negativity surrounding Hibs at the moment - whether it be on this forum, the press in general or booing of players doesn't have any effect on the team whatsoever? Seriously?[/QUOTE]

    The point I'm making is more that the negativity is because of them. One win at home in the league this calendar year. Malmo. Lack of entertainment. How much of a difference would it make to all that if we clapped our hands and smiled at Easter Road a bit more? Or if the media said some nice things about us?

    As I said in my original post we've tried going down the positive route when we've turned up in numbers. And really, it didn't make much difference. The bottom line is that it is down to the team to get us excited and create some positive headlines.

    Just on another note I didn't actually think the crowd were too bad yesterday. There was frustration obviously but that's to be expected.

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