Yoevil v Birmingham madness last night.

[Hermit Crab]

@SkySports: Check out the controversy which marred Birmingham's Capital One Cup tie with Yeovil. Lee Clark not a happy bunny http://t.co/FnlWTYlZrO

[Phil D. Rolls]

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@SkySports: Check out the controversy which marred Birmingham's Capital One Cup tie with Yeovil. Lee Clark not a happy bunny http://t.co/FnlWTYlZrO

Utter nonsense from Birmingham. It was their player on the ground, might have been different if it was a Yeovil player.

It's for the ref to stop the game.

[Sergio sledge]

Birmingham winning 2-1, injury time, player goes down "injured" and Birmingham goalie kicks it out of play. Player then gets up, doesn't leave the field, gets no treatment. IMHO Yeovil were perfectly within their rights to play on. Birmingham shouldn't have stopped playing.

The sooner this ridiculous habit, of putting the ball out for injuries and teams expecting to get the ball straight back, ends the better. If the referee stops the play then that's different but if a player is down play should go on and the physio should be allowed on, like in rugby.

[Scouse Hibee]

Yoevil later allowed Birmingham to score an unchallenged goal!

[scuttle]

Birmingham players must take some of the blame for not responding to the throw in in the first place. These things are always going to happen ,Yeovil didnt break any laws of the game. a bit unsavery all the same

[easty]

I think Yeovil were quite right to play on, if there is an obvious serious injury then the ref should stop the game, if not then get on with things. If I was Gary Johnson I wouldn't have let Birmingham score in extra time either, just makes a nonsense of the game.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Disagree totally with the views on this thread. I can't believe them actually. The ball should've been played back to the Birmingham keeper. Simple as that

[Gus]

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Disagree totally with the views on this thread. I can't believe them actually. The ball should've been played back to the Birmingham keeper. Simple as that

Why tho?

[Billychaotic182]

It's poor sportsmanship but you can't expect anything in this game. Scott Brown is one for not giving the ball back.

[Gatecrasher]

Whilst I agree the keeper should never have kicked it out in the first place, there is a thing called sportsmanship.

[Sweet Left Peg]

I have been saying for years that football should follow rugby's lead on this kind of thing. If there is a player down, the game should carry on and the injured player can receive treatment from the physio. This would stop the farce that is players staying down, getting the game stopped, coming straight back on, frustrating fans, players, managers etc. The ref could always stop the game if he felt there was a danger to the player, but in general the flow of the game would continue which is what we want to see. After all, what player is going to feign injury, take himself out of the game and put his team at a disadvantage?

[JohnStephens91]

When the Webster goal went in to make it 2-2 that forced extra-time, then Yeovil went 3-2 up. It was only after this that Gary Johnson told his players to stand down and then Novak made it 3-3, that was 15 minutes after the original incident. Why then did he grow a conscience and let his side surrender the lead? I certainly wouldn't have let that happen, the Birmingham player looked like he was time wasting.

[JohnStephens91]

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It's poor sportsmanship but you can't expect anything in this game. Scott Brown is one for not giving the ball back.

Leigh Griffiths has previous for it too

[hfc rd]

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I have been saying for years that football should follow rugby's lead on this kind of thing. If there is a player down, the game should carry on and the injured player can receive treatment from the physio. This would stop the farce that is players staying down, getting the game stopped, coming straight back on, frustrating fans, players, managers etc. The ref could always stop the game if he felt there was a danger to the player, but in general the flow of the game would continue which is what we want to see. After all, what player is going to feign injury, take himself out of the game and put his team at a disadvantage?

Totally agree with this.

[Gus]

Sportsmanship.......birmingham put it out as one of their players was down. So if Yeovil played it bak to them and birmingham went straight up and scored would that be unsporting?

[H18sry]

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vide...s-by-decisions

[Dunderhall]

Matty Jack doesn't see where the issue is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBQl...e_gdata_player

[Gus Fring]

The first goal is just tough luck, bad sportmanship but allowed in the rules.

The second goal in that clip is more likely to come under scrutiny. That could be considered akin to match fixing.

[Caversham Green]

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When the Webster goal went in to make it 2-2 that forced extra-time, then Yeovil went 3-2 up. It was only after this that Gary Johnson told his players to stand down and then Novak made it 3-3, that was 15 minutes after the original incident. Why then did he grow a conscience and let his side surrender the lead? I certainly wouldn't have let that happen, the Birmingham player looked like he was time wasting.

Because he had a bet on 3-3 after extra time?

I don't like the giving the ball back thing because it can be abused, as could be the case here. I'm also uncomfortable with the idea of a team letting the opposition score unchallenged - it's effectively score or match fixing. Play to the rules of the game afaic.

[truehibernian]

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Because he had a bet on 3-3 after extra time?

I don't like the giving the ball back thing because it can be abused, as could be the case here. I'm also uncomfortable with the idea of a team letting the opposition score unchallenged - it's effectively score or match fixing. Play to the rules of the game afaic.

It would be very very interesting if someone had a 10 game accumulator (waiting on that 'result') or a correct score double, what Messrs William Hill et al would do CG - it opens up a world of legal ramifications too in my opinion. Has anyone had stakes returned on here when there has been similar ? I wonder if there would be grounds for a legal challenge too

Saying that, motor sport is getting that way too - team orders put me off having a flutter on that sport.

[WestEndHibee]

I think that yeovil were perfectly within their rights in this particular case. The number of times that the winning teams players will drop down towards the end of the game is obscene. It might have been that this guy was injured but there are so many feigning injury these days that it can't be trusted any more. These players feigning injury are abusing sportsmanship and yet there's not much made of them. Putting the ball out needs to be gotten rid of. The ref can stop the game if its serious otherwise play on.

[frazeHFC]

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Matty Jack doesn't see where the issue is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBQl...e_gdata_player

Love when the penalty goes in, it's almost more like a loud cry of joy from the crowd than a cheer.

Quite right though, sick of players going down easily to waste time. If a player is hurt genuinely then fair play give them it back, but not over something like that. I remember Leigh last year and he was 100% right to play on as the opposition player had nothing wrong with him.

[Peevemor]

Things were much simpler when play would only be stopped for a head knock - but not always! I remember being at Ibrox when Goram (still playing for us) was lying unconscious in his box and the ref allowed play to continue until the huns scored.

[Posh Swanny]

On the subject of sportsmanship being abused - see also:

The game is stopped with one team in space in the attacking quarter of the pitch. At the resulting drop ball or throw-in, the opposition "sportingly" give the ball back by punting it to the goalie at the other end of the pitch - or even worse, out for a goal-kick. A Posh player nearly got into a fight with an opposing player last year because he refused his gracious offer and insisted on standing in place to contest the drop-ball, which just happened to be taking place on the edge of their penalty area. The other bloke banged on about it for about two minutes - he just could not believe that his sporting offer was being disgracefully snubbed by our skipper.

[frazeHFC]

Anyone seen Lee Clarks interview with the one word answers? The Yeovil manager is defending his teams decision to play on and score, despite them having then given Birmingham a goal, a bit odd. And the winning penalty is a funny one, keeper saves it so the Yeovil fans go wild, then it comes back down and drops in.

[Phil MaGlass]

From what I remember was´nt it Cowdenbeath who sent out a letter to all clubs stating they would not kick the ball out if a player was injured and a ball would not be returned to the opposition if kicked out? Quite right, too many players going down and trying to kill/slow the game down.

[BonnieFitbaTeam]

My take on it is that if you kick the ball out because one of your own players is injured then you don't get the ball back (probably time-wasting anyway!). If you play it out because one of your opponents is injured then that actually is a sporting thing to do. Your sportmanship should be rewarded by the ball being returned to you.

Simples

[clerriehibs]

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Whilst I agree the keeper should never have kicked it out in the first place, there is a thing called sportsmanship.

Very true, which birmingham weren't adhering to, they were wasting time and so cheating.

Matty Jack v Dundee United; they were cheating by wasting time, he was having none of it.
The arabs got their just deserts.

[wearethehibs]

For anyone saying Yeovil did the right thing.... Would you be saying that if Hearts done that to us?

No they'd be the **** of the earth (even more so)

Just glad justice was done in the shoot out, Birmingham players celebrating in front of the Yeovil fans was a nice bonus!

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I have been saying for years that football should follow rugby's lead on this kind of thing. If there is a player down, the game should carry on and the injured player can receive treatment from the physio. This would stop the farce that is players staying down, getting the game stopped, coming straight back on, frustrating fans, players, managers etc. The ref could always stop the game if he felt there was a danger to the player, but in general the flow of the game would continue which is what we want to see. After all, what player is going to feign injury, take himself out of the game and put his team at a disadvantage?

Absolutely.