Player ratings

[hibsbollah]

A draw would have been a fair result I thought. We had some decent individual performances, but tactically it seemed to be a bit of a mess, a 451 with Craig and Harris taking turns supporting the lone striker? I've supported the manager for a long time, but In a results driven business Fenlon must be close to the exit now.

Williams 7 tremendous double save second half. Not much else to do otherwise. No chance for the goal.

Stevenson 7 much better back on the left.
Hanlon 5
Nelson 6 some great blocks, won loads in the air but distribution very poor and looks s-l-o-w.
Mullen 5

Harris 4 just couldn't beat his man today.
Jones 6
Thomson 9 It might seem excessive but I can't give him less than 9. Outstanding in defence and attack. Every pass was on the money. Why Fenlon brought him off I can only guess.
Robertson 7 Great volley, very unlucky not to score and played well throughout.
Craig 7 work rate and delivery very good.

Collins 5 completely isolated. Must be wondering where the support was coming from.

[Beefster]

Williams - 7

Mullen - 5
Nelson - 5
Hanlon - 5
Stevenson - 5

Harris - 4
Thomson - 7
Tudor-Jones - 3
Robertson - 6
Craig - 4

Collins - 6

[Pray4Marc]

Agree with the 3 for Jones. Contributed nothing. Was like playing with 10 men going forward. I can see why pat has wanted to keep it tight early on after Malmo. Need to play Vine and Collins up front.

[Pretty Boy]

Williams 7

Mullen 5
Nelson 6
Hanlon 5
Stevenson 6

Harris 4
Thomson 7
Jones 5
Robertson 6
Craig 4

Collins 6

[hibee_girl]

Williams 7 - good saves, some kicking a bit suspect

Mullen 6 - good at going forward, horrendously slow when defending
Nelson 6 - looked calm and assured before the goal
Hanlon 7 - looked much better without McPake beside him
Stevenson 7 - much better at left back

Craig 5 - didn't do a great deal
Robertson 6 - did ok, good volley for his effort at goal
Thomson 9 - he was head and shoulders above everyone on that pitch today
Jones 6 - did well
Harris 4 - not himself at all today

Collins 7 - impressed with him, he can hold it up very well, he's strong etc but he cannot do it all himself, he needs someone beside him.

[Hibs90]

Williams - 7

Mullen - 4 - Far too slow. Need a better right back asap.
Nelson - 5 - Couple of dodgy touches that on another day might have been punished.
Hanlon - 5 - Below average
Stevenson - 6 - Purely for effort

Harris - 3 - Was horrendous. Never done anything right. Needs dropped.
Thomson - 9 - Outstanding. Best player on the pitch.
Tudor-Jones - 4 - Should have been subbed.
Robertson - 7 - Better from, Robertson. Hope he can kick on from here.
Craig - 7 - Played well for me. Wasted out wide though.

Collins - 6 - No service. Needs another striker alongside. But played good considering.

Subs - 1
Fenlon - 0

[OrdHibby]

Williams 7 did what was asked of him
Mullen 5 ok going forward but like stevenson got caught out with balls over the top
Nelson 5 decent defending apart from the goal. Distribution poor at best.
Hanlon 6 decent defending
Stevenson 5 100% effort but to slow to make a pass
Craig 5 takes to long to make the pass slowing everything down
Robertson 7 best game for Hibs. Positive
Harris 4 worst game in a Hibs top. Having Stevenson on the left didn't help him
Thomson 8 that was a captains performance. Give him the armband back. Best player on the park
Collins 7 fairly impressed. Needs someone to play along side him though
OTJ 4 Didn't think he did much

[cloudy]

Where was Craig playing?

[dmc1875]

Williams- 7 Two great saves near the end before Motherwell scored.

Mullen- 5 Good going forward when he did but suspect at the back and caught out with long balls.

Nelson 5 Looks no nonsense but some wayward headers and lack of pace was exploited.

Hanlon 4 Poor, miskick nearly caused us a lot of problems and lack of cover left Nelson exposed with the two long balls.

Stevenson 5 Gives 100% but not great going forward. Did well with a tired McFadden throughout however.

Craig 5- Being used totally wrong. A good player thats going to waste away if he keeps getting shoved on the right wing!

Jones- 6 Nothing bad or good of note

Thomson 8 Best player on the park. Drove forward and was trying to get us going from the middle.

Harris 5- Poor until lst 5/10 minutes when he started to look better. Then got injured.

Robertson 7 Not a bad game good volley that nearly put us in front. Tried to drive forward when possible.

Collins 7- Chased everything and certainly looks a player who can hold the ball up and will get on the end of things. Shame the lack of service (that we all knew was going to be a problem) didnt help him at all.

Subs:

Handling- Offered nothing of note. Should have been Caldwel IMO
Stanton- Worked hard and looks like he's got some skill about him
Taiwo- Didn't really do anything

Fenlon, 1 - Buying good SPL players and turning them into huddies because you play them out of position. No tactics, no width, no pace. The fans can see the problems why cant you?

A performance of mediocrity pretty much across the board which is sadly not good enough.

[hibsbollah]

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Where was Craig playing?

RM, although he seemingly was taking turns with Harris to play up with Collins in a 442? Not sure if this was accident or design.

[OrdHibby]

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Williams- 7 Two great saves near the end before Motherwell scored.

Mullen- 5 Good going forward when he did but suspect at the back and caught out with long balls.

Nelson 5 Looks no nonsense but some wayward headers and lack of pace was exploited.

Hanlon 4 Poor, miskick nearly caused us a lot of problems and lack of cover left Nelson exposed with the two long balls.

Stevenson 5 Gives 100% but not great going forward. Did well with a tired McFadden throughout however.

Craig 5- Being used totally wrong. A good player thats going to waste away if he keeps getting shoved on the right wing!

Jones- 6 Nothing bad or good of note

Thomson 8 Best player on the park. Drove forward and was trying to get us going from the middle.

Harris 5- Poor until lst 5/10 minutes when he started to look better. Then got injured.

Robertson 7 Not a bad game good volley that nearly put us in front. Tried to drive forward when possible.

Collins 7- Chased everything and certainly looks a player who can hold the ball up and will get on the end of things. Shame the lack of service (that we all knew was going to be a problem) didnt help him at all.

Subs:

Handling- Offered nothing of note. Should have been Caldwel IMO
Stanton- Worked hard and looks like he's got some skill about him
Taiwo- Didn't really do anything

Fenlon, 1 - Buying good SPL players and turning them into huddies because you play them out of position. No tactics, no width, no pace. The fans can see the problems why cant you?

A performance of mediocrity pretty much across the board which is sadly not good enough.

utter pish. watch it again and you'll find mullen had to cover nelson because he was out of position for the goal. but hey it's paul's fault. Get of his back.

[Judas Iscariot]

6's & 7's for Stevenson!!?

Really?

No wonder so many folk have lost interest in Hibs if that performance constitutes a 7..

[pontius pilate]

Getting a bit concerned with some of the comments regarding Mullen and Harris granted they didn't have a great game but it looks to me as though we are rounding on the youngsters already give them a chance they won't play outstanding every week.

Williams 7 never really had a lot to do.

Mullen 5 not the greatest tracking back but seen enough going forward.

Nelson 6 great in the air but is slow

Hanlon 6 again slow on the distribution but stuck at it and looked confortable at times.

Stevenson 7 showed an eagerness to get forward and did do some good tracking back tried to link up with Harris on occasions.

Craig 7 played well and at least tried to get forward whenever possible.

Tudor-jones 5 not the greatest but put effort into trying to break up play.

Thomson 9 head and shoulders above everyone else broke up play tracked back and pushed forward not afraid to put in a tackle.

Robertson 7 put in a good shirt tries to break forward whenever possible unlucky with the injury.

Harris 4 never lived up to the standards he set for himself

Collins 7 decent debut held up play well had no support though.

Fenlon 3 poor negative tactics poor substitutions no fire in his belly and no drive or determination looks like a sackedan walking

[Latapy1911]

Williams 7

Mullen 4
Nelson 4
Hanlon 5
Stevenson 6

Harris 5
Thomson 7
Jones 6
Robertson 6
Craig 6

Collins 7

[dmc1875]

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utter pish. watch it again and you'll find mullen had to cover nelson because he was out of position for the goal. but hey it's paul's fault. Get of his back.

Or not. He got caught out for Suttons one on one as well...

Maybe watch it back again yourself it wasn't just Nelson, the two of them were at fault and Hanlon nowhere to be seen.

The whole defence was out of position

[OrdHibby]

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Or not. He got caught out for Suttons one on one as well...

Maybe watch it back again yourself it wasn't just Nelson, the two of them were at fault and Hanlon nowhere to be seen

Motherwell targeted the right hand side of the Hibs defence because of Nelsons lack of pace in the second half because they have a manager who knows a little about tactics. Hanlon was faultless in both incident you speak of. If anything the goalkeeper should have been out for the sutton chance but decided to stay. Pulled of a great save but they got a needless corner from it.

[down-the-slope]

wide differences in ratings which show that there is little concensus as to where the weaknesses lie.

[J-C]

Williams..7 2 decent saves

Mullen...5.5 decent going forward but caught out in defence at times but we knew that already
Nelson...5 good positioning and in the tackle stays on his feet, poor passing and very very slow
Hanlon... 6 did nowt much wrong, fairly decent
Stevenson...7 had McFadden in his pocket, looked to get forward when he could, needs to pick his passes better

Robertson...7 best game so far, loads of energy and when allowed to attack, looked dangerous
Jones... 3 waste of a signing, can't see why we have him as Taiwo is a far better player, bring back Claros please
Thomson...9 cracking game, from back to front, won nearly every challenge and distribution superb
Craig...6 needs to be played through the middle, he hasn't got the pace to be out wide
Harris..4 overdid it all too often, needs to do the simple things but do them well, when he did, he caused problems.

Collins...6 worked his socks of with almost zero support, will do ok for us.

[OrdHibby]

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wide differences in ratings which show that there is little concensus as to where the weaknesses lie.

the main weakness is the wee guy in the dugoot

[dmc1875]

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Motherwell targeted the right hand side of the Hibs defence because of Nelsons lack of pace in the second half because they have a manager who knows a little about tactics. Hanlon was faultless in both incident you speak of. If anything the goalkeeper should have been out for the sutton chance but decided to stay. Pulled of a great save but they got a needless corner from it.

Fair enough I just feel that after the couple of Williams saves the defence to a man got shaky and nervous. They targeted the long ball over Nelson/Mullen area. Maybe I will watch it again

It was a total 'meh' performance from Hibs in general. Nothing too bad, nothing too good. Therefore not good enough unless we want to trudge through the season with draws and narro defeats..

[churchie16]

Thomson head and shoulders above anyone else! The gap between the midfield and collins was shocking sometimes guy needs a help up there after a lot of hoof ball!

[R'Albin]

Williams 7 - Couple of good saves and was unlucky for the goal, he seemed to stumble.

Mullen 4 - Caught with his man behind him a number of times. Poor deliveries throughout.

Hanlon 6 - Was outpaced badly for the goal, other than that he was solid.

Nelson 7 - Distribution was crap but extremely solid IMO.

Stevenson 5 - He's not a full back. Attempted to make a few forward runs which all went badly. McFadden was kept quiet throughout though, which counts for something I guess.

Craig 4 - Really poor, but started on the wrong side. Fenlon should have switched the wingers at half time IMO.

Tudor Jones 3 - If he wasn't so tall I wouldn't have even noticed he was on the pitch.

Thomson 8 - Looks a class above at times. His passing was excellent and he was tracking a lot more than usual. MOTM

Robertson 7 - Really improved from when I last watched him. It's a shame he didn't make more forward runs, because the couple of times he did he looked dangerous.

Harris 4 - Worst game he's had in a Hibs shirt. It's a shame because he seemed to be coming into the game more nearer the end, but then got crocked immediately.

Collins 7 - Looks a player. Great hold up play throughout and worked his arse off. He looked so isolated at times it was scary, not that that's the fault of the players.

[Cameron1875]

Williams - 7

Mullen - 5
Nelson - 4
Hanlon - 4
Stevenson - 5

Harris - 3
Thomson - 7
Tudor-Jones - 3
Robertson - 5
Craig - 4

Collins - 5

[OrdHibby]

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Fair enough I just feel that after the couple of Williams saves the defence to a man got shaky and nervous. They targeted the long ball over Nelson/Mullen area. Maybe I will watch it again

It was a total 'meh' performance from Hibs in general. Nothing too bad, nothing too good. Therefore not good enough unless we want to trudge through the season with draws and narro defeats..

no tactics are the main problems. players need guidance and they aren't getting them from fenlon

[hibsbollah]

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6's & 7's for Stevenson!!?

Really?

No wonder so many folk have lost interest in Hibs if that performance constitutes a 7..

You're probably right. The fact I gave Lewis a 7 is the reason behind folk losing interest in Hibs

[21.05.2016]

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6's & 7's for Stevenson!!?

Really?

No wonder so many folk have lost interest in Hibs if that performance constitutes a 7..

Some slack passes from him but I thought he looked better going forward.


Thompson definitely man of the match for me, we looked at our most threatening going forward when he got the ball and went forward in the centre. I think that Collins looks like he could be a decent signing but just wasn't enough support for him today.

[neil7908]

I heard a couple guys leaving the game saying they felt we were unlucky and a draw would have been a fair result. Sorry but I cant buy that, Motherwell had the 2 best chances of the game just before they scored forcing Williams into a couple of great saves, their winner really didnt come out of nowhere.

Also, if you set a team out the way we did, you cant expect to win a football match, pure and simple. It was always going to be a case that a Motherwell goal would wreck our gameplan and teams that are set up to play for a draw inevitability come away with nothing.

In terms of individual scores:

Williams - 7 (kicking was a little suspect but pulled off 2 excellent stops and cant be faulted for their goal)

Mullen - 6 (thought he looked ok, a couple decent deliveries and didn't get much wrong but wasn't a stand out)
Nelson - 6 (solid but passing was really poor)
Hanlon - 6 (still not sure about him, doesn't fill me with confidence)
Stevenson - 7 (he's not great going forward but at least tried to get up and down the line and never let anyone past him at the back)

Craig - 5 (based on his displays last season we know he's a good player but its clear he is out of position and isn't able to influence games from out wide, not his fault but in the games he's played so far I've seen absolutely nothing. I suspect playing him centrally might help tho)
Tudor-Jones - 5 (anonymous)
Thomson - 8.5 (best player on the pitch, worked hard, tried to push forward and was always fighting to win the ball back. Best game in his second spell at the club)
Robertson - 8 (one of the few positives, tried his best to get forward and when he did get the ball in an advanced areas was one of the few players that played some intelligent football and looked dangerous. Very hopeful that he will keep on improving he more match sharpness he gets and can add some goals to the team)
Harris - 5 (poor by his standards, although I felt he has just gotten a little more into the game when he went off injured. Struggled to get into the game until that point and barely got past his man all day)

Collins - 5 (did nothing wrong and a bit like Craig, I think there is a player in there but very hard to tell as the ball was constantly blasted up to him with no support when he did win it. McManus looked very commanding against him and feel pretty gutted on missing out)

[OrdHibby]

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Williams 7 - Couple of good saves and was unlucky for the goal, he seemed to stumble.

Mullen 4 - Caught with his man behind him a number of times. Poor deliveries throughout.

Hanlon 6 - Was outpaced badly for the goal, other than that he was solid.

Nelson 7 - Distribution was crap but extremely solid IMO.

Stevenson 5 - He's not a full back. Attempted to make a few forward runs which all went badly. McFadden was kept quiet throughout though, which counts for something I guess.

Craig 4 - Really poor, but started on the wrong side. Fenlon should have switched the wingers at half time IMO.

Tudor Jones 3 - If he wasn't so tall I wouldn't have even noticed he was on the pitch.

Thomson 8 - Looks a class above at times. His passing was excellent and he was tracking a lot more than usual. MOTM

Robertson 7 - Really improved from when I last watched him. It's a shame he didn't make more forward runs, because the couple of times he did he looked dangerous.

Harris 4 - Worst game he's had in a Hibs shirt. It's a shame because he seemed to be coming into the game more nearer the end, but then got crocked immediately.

Collins 7 - Looks a player. Great hold up play throughout and worked his arse off. He looked so isolated at times it was scary, not that that's the fault of the players.

He was positioned to catch the striker offside but unfortunately Mullen and Nelson weren't. The guy was offside my a ba' hair but Mullen was sleeping and nelson was the wrong side of Hanlon. The boy had a head start on Hanlon because of this. Sometimes it isn't actually Hanlons fault. He's a good player and the fans should start getting behind him because he's had the misfortune in his career to play along side some truely awful players.

[Centre Hawf]

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wide differences in ratings which show that there is little concensus as to where the weaknesses lie.

Which surprises me because usually Hibs.net is full of upcoming Sir Alex' and Jose Mourinho's

[R'Albin]

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He was positioned to catch the striker offside but unfortunately Mullen and Nelson weren't. The guy was offside my a ba' hair but Mullen was sleeping and nelson was the wrong side of Hanlon. The boy had a head start on Hanlon because of this. Sometimes it isn't actually Hanlons fault. He's a good player and the fans should start getting behind him because he's had the misfortune in his career to play along side some truely awful players.

I actually agree that Hanlon is a decent SPL player. Anytime he's had a partner that's played well beside him, he's usually played pretty well (unfortunately that's not happened all that often!). I also agree with your analysis of the goal. One thing though, was it not Stevenson who was also playing him on? I thought Nelson was halfway up the pitch heading it away? Think I need to see it again, because I was too busy worrying about what Williams was up to when I watched the replays at the time